Junkhead Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Holsety's almost overkill. *almost*. Why? If +20 Spd, +10 Skill (including the fact the it's users have Critcal) and 30 Mt isn't overkill than nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 @Baldrick: I dunno, fighting? She has to get to promotion level, first up, which requires a certain degree of bulk. A good Fee can go whack shit at Lenster in C7 and clear the mage squad by the time Celice gets there, letting him not give a fuck about any of it. In C8 she can pull Dracoknights out of his way, which have a tendency to bog him down. In C9 there're all the Thracians EVER to distract, and you can RNG-proof the rush to Thracia by pulling Arion's squad north with Fee. In C10 a good Fee can clear a path to whatever the second-last castle is - or even suck up a shot from Ishtar to pull her out of the way. She can also go whip the Dark Mages rushing Tyrfing and pull whatsthatdickheadsname over a few squares to save one of Celice's precious walking turns. In the Final, she pulls the Freege squad out of position so Celice can just ignore them and shoot by for a quick capture. These are all things that Femina can't do because she's not bulky enough, and no other unit can do frankly because of mobility, as they all involve rushing over mountains/rivers to get ahead of Celice. These are all things Altenna can't do because frankly I hate her. And then, not to mention, she's still a flying C-Staves bot AND possibly your second-best fighter on the team. That said, obviously, some of them can be done by a Claude!Fee (C10, F come to mind) but at least the beautiful C9 juke is really hard without a combat Fee. And the counter-question for you, my friend: what exactly is Sety doing in the back there? The best I can come up with is whipping the Thracians in C9 (up to Arion) - but Fee can do this too. He's in position to surge ahead of Celice once the border to Ishtar drops in C10, but Fee can walk up there and trash shit just as well. He can just claim the lives of the ENTIRE Dozel squad, which Fee cannot claim, and then he's not going to catch up to Freege until your units have been tangling with Ishtar and Celice is already halfway to Velthomer. So he might be able to get credit for the Dark Knights, but who gives a fuck if Julia is practically invincible? Or if we're skipping Julia, Celice can do a really quick number on them before Sety's even there. Sety's problems, now, are helped by having Leen/Laylea or Leaf but you're definitely not guaranteed to have any of the three, and even if you do you still have to try particularly hard to get Sety up and doing things. Anyway, go play Gen 2. It's the fun part by a whole long far lot. @Soul: I say it's *almost* overkill because he can claim some things - like the Dozel squad - that other Seties or Hawk might not have the durability to withstand. RIGHT @Whitefang, Harpoon: In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Sal Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I finished "The most Generic draft" (Fe11) in 159 turns. I am writing my log on the computer, everything is right now just written down on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Finished Eli's random draft thingy in 188 turns because I derped and got myself stuck with Jerme's chapter, and probably some other things were pretty far from ideal too. Also a pretty awful random team. At least it had Harken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 @Sal: Done. @zahlman: I, ah, don't have it in the logs and I don't want to put it there without a point of clarification: why are there multiple names in front of each team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) The turncounts for each "group" of participants are averaged. It's kind of like a team draft, if you will. I cleared it in 145 turns, now that it's mentioned, IIRC. EDIT: Yep, it was 145. I don't know if you want to log it as individual participants, or wait till each "team" finishes though. Clipsey is almost done anyhow. Edited December 3, 2011 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Has Kopf even started btw? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) FE7 Team Lottery Draft I'm hosting (Sorry, I didn't think to post it here when it originally finished drafting. http://serenesforest...opic=29191&st=0 [spoiler=Teams]Refa/13th/Kngt_Of_Titania: Karel, Hector, Wil, Nino, Lyn, Rebecca, Heath Elieson/Daigoji Excellen: Guy, Kent, Dart, Raven, Dorcas, Matthew, Sain Baldrick/blues (AKA Marth): Hawkeye, Ninian/Nils, Fiora, Rath, Lucius, Priscilla, Erk Eclipse/Horace: Jaffar, Legault, Florina, Vaida, Oswin, Pent, Isadora. Kopfjager/Zhalman: Renault, Geitz/Wallace, Louise, Bartre, Lowen, Harken, Canas Taking each team and averaging their playthrough scores for a final score that represents their team. So far, Horace finished with 145, and zahlma has 188. Edited December 3, 2011 by Elieson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Taking each team and averaging their playthrough scores for a final score that represents their team. So far, Horace finished with 145, and Refa has 188. Er... I'm the one with 188, Refa's still about to start 26x. Also, Horace and I just finished reporting those results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Er... I'm the one with 188, Refa's still about to start 26x. Also, Horace and I just finished reporting those results. Mybad. Thanks for the correction. Doing all this on my phone gets challenging sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I told you I'm starting AFTER I finish one of the superdrafts I'm in. Gimme a couple days Zahl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) inb4psych Tag Team Two (29179) has finished drafting Shin: Aideen, Briggid, Midir, Dew, Azel, Cuan, *Integrity: Lana, Lester, Patty, Faval, Hawk, Roddelvan Darros: Fury, Ayra, Noish, Holyn, Ardan *Psych: Sety, Fee, Lakche, Skasaher, Shanan, Linda, Asaello, Johalva, Mana crashman: Ethlin, Lachesis, Lex, Beowulf *Rein: Leaf, Altenna, Nanna, Delmud,, Aless, Laylea, Radney, Johan, Dimna, Hannibal Baldrick:Tiltyu, Sylvia, Levin, Alec, Claude, Jamka *Domu: Arthur, Tinny, Corple, Leen, Janne, Femina, Tristan, Daisy, Edited December 4, 2011 by Skasaher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Double update. [FE6] Psychotic Yandere Teacher Cecilia's Experimental Draft of Chaotic Evil, er, Fun Completed in 258 turns [FE7] The First, Eli's Random-Selection Draft Thingy Completed in 195 turns Now, all I need is an ugly turncount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Finished FE11's Random Reclass Thingy Draft in 231 turns. . .hey, don't look at me like that. It was on H2, and I had a team of mages and non-tanky things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Okay. I have Elie's ...thing in the OP now. Somebody report back to me when the however-you're-calculating is done. @Darros: I was going to bitch at you because you FORGOT HALF MY TEAM, then I found out that you didn't - PSYCH FORGOT HALF MY TEAM. Jesus, he's bad at this. You did good, though. Thank you kindly. @Baldrick: There don't appear to BE team lists for that FE6 draft, so nope. Sorry bro. And Elie's apparently has to wait on getting tabled. aaaand @clipsety: Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) @Baldrick: There don't appear to BE team lists for that FE6 draft, so nope. Sorry bro. And Elie's apparently has to wait on getting tabled. The teams were: Dr. Will (i.e. Baldrick - took me a while to clue in on that one): Lott, Lugh, Astohl, Miredy, Igrene, Fa Naglfar: Marcus, Allen, Rutger, Saul, Echidna Second Pronoun: Lance, Bors, Ellen, Dorothy, Zealot, Treck, Noah, Wendy, Barth, Oujay, Fir, Klein, (Ray), Hugh, (Zeis), Niime, Juno Eclipse: Wolt, Dieck, Chad, Clarine, Geese, Wade, Merlinus Lorddomu: Cath, Douglas Ray and Zeis are in brackets because those characters are impossible to recruit per the rules and the way the drafting worked out. Read the thread for context on why the teams are so random and unfair. I also did it with no drafts just for fun: only Roy and Cecilia, plus every forced or recruitable character only for the chapters where they're forced or recruitable (i.e. only Roy and Cecilia can be fielded, but there are otherwise no restrictions). 528 turns. P.S. I noticed that your FE7 generic rules have different free characters (serra vs ninils) for normal vs hard mode. It might be worth adding a note that the 'units remaining' list needs to be edited accordingly. Edited December 4, 2011 by zahlman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Cheers on the teams. It's in the logs. And so's your clear, Baldrick. And the FE7 rules have a little line for that, thanks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Why does it change depending on difficulty, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Another Standard Boring FEDS Draft Thing #29201 3. Refa: Abel, Cord, Sedgar, Athena, Catria, Wrys, Rickard, Xane, Est 4. Elieson: Frey, Captain Gordin, Wolf, Navarre, Palla, Midia, Boah, Tomas, Astram 1. Skasaher: Cain, Merric, Roshea, Darros, Minerva, Vyland, Maria, Linde, Macellan 2. 13thshadow: Caeda, Bord, Draug, Julian, Horace, Etzel, Ymir, Radd, Jake 6. General Horace: Jagen, Hardin, Castor, Matthis, Lorenz, Bantu, Samson, Arran, Jeorge 5. Kopfjager: Ogma, Barst, Lena, Norne, Caesar, Roger, Elice, Dolph, Tiki Edited December 5, 2011 by Skasaher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Did I ever tell you I love you, Darros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Okay. I have Elie's ...thing in the OP now. Somebody report back to me when the however-you're-calculating is done. @Baldrick: There don't appear to BE team lists for that FE6 draft, so nope. Sorry bro. And Elie's apparently has to wait on getting tabled. Ill report with TCs as soon as team totals start coming up. And what do I need to get tabled for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 For team averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've finished Darros's Another Standard Boring draft thing in 133 turns, I think there's a duplicate name though, it's the one where I drafted Samson and Arran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Did I ever tell you I love you, Darros? No, you're too busy commenting on how I'm a moron 50% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Because you ARE a moron 50% of the time. :p @Horace: In. By the by, there's a Some standard etc, and an Another standard etc. But the right one is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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