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FE11+12 Yet Another Superdraft has finished drafting. This is the teams:

Teams:

1. General Horace: Cain, Jeorge, Samson, Luke, Mallesia, Frost, Horace, Bord, Minerva, Robert, Boah, Darros

2. Kopfjager: Bantu, Caeda, Maria, Castor, Yubello, Rody, Katarina, Navarre, Wrys, Sedgar, Dice, Norne

3. Eclipse: Roshea, Ogma, Tomas, Catria, Radd, Cecille, Caesar, Roger, Astram, Athena, Elice, Yumina

4. 13thShadow: Ymir, Barst, Sheema, Gordin, Lena, Sirius, Leiden, Merric, Ellerean, Matthis, Dolph, Arran

5. PKL: Lorenz, Abel, Est, Palla, Vyland, Ryan, Beck, Linde, Malice, Wolf, Belf, Warren

6. Elieson: Tiki, Draug, Cord, Michalis, Midia, Hardin, Wendell, Macellan, Samto, Frey, Jake, Etzel

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Caliban of Sycorax

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#29332, That Third First Gen Draft for FE4 has finished drafting~

Octavian: Sigurd, Diadora, Ethlin, Alec, Ayra, Fury, Azel

Ballin' Holyn: Sigurd, Diadora, Lex, Holyn, Claude, Midir, Fin

13thshadow: Sigurd, Diadora, Cuan, Noish, Sylvia, Briggid, Lachesis

Skasaher: Sigurd, Diadora, Beowulf, Aideen, Jamka, Levin, Dew

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A Wacky Archanea Superdraft has finished drafting.

1. Kngt_of_Titania: Archer/Sniper!MU, Dracoknight!Jagen, Paladin!Arran, Fighter/Berserker!Barst, Pirate/Warrior!Bord, Bantu, Mage/Sage!Merric, Cleric/Bishop!Lena, Falco!Katarina, Merc/Hero!Darros, Hunter/Horseman!Frey, Cav/SM!Matthis, Dark Mage/Sorcerer!Samto, Mrym/SM!Leiden, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck.

Unpromoted:			Promoted:

Female/Class A:			Female/Class A:
Archer:	MU			Sniper: MU
Cavalier: Matthis		Paladin: Arran
Pegasus Knight:			Dracoknight: Jagen
Mage: Merric			Sage: Merric
Cleric:	Lena			Bishop: Lena
Mrymidon: Leiden		Swordmaster: Matthis, Leiden
			Falco Knight: Katarina


Class B:			Female/Class B:
Fighter: Barst			Warrior: Bord
Pirate:	Bord			Berserker: Barst
Hunter: Frey			Horseman: Frey
Mercenary: Darros		Hero: Darros
Knight:				General: Ymir
Dark Mage:			Sorcerer: Beck

2. General_Horace: Mage/Bishop!MU, SM!Jagen, General!Arran,Sage!Boah, Cavalier/Paladin!Cain, Warrior!Samson, Pirate/Draco!Luke, Hunter/Horseman!Ryan, Archer/Sniper!Maria, Fighter/Berserker!Rody, DM/Sorc/Hero!Macellan, Peggy/Falco!Malice, Hero!Wolf, Draco!Sirius, Bishop!Frost, Warrior/Sorcerer!Ymir, Sniper!Beck.

Unpromoted:			Promoted:

Female/Class A:			Female/Class A:
Archer:	Maria			Sniper: Maria, Beck
Cavalier: Cain			Paladin: Cain 
Pegasus Knight: Malice		Dracoknight: Luke, Sirius
Mage: MU			Sage: Boah
Cleric:				Bishop: MU, Frost
Mrymidon:			Swordmaster: Jagen
			Falco Knight: Malice


Class B:			Female/Class B:
Fighter: Rody			Warrior: Samson, Ymir (FE11)
Pirate:	Luke			Berserker: Rody
Hunter:	Ryan			Horseman: Ryan
Mercenary:			Hero: Macellan (FE12), Wolf
Knight:				General: Arran
Dark Mage: Macellan (FE11)	Sorcerer: Macellan (FE11), Ymir (FE12)

3. Elieson: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Tiki, Cavalier/Draco!Abel, Sniper!Michalis, Peggy/Falco!Cecille, Hunter/Horseman!Castor, Sage!Arran, Cleric/Sage!Yubello, Merc/Hero!Dolph, Berserker!Horace, Archer/Bishop!Ellerean, Draco!Wendell, Fighter/Warrior!Dice, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck.

Unpromoted:			Promoted:

Female/Class A:			Female/Class A:
Archer:	Ellerean		Sniper: Michalis
Cavalier: Abel			Paladin: Jagen
Pegasus Knight:	Cecille		Dracoknight: Abel, Wendell
Mage: MU			Sage: Arran (FE11), Yubello
Cleric:	Yubello			Bishop: MU, Ellerean
Mrymidon:			Swordmaster: Arran (FE12)
			Falco Knight: Cecille


Class B:			Female/Class B:
Fighter: Dice			Warrior: Dice
Pirate:				Berserker: Horace
Hunter:	Castor			Horseman: Castor
Mercenary: Dolph		Hero: Dolph
Knight:				General: Ymir
Dark Mage:			Sorcerer: Beck

4. Kopfjager: Archer/Sniper!Mu, Bishop!Jagen, Draco!Arran, Sage!Jeorge, Peggy/Paladin!Caeda, Cleric/Bishop!Elice, Mrym/SM/Cav/Falco!Palla, Mage/Cleric/Sage!Linde, Peggy/Draco/Falco!Est, Mrym/Merc/SM/Horseman!Navarre, Hero!Astram, Cav/Pally!Hardin, Sniper!Sheema, Pirate/Berserker!Warren, Warrior!Robert, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck.

Unpromoted:				Promoted:

Female/Class A:
Archer: MU				Sniper: MU, Sheema
Cavalier: Palla (FE12), Hardin		Paladin: Caeda, Hardin
Pegasus Knight: Caeda, Est		Dracoknight: Arran, Est (FE11)
Mage: Linde (FE11)			Sage: Jeorge, Linde
Cleric:	Elice, Linde (FE12)		Bishop: Jagen, Elice
Mrymidon: Palla	(FE11), Navarre (FE11)	Swordmaster: Palla (FE11), Navarre (FE11)
				Falco Knight: Palla (FE12), Est (FE12)


Class B:				Female/Class B:
Fighter:				Warrior: Robert
Pirate: Warren				Berserker: Warren
Hunter:					Horseman: Navarre (FE12)
Mercenary: Navarre (FE12)		Hero: Astram
Knight:					General: Ymir
Dark Mage:				Sorcerer: Beck

5. Eclipse: Archer/Sniper!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Mage/Bishop!Tomas, Cavalier/Draco!Gordin, Curate/Sage!Wrys, Pirate/Berserker!Cord, Mrym/Peggy/Falco/SM!Catria, Archer/Sniper!Roshea, Hero!Sedgar, Cav/Pally!Radd, Mage/Sage/General!Vyland, Hunter/Warrior!Roger, Sorcerer!Etzel, Fighter/Draco!Belf, Hero!Ymir, Horseman!Beck.

Unpromoted:			Promoted:

Female/Class A:			Female/Class A:
Archer: MU, Roshea		Sniper: MU, Roshea (FE11)
Cavalier: Gordin, Radd		Paladin: Jagen, Radd
Pegasus Knight:	Catria (FE12)	Dracoknight: Gordin, Belf
Mage: Tomas, Vyland (FE11)	Sage: Wrys, Vyland (FE11)
Cleric:	Wrys			Bishop: Tomas
Mrymidon: Catria (FE11)		Swordmaster: Arran, Catria (FE11)
			Falco Knight: Catria (FE12)


Class B:			Female/Class B:
Fighter: Belf			Warrior: Roger
Pirate:	Cord			Berserker: Cord
Hunter:	Roger			Horseman: Roshea (FE12), Beck
Mercenary:			Hero: Sedgar, Ymir
Knight:				General: Vyland (FE12)
Dark Mage:			Sorcerer: Etzel

6. Vicious Sal: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, Sorcerer!Arran, Warrior!Lorenz, Knight/Cavalier/General/Draco!Draug, Merc/Hero/SM!Ogma, Cleric/Sage!Mallesia, Julian, Sniper!Jake, Peggy/Mrym/Pally/Falco!Athena, Fighter/Pirate/Berserker/Draco!Caesar, Bishop/SM!Minerva, Archer/Sage!Yumina, Cav/Falco!Norne, Draco/Sniper!Midia, Horseman/Sorcerer!Ymir, Warrior!Beck.

Unpromoted:			Promoted:

Female/Class A:			Female/Class A:
Archer:	Yumina			Sniper: Jake (FE12), Midia (FE12)
Cavalier: Draug	(FE12), Norne	Paladin: Jagen, Athena (FE11)
Pegasus Knight:	Athena (FE11)	Dracoknight: Draug (FE12), Caesar (FE12), Midia (FE11)
Mage: MU			Sage: Mallesia, Yumina
Cleric: Mallesia		Bishop: MU, Minerva (FE11)
Mrymidon: Athena (FE12)		Swordmaster: Ogma (FE12), Minerva (FE12)
			Falco Knight: Athena (FE12), Norne


Class B:			Female/Class B:
Fighter: Caesar (FE11)		Warrior: Lorenz, Beck
Pirate:	Caesar (FE12)		Berserker: Caesar (FE11)
Hunter:				Horseman: Ymir (FE11)
Mercenary: Ogma			Hero: Ogma (FE11)
Knight: Draug (FE11)		General: Draug (FE11)
Dark Mage:			Sorcerer: Arran, Ymir (FE12)

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Noticed, because I'm in a draft that C/P'ed from the OP, that FE8 has 29 draftable characters, one too many. Is Tethys supposed to be free? I've been seeing free Dancer units in a lot of other games...

EDIT: nvm, was told the answer on IRC, last unit leftover is free I guess...

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Wen Yang Newbie

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The info is part of the draft. It's a draft with LIMITED reclasses as a feature. You don't reclass people you draft outside of the class you chose for them. :P:

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I'm not used to hosting drafts myself, so I'm uncertain of where to find the topic number and such. Let me know how, and I'll do so in the future. Anyway, FE4 SOYO Draft XYZ is finished drafting.

Horace drafted by Shin - (Briggid, Patty, Faval) (Lachesis, Delmud, Nanna), Claude, Holyn, Johan, Femina, Linda, Levin, Shanan, Hawk

Second Pronoun drafted by Baldrick - (Ethlin, Leaf, Altenna) (Tiltyu, Arthur, Tinny), Ardan, Jamka, Dimna, Johalva, Cuan, Tristan, Dew, Laylea

Dokutayuu drafted by Second Pronoun - (Ayra, Lakche, Skasaher)(Sylvia, Leen, Corple) Hannibal, Beowulf, Midir, Amid, Daisy, Mana, Fin, Noish

Baldrick drafted by Horace - (Aideen, Lana, Lester) , (Fury, Fee, Sety) Asaello, Sharlow, Azel, Alec, Radney, Rodolban, Janne, Lex

Aless was, oddly enough, the undrafted one.

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Don't worry *too* hard about it, Horay. Unless you're giving me blatantly false information, it's usually enough to just alert and give me a link. Thanks, too.

@KJ: By that token, there's a whole lot of important shit I'm leaving out of each draft log. I'm just not worried about your silly reclassing. If somebody's really curious, the topic number's right there.

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Aless was, oddly enough, the undrafted one.

I actually quite like Aless, he's got great movement and the Mistletoe is pretty nasty. Hawk's nice, but he doesn't quite have the same shazam. He might have staves but you'll probably find a way to promote Linda by the time you need them.

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29317, Sacred Stones As-is Draft has finished drafting.

Silver Harpoon - Franz, Innes, Cormag, Lute, Natasha, Ross, Ewan

Racer - Vanessa, Duessel, Gilliam, Syrene, Rennac, Amelia, Marisa

Baldrick - Kyle, Dozla, Gerik, Artur, Joshua, L'Arachel, Neimi

Refa - Tana, Saleh, Garcia, Forde, Moulder, Colm, Knoll

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Could we, like, have a separate topic to discuss the art of modifying the rules? It seems like some people whose names I shall not mention (I am not excluding myself from this set, but in my defense I am very adventurous with rule changes and although I consider myself very good at that sort of thing, I have gotten in over my head somewhat both times and had to fix things) have some difficulty with doing this properly. Possible problems include but are not limited to:

* Changing absolutely anything once drafting has already started carries a serious risk of screwing over one or more people unfairly (e.g. they picked someone early for vital X utility, and then a character with X utility is made free; or a character is picked for good combat because a character with X utility is free, and then that gets revoked; or access to X utility is changed by changing restrictions on X-related items).

* It may become logically impossible for someone to draft their entire team. Depending on conditions, this may be deliberately planned for, but it would be an extremely bad idea in a SOYO with a non-recruitment turn penalty.

* Turn bonuses or penalties may be unbalanced or have bad loopholes, or special conditions may be overly strict (or even impossible to deal with except via massive RNG abuse).

* Going ahead with rules as stated, when potential players are raising objections, is an extremely bad idea. Talk it out before you start drafting.

* Changing the set of free characters may cause things to cease to be 'clean'; i.e. an odd number of characters may be left over. That isn't a huge problem, but it's one that was, to my understanding, at least considered in the development of all the standard rules.

* Allowing known OP characters to be drafted requires serious thought. This is sometimes done as an experimental "Does X need to be banned" draft. It is worth exploring options for compensating the X-less teams (one option is a choice between {X} or {A, B, C} free, with none of those available for drafting).

* Modifying turn penalties may require serious thought in order to have the intended effect. It is worth thinking through what a typical strategy looks like with vs. without the penalized action, how often the penalized action is invoked in such a strategy, and how many turns it typically saves.

* The set of free characters requires serious thought. It won't always be OP characters plus lords; it may be characters with unique utility or exceptional availability out of units with the same utility. I like to think I have a pretty good understanding of why you made it Ninils in normal mode for FE7 but Serra for hard mode; but I think people are better served by thinking about it than being fed an explanation. However, you are free to disagree and make your reasoning extremely explicit. ;) Anyway, depending on the nature of the draft, modifications may be necessary. Sometimes this is done for theme reasons (Erk, in my Serra SOYO) and sometimes for essential utility reasons (Matthew, in my Serra SOYO).

ETA: Derp, I forgot the most important one :facepalm:

* Writing unambiguous modifications to the rules is harder than you think. Seriously. Check for contradictions, loopholes and omitted cases. Consider whether you are really writing a new rule or an exception to an existing rule. Consider whether other rules need to be modified to accomodate a new rule. Spelling and grammar count, too.

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3. Zahlman. Franz, Tethys, Saleh,Joshua, Colm, Rennac , Neimi

1. me. Vanessa, Kyle, Lute, Gerik, Ross, Amelia, Marisa

4.Refa.Moulder, Cormag, Duessel, Giliam, Dozla, Knoll, L'Arachel

2. Zorbees. tana, Garcia, Artur, Forde, Syrene, Innes, Ewan

Done-fe8

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Remember this?

[FE7] The First, Eli's Random-Selection Draft Thingy

I did a great dishonor, and finished with 178 turns. I was teamed with Horace, which means our team average is 161.5 turns.

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Remember this?

[FE7] The First, Eli's Random-Selection Draft Thingy

I did a great dishonor, and finished with 178 turns. I was teamed with Horace, which means our team average is 161.5 turns.

Still a great job!

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I've finished Darros's Another Standard Boring draft thing in 133 turns,

133 for me too. Its tough to best the absolute minimum. Also Gaggles > Matthis

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Tellius Draft #3 finished drafting a while ago.

1. PKL - Jill, Nephenee, Tormod, Rolf, Lucia, Ena/ Nailah, Sigrun, Kyza, Caineghis, Pelleas

2. CR-S01 - Oscar, Ilyana, Mia, Brom, Ulki, Devdanved/ Aran, Tibarn, Vika, Leonardo, Geoffrey

3. Silver Harpoon- Boyd, Kieran, Astrid, Lethe, Stefan, Mist/ Edward, Naesala, Heather, Laura, Oliver

4. zorbess - Marcia, Mordecai, Soren, Janaff, Makalov, Tauroneo/ Nolan, Giffca, Skrimir, Renning, Gareth

5. Soul - Haar, Zihark, Elincia, Calill, Volke, Nasir/ Volug, Nealuchi, Sanaki, Lyre, Largo

6. Thisisjaye - Tanith, Gatrie, Shinon, Muarim, Ranulf, Rhys/ Titania, Meg, Fiona, Bastian, Kurthnaga

We first drafted from a list of units that can get transfers or appear in both games. Then, reversed order and picked from RD only units. Titania is free in PoR for everyone due to how neccesary she is but draftable in RD.

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