Wen Yang Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 FE11+12 Yet Another Superdraft has finished drafting. This is the teams: Teams: 1. General Horace: Cain, Jeorge, Samson, Luke, Mallesia, Frost, Horace, Bord, Minerva, Robert, Boah, Darros 2. Kopfjager: Bantu, Caeda, Maria, Castor, Yubello, Rody, Katarina, Navarre, Wrys, Sedgar, Dice, Norne 3. Eclipse: Roshea, Ogma, Tomas, Catria, Radd, Cecille, Caesar, Roger, Astram, Athena, Elice, Yumina 4. 13thShadow: Ymir, Barst, Sheema, Gordin, Lena, Sirius, Leiden, Merric, Ellerean, Matthis, Dolph, Arran 5. PKL: Lorenz, Abel, Est, Palla, Vyland, Ryan, Beck, Linde, Malice, Wolf, Belf, Warren 6. Elieson: Tiki, Draug, Cord, Michalis, Midia, Hardin, Wendell, Macellan, Samto, Frey, Jake, Etzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 kaydo, sir, it's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 #29332, That Third First Gen Draft for FE4 has finished drafting~ Octavian: Sigurd, Diadora, Ethlin, Alec, Ayra, Fury, Azel Ballin' Holyn: Sigurd, Diadora, Lex, Holyn, Claude, Midir, Fin 13thshadow: Sigurd, Diadora, Cuan, Noish, Sylvia, Briggid, Lachesis Skasaher: Sigurd, Diadora, Beowulf, Aideen, Jamka, Levin, Dew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A Wacky Archanea Superdraft has finished drafting. 1. Kngt_of_Titania: Archer/Sniper!MU, Dracoknight!Jagen, Paladin!Arran, Fighter/Berserker!Barst, Pirate/Warrior!Bord, Bantu, Mage/Sage!Merric, Cleric/Bishop!Lena, Falco!Katarina, Merc/Hero!Darros, Hunter/Horseman!Frey, Cav/SM!Matthis, Dark Mage/Sorcerer!Samto, Mrym/SM!Leiden, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: MU Sniper: MU Cavalier: Matthis Paladin: Arran Pegasus Knight: Dracoknight: Jagen Mage: Merric Sage: Merric Cleric: Lena Bishop: Lena Mrymidon: Leiden Swordmaster: Matthis, Leiden Falco Knight: Katarina Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Barst Warrior: Bord Pirate: Bord Berserker: Barst Hunter: Frey Horseman: Frey Mercenary: Darros Hero: Darros Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 2. General_Horace: Mage/Bishop!MU, SM!Jagen, General!Arran,Sage!Boah, Cavalier/Paladin!Cain, Warrior!Samson, Pirate/Draco!Luke, Hunter/Horseman!Ryan, Archer/Sniper!Maria, Fighter/Berserker!Rody, DM/Sorc/Hero!Macellan, Peggy/Falco!Malice, Hero!Wolf, Draco!Sirius, Bishop!Frost, Warrior/Sorcerer!Ymir, Sniper!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Maria Sniper: Maria, Beck Cavalier: Cain Paladin: Cain Pegasus Knight: Malice Dracoknight: Luke, Sirius Mage: MU Sage: Boah Cleric: Bishop: MU, Frost Mrymidon: Swordmaster: Jagen Falco Knight: Malice Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Rody Warrior: Samson, Ymir (FE11) Pirate: Luke Berserker: Rody Hunter: Ryan Horseman: Ryan Mercenary: Hero: Macellan (FE12), Wolf Knight: General: Arran Dark Mage: Macellan (FE11) Sorcerer: Macellan (FE11), Ymir (FE12) 3. Elieson: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Tiki, Cavalier/Draco!Abel, Sniper!Michalis, Peggy/Falco!Cecille, Hunter/Horseman!Castor, Sage!Arran, Cleric/Sage!Yubello, Merc/Hero!Dolph, Berserker!Horace, Archer/Bishop!Ellerean, Draco!Wendell, Fighter/Warrior!Dice, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Ellerean Sniper: Michalis Cavalier: Abel Paladin: Jagen Pegasus Knight: Cecille Dracoknight: Abel, Wendell Mage: MU Sage: Arran (FE11), Yubello Cleric: Yubello Bishop: MU, Ellerean Mrymidon: Swordmaster: Arran (FE12) Falco Knight: Cecille Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Dice Warrior: Dice Pirate: Berserker: Horace Hunter: Castor Horseman: Castor Mercenary: Dolph Hero: Dolph Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 4. Kopfjager: Archer/Sniper!Mu, Bishop!Jagen, Draco!Arran, Sage!Jeorge, Peggy/Paladin!Caeda, Cleric/Bishop!Elice, Mrym/SM/Cav/Falco!Palla, Mage/Cleric/Sage!Linde, Peggy/Draco/Falco!Est, Mrym/Merc/SM/Horseman!Navarre, Hero!Astram, Cav/Pally!Hardin, Sniper!Sheema, Pirate/Berserker!Warren, Warrior!Robert, General!Ymir, Sorcerer!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Archer: MU Sniper: MU, Sheema Cavalier: Palla (FE12), Hardin Paladin: Caeda, Hardin Pegasus Knight: Caeda, Est Dracoknight: Arran, Est (FE11) Mage: Linde (FE11) Sage: Jeorge, Linde Cleric: Elice, Linde (FE12) Bishop: Jagen, Elice Mrymidon: Palla (FE11), Navarre (FE11) Swordmaster: Palla (FE11), Navarre (FE11) Falco Knight: Palla (FE12), Est (FE12) Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Warrior: Robert Pirate: Warren Berserker: Warren Hunter: Horseman: Navarre (FE12) Mercenary: Navarre (FE12) Hero: Astram Knight: General: Ymir Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Beck 5. Eclipse: Archer/Sniper!MU, Paladin!Jagen, SM!Arran, Mage/Bishop!Tomas, Cavalier/Draco!Gordin, Curate/Sage!Wrys, Pirate/Berserker!Cord, Mrym/Peggy/Falco/SM!Catria, Archer/Sniper!Roshea, Hero!Sedgar, Cav/Pally!Radd, Mage/Sage/General!Vyland, Hunter/Warrior!Roger, Sorcerer!Etzel, Fighter/Draco!Belf, Hero!Ymir, Horseman!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: MU, Roshea Sniper: MU, Roshea (FE11) Cavalier: Gordin, Radd Paladin: Jagen, Radd Pegasus Knight: Catria (FE12) Dracoknight: Gordin, Belf Mage: Tomas, Vyland (FE11) Sage: Wrys, Vyland (FE11) Cleric: Wrys Bishop: Tomas Mrymidon: Catria (FE11) Swordmaster: Arran, Catria (FE11) Falco Knight: Catria (FE12) Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Belf Warrior: Roger Pirate: Cord Berserker: Cord Hunter: Roger Horseman: Roshea (FE12), Beck Mercenary: Hero: Sedgar, Ymir Knight: General: Vyland (FE12) Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Etzel 6. Vicious Sal: Mage/Bishop!MU, Paladin!Jagen, Sorcerer!Arran, Warrior!Lorenz, Knight/Cavalier/General/Draco!Draug, Merc/Hero/SM!Ogma, Cleric/Sage!Mallesia, Julian, Sniper!Jake, Peggy/Mrym/Pally/Falco!Athena, Fighter/Pirate/Berserker/Draco!Caesar, Bishop/SM!Minerva, Archer/Sage!Yumina, Cav/Falco!Norne, Draco/Sniper!Midia, Horseman/Sorcerer!Ymir, Warrior!Beck. Unpromoted: Promoted: Female/Class A: Female/Class A: Archer: Yumina Sniper: Jake (FE12), Midia (FE12) Cavalier: Draug (FE12), Norne Paladin: Jagen, Athena (FE11) Pegasus Knight: Athena (FE11) Dracoknight: Draug (FE12), Caesar (FE12), Midia (FE11) Mage: MU Sage: Mallesia, Yumina Cleric: Mallesia Bishop: MU, Minerva (FE11) Mrymidon: Athena (FE12) Swordmaster: Ogma (FE12), Minerva (FE12) Falco Knight: Athena (FE12), Norne Class B: Female/Class B: Fighter: Caesar (FE11) Warrior: Lorenz, Beck Pirate: Caesar (FE12) Berserker: Caesar (FE11) Hunter: Horseman: Ymir (FE11) Mercenary: Ogma Hero: Ogma (FE11) Knight: Draug (FE11) General: Draug (FE11) Dark Mage: Sorcerer: Arran, Ymir (FE12) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 @Octavian: Lovely, in. @KJ: WAY too much information, but heavily cropped and in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorbees Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Noticed, because I'm in a draft that C/P'ed from the OP, that FE8 has 29 draftable characters, one too many. Is Tethys supposed to be free? I've been seeing free Dancer units in a lot of other games... EDIT: nvm, was told the answer on IRC, last unit leftover is free I guess... Edited December 7, 2011 by zorbees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Yang Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The info is part of the draft. It's a draft with LIMITED reclasses as a feature. You don't reclass people you draft outside of the class you chose for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) I'm not used to hosting drafts myself, so I'm uncertain of where to find the topic number and such. Let me know how, and I'll do so in the future. Anyway, FE4 SOYO Draft XYZ is finished drafting. Horace drafted by Shin - (Briggid, Patty, Faval) (Lachesis, Delmud, Nanna), Claude, Holyn, Johan, Femina, Linda, Levin, Shanan, Hawk Second Pronoun drafted by Baldrick - (Ethlin, Leaf, Altenna) (Tiltyu, Arthur, Tinny), Ardan, Jamka, Dimna, Johalva, Cuan, Tristan, Dew, Laylea Dokutayuu drafted by Second Pronoun - (Ayra, Lakche, Skasaher)(Sylvia, Leen, Corple) Hannibal, Beowulf, Midir, Amid, Daisy, Mana, Fin, Noish Baldrick drafted by Horace - (Aideen, Lana, Lester) , (Fury, Fee, Sety) Asaello, Sharlow, Azel, Alec, Radney, Rodolban, Janne, Lex Aless was, oddly enough, the undrafted one. Edited December 7, 2011 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Don't worry *too* hard about it, Horay. Unless you're giving me blatantly false information, it's usually enough to just alert and give me a link. Thanks, too. @KJ: By that token, there's a whole lot of important shit I'm leaving out of each draft log. I'm just not worried about your silly reclassing. If somebody's really curious, the topic number's right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Aless was, oddly enough, the undrafted one. I actually quite like Aless, he's got great movement and the Mistletoe is pretty nasty. Hawk's nice, but he doesn't quite have the same shazam. He might have staves but you'll probably find a way to promote Linda by the time you need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 29317, Sacred Stones As-is Draft has finished drafting. Silver Harpoon - Franz, Innes, Cormag, Lute, Natasha, Ross, Ewan Racer - Vanessa, Duessel, Gilliam, Syrene, Rennac, Amelia, Marisa Baldrick - Kyle, Dozla, Gerik, Artur, Joshua, L'Arachel, Neimi Refa - Tana, Saleh, Garcia, Forde, Moulder, Colm, Knoll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Gorgeous, sir. Simply gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahlman Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Could we, like, have a separate topic to discuss the art of modifying the rules? It seems like some people whose names I shall not mention (I am not excluding myself from this set, but in my defense I am very adventurous with rule changes and although I consider myself very good at that sort of thing, I have gotten in over my head somewhat both times and had to fix things) have some difficulty with doing this properly. Possible problems include but are not limited to: * Changing absolutely anything once drafting has already started carries a serious risk of screwing over one or more people unfairly (e.g. they picked someone early for vital X utility, and then a character with X utility is made free; or a character is picked for good combat because a character with X utility is free, and then that gets revoked; or access to X utility is changed by changing restrictions on X-related items). * It may become logically impossible for someone to draft their entire team. Depending on conditions, this may be deliberately planned for, but it would be an extremely bad idea in a SOYO with a non-recruitment turn penalty. * Turn bonuses or penalties may be unbalanced or have bad loopholes, or special conditions may be overly strict (or even impossible to deal with except via massive RNG abuse). * Going ahead with rules as stated, when potential players are raising objections, is an extremely bad idea. Talk it out before you start drafting. * Changing the set of free characters may cause things to cease to be 'clean'; i.e. an odd number of characters may be left over. That isn't a huge problem, but it's one that was, to my understanding, at least considered in the development of all the standard rules. * Allowing known OP characters to be drafted requires serious thought. This is sometimes done as an experimental "Does X need to be banned" draft. It is worth exploring options for compensating the X-less teams (one option is a choice between {X} or {A, B, C} free, with none of those available for drafting). * Modifying turn penalties may require serious thought in order to have the intended effect. It is worth thinking through what a typical strategy looks like with vs. without the penalized action, how often the penalized action is invoked in such a strategy, and how many turns it typically saves. * The set of free characters requires serious thought. It won't always be OP characters plus lords; it may be characters with unique utility or exceptional availability out of units with the same utility. I like to think I have a pretty good understanding of why you made it Ninils in normal mode for FE7 but Serra for hard mode; but I think people are better served by thinking about it than being fed an explanation. However, you are free to disagree and make your reasoning extremely explicit. ;) Anyway, depending on the nature of the draft, modifications may be necessary. Sometimes this is done for theme reasons (Erk, in my Serra SOYO) and sometimes for essential utility reasons (Matthew, in my Serra SOYO). ETA: Derp, I forgot the most important one * Writing unambiguous modifications to the rules is harder than you think. Seriously. Check for contradictions, loopholes and omitted cases. Consider whether you are really writing a new rule or an exception to an existing rule. Consider whether other rules need to be modified to accomodate a new rule. Spelling and grammar count, too. Edited December 8, 2011 by zahlman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 3. Zahlman. Franz, Tethys, Saleh,Joshua, Colm, Rennac , Neimi 1. me. Vanessa, Kyle, Lute, Gerik, Ross, Amelia, Marisa 4.Refa.Moulder, Cormag, Duessel, Giliam, Dozla, Knoll, L'Arachel 2. Zorbees. tana, Garcia, Artur, Forde, Syrene, Innes, Ewan Done-fe8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Remember this? [FE7] The First, Eli's Random-Selection Draft Thingy I did a great dishonor, and finished with 178 turns. I was teamed with Horace, which means our team average is 161.5 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Check to Harpoon, since I'm a bit late on that one. Check on that, Eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Remember this? [FE7] The First, Eli's Random-Selection Draft Thingy I did a great dishonor, and finished with 178 turns. I was teamed with Horace, which means our team average is 161.5 turns. Still a great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I've finished Darros's Another Standard Boring draft thing in 133 turns, 133 for me too. Its tough to best the absolute minimum. Also Gaggles > Matthis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Horace has a 132 in the logs. Absolute minimum my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Tellius Draft #3 finished drafting a while ago. 1. PKL - Jill, Nephenee, Tormod, Rolf, Lucia, Ena/ Nailah, Sigrun, Kyza, Caineghis, Pelleas 2. CR-S01 - Oscar, Ilyana, Mia, Brom, Ulki, Devdanved/ Aran, Tibarn, Vika, Leonardo, Geoffrey 3. Silver Harpoon- Boyd, Kieran, Astrid, Lethe, Stefan, Mist/ Edward, Naesala, Heather, Laura, Oliver 4. zorbess - Marcia, Mordecai, Soren, Janaff, Makalov, Tauroneo/ Nolan, Giffca, Skrimir, Renning, Gareth 5. Soul - Haar, Zihark, Elincia, Calill, Volke, Nasir/ Volug, Nealuchi, Sanaki, Lyre, Largo 6. Thisisjaye - Tanith, Gatrie, Shinon, Muarim, Ranulf, Rhys/ Titania, Meg, Fiona, Bastian, Kurthnaga We first drafted from a list of units that can get transfers or appear in both games. Then, reversed order and picked from RD only units. Titania is free in PoR for everyone due to how neccesary she is but draftable in RD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Check, in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Horace has a 132 in the logs. Absolute minimum my ass. That was before the Chapter 19 throne rule was implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 We went over it in chat and figured that. BUT IT'S STILL < 133 SO NEH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darros Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Finished my half of Tag Team Two in 193 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted December 11, 2011 Author Share Posted December 11, 2011 Check, and got Crashman and Baldrick's clears in too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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