Might Gaine Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) I'm sorry, geez. I didn't see it in the first post and didn't feel like going through 119 pages looking for it. Anyway, here's the page: FE7 LHM+HNM Draft #35554 * Might Gaine Kempf Edited October 10, 2012 by Might Gaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I didn't even know Refa left. But Refa sucks. I can tell you're new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 all you old farts and yer oldfangled not!refa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyron Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 fe8 skirmish draft the 4th #35410 teams kalas vanessa, joshua, cormag, moulder, larachel, knoll, marisa hawk franz, gilliam, lute, neimi, natasha, duesell, syrene(rnged) me tana, ross, forde, ewan, colm, innes, rennac horace artur, garcia, kyle, amelia, gerik, saleh, dozla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Might Gaine Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 [FE7] LHM+HNM draft # 35554 Competitors: MJThom_2009 (Florina, Dorcas, Wil,Rath, Karel, Renault, Jaffar) Janissary (Sain, Heath, Serra, Pent, Guy, Louise, Vaida) * Might Gaine (Kent, Raven, Canas, Farina, Rebecca, Harken, Nino) The Soldier (Priscilla, Lowen, Erk, Hawkeye, Matthew, Bartre/Karla, Geitz) Kempf (Oswin, Fiora, Lucius, Isadora, Legault, Dart, Wallace) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) fe8 skirmish draft the 4th #35410 Kalas: Vanessa, Joshua, Cormag, Moulder, L'Arachel, Knoll, Marisa Hawk King: Franz, Gilliam, Lute, Neimi, Natasha, Duessel, Syrene *Cyron: Tana, Ross, Forde, Ewan, Colm, Innes, Rennac General Horace: Artur, Garcia, Kyle, Amelia, Gerik, Saleh, Dozla i think i fixed it Edited October 15, 2012 by General Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 #35034 Lyn Mode Draft the Something done in 52 turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Finished the FE7 RNG Style Draft #33229 in 163 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Finished FE7 Olympic Games #34290 in 138 turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Horace messed up the spelling of Duessel. Other than that it looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 ^ fixed that in my above post also finished ZM's FE7 Draft in uh, 138 turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinnidy Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Completed fe8 Skirmish #3 #35386 120 turns taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJThom_2009 Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Completed [FE7] LHM+HNM draft in 231 turns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Finished FE7 HNM Caps and Predictions Draft #34073 in 191 turns I actually finished this ages ago its just we had to wait for Sharpy and BBM to finish for the gimmick but guess what, they never did so I'm just reporting it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 FE6 - the one with roy #28625 - 325 turns clear. FE4 - Everybody hates Gen 1 #35076 - 99 turns clear. And reporting. FE4 Draft FVG #35653 Piss Sick Lawyer Lucina: Aideen, Claude, Lachesis, Alec, Beowulf, Ayra, Jamka feat. Darros: Lana, Lester, Delmud, Nanna, Hawk, Lakche, Skasaher, Johan, Asaello Minor Baldo: Sylvia, Cuan, Dew feat. Xinnidy: Leen, Corple, Ares, Mana, Shanan, Janne, Daisy, Amid, Hannibal Captain Jedi: Ethlin, Fin, Levin, Noish, Briggid feat. General Horace: Leaf, Altenna, Fin, Femina, Sharlow, Patty, Faval, Tristan, Johalva, Radney BigBangMeteor: Fury, Lex, Tiltyu, Midir, Azel, Holyn, feat. Refa: Fee, Sety, Laylea, Arthur, Tinny, Linda, Rodolban, Dimna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) son of a bitch We hit the character limit in Logs 1, lads. I'm going to experiment with the formatting a little bit rather than asking dear Fox to shoop me another post in for the time being, but that'll probably have to happen pretty shortly. If my checking is correct, though, the character limit is just north of 90,000. (incidentally: logs update, even if it's just in some openoffice docs in my docs folder) EDIT: this post is becoming an infodump for posterity Edited October 22, 2012 by Mr. Sparkles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 22, 2012 Author Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Moving it to the next post to update the thread for anybody who has already looked at the above post. [spoiler=this is what integrity brand troubleshooting looks like]90302 characters is kosher 91595 characters is not kosher 91273 characters is kosher ok previewing shits out errors too sweet 91468 characters is not kosher 91404 characters is kosher aha! characters is NOT the issue; LINES of TEXT is this actually poses some interesting ideas dammit that wasn't the cause okay it's something more complicated than just character limit unless it involves the way special characters are rendered in html? that would explain why an a works but a < breaks it BBCODE TAGS DO COUNT TOWARDS BREAKING IT modifying nothing but removing all bold and underline tags makes the post work and removes 2000 characters; let's add 2000 characters of other drafts to try to break it again adding two thousand characters after that (note: that is 5 drafts) took the total to 92038 and did in fact break the post again: special characters count nearly or precisely the same as regular ones? in any case, insufficient savings in just this the answer is it's basically raw characters and 90000 is the time to get worried ooh electric blue's on i love this song Alright, I'm looking at possible solutions now. Pursuing the following formatting ONLY FOR FE5 saves a grand total of 2000 characters in Post 2: EDIT: it was more like 1400 /EDIT (statistics: fe5 occupies one page out of 35 in DTElogs1.odt plus 26 pages in DTElogs2.odt and fe5 drafts are, by character-count, roughly average as far as drafts go) [spoiler=FE5, brought to you by Psych]FE5 Draft #24198 Lancelot in 197 turns; Soul in 244 turns; Psych; Silvercrow in 199 turns; Iris Fire Emblem 5 Draft #2 #26165 second pronoun; Soul; Kiriane; oval in 182 turns Thracia 776 Draft #26909 Sirius; Dio; Psych; Ike-Mike Draft 4 #28473 Integrity; oval; General Horace; Second Pronoun AKA Psych has nothing to do on a 5 day break #30109 Jave in 221 turns; The Creeper; Kopfjager; arachnidsGrip Draft V #30214 Second Pronoun; Refa; General Horace in 195 turns; Baldrick in 195 turns fe5-No Warp for Murderbridge #33695 General Horace; Jedisupersonic; Sharpy; Callum of Iris Anonymous! #34632 L1049; Cyron; Percilugh; General Callum (it's semicolons instead of commas for a reason, actually) Thoughts? Applying this format to the entire post would save, by my calculations, a fucking massive 50,000 characters - additionally, such a format would drop a given draft's character count from, say, 441 to 103 (no warp for murderbridge used as the example). As such, that space emptied would result in space for growth by a factor of double what we have in the post, rather than bandaging the problem and leaving us with the room to get a handful more drafts in before Fox has to be brought on-scene. So my questions: how (if at all) would you spruce up the formatting? Try to be as horizontal as possible in your suggestions: line breaks DO count for some value against the character limit. On the other hand, massive character savings is massive character savings, so if you have a nice idea that requires a little bit of verticality suggest it. I'm very open at the mo', and we do have some room to wiggle with characters if the teams get nuked. I don't really see another options besides nuking the teams or shooping in more posts ad infinitum atm. Edited October 22, 2012 by Mr. Sparkles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 This works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 So my questions: how (if at all) would you spruce up the formatting? Try to be as horizontal as possible in your suggestions: line breaks DO count for some value against the character limit. On the other hand, massive character savings is massive character savings, so if you have a nice idea that requires a little bit of verticality suggest it. I'm very open at the mo', and we do have some room to wiggle with characters if the teams get nuked. I don't really see another options besides nuking the teams or shooping in more posts ad infinitum atm. Fire Emblem fans: pursuing efficiency even in post formatting. (Sorry for not being helpful, but I had to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Come on, you twits. SB can't be literally the only person who has any input on this matter. Even posts like "yes integrity you have the perfect format there don't change a damn thing" are at least a little helpful. Edited October 24, 2012 by Mr. Sparkles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I like it. Sucks that we don't get to see the teams, but hey, saving characters in that post is good, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 You could also just file them by topic number, ignoring the titles I think that'd cut down a lot of characters in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 yes integrity you have the perfect format there don't change a damn thing I actually can't think of any better way to format it without taking up the same amount of lines as it did before, so I'm OK with the suggested format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 That works but it will kinda suck to lose teams and the * by the host. Eventually you will still run into the chacter limit though. Even though its not immediately necessary, you might want to look into getting seperate posts for each game. That would solve any problems pretty much forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 You could also just file them by topic number, ignoring the titles I think that'd cut down a lot of characters in itself. Cutting those, keeping the teams would shave something like eighty characters per draft. That's a bandaid fix, really. It would let me squirrel in roughly another two per draft section, I think. I'm at school and don't have access to DTElogs1.odt at the mo'. On the other hand, that plus a new post would give us a pretty big pool to work from. That works but it will kinda suck to lose teams and the * by the host. Eventually you will still run into the chacter limit though. Even though its not immediately necessary, you might want to look into getting seperate posts for each game. That would solve any problems pretty much forever. No shit I'm going to run into the character limit eventually. There's no way to avoid that short of making it a thing like linking to multiple Google Docs or not posting it. In the hypothetical scenario that Serenes Forest drafting goes on forever, we'll run out of space no matter how many (reasonable) posts I throw in here. That said, I do still have a handful of posts in a draft somewhere we could shoop in - or we could restart DTE with eight blank posts by me, since the original intent of DTE did not contain logs. Any case besides heavy format changes are going to result in some mod intervention, which is the bit I'm trying to avoid. That can be the consensus, though - keeping formatting as is. If we do that, I'll get multiple posts shooped in in one go or restart the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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