whase Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) I need to kill him to achieve Caineghis' special ending for my special endings PT. (http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=23180) so I stripped him of all his items and skills at 4-P, put him out on the battlefield and get him killed by 2 warriors. but then, instead of just dying, the guy retreats! does anyone know if this is enough to get the special ending? and will this also happen with Nailah? Edited January 6, 2011 by whase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) you might need to get him killed off in 4-E. A lot of the units that "retreat" before 4-E can actually die in 4-E. Not all of them, but many of them. Edited January 6, 2011 by Narga_Rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah, you might need to bring him to Endgame for him to die. Nailah too. In 4-E, anyone can die, including Titania and Soren. The only people that still retreat are Sothe (annoyingly enough), Sanaki, the Herons, and Ena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 ERL is right. Sothe not dying, and instead, retreating is annoying because I can't erase him off the map completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 ouch, I'm gonna feel that endgame. that's half the units I can pick that will be unusable or dead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ouch, I'm gonna feel that endgame. that's half the units I can pick that will be unusable or dead... Make ashera kill them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Make ashera kill them I can only use those units who have a special ending. so it doesn't matter when I kill them as long as I do kill them, I can't use them anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yeah, so what he's saying is, carry them to 4-E-5, and then have Ashera kill them. Kill the auras first, weaken Ashera, etc., then they die and Ike can get the finishing blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Yeah, so what he's saying is, carry them to 4-E-5, and then have Ashera kill them. Kill the auras first, weaken Ashera, etc., then they die and Ike can get the finishing blow. I can only use those units who have a special ending. so it doesn't matter when I kill them as long as I do kill them, I can't use them anyways. PT rule, not gonna break it for endgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I believe Ashera has a full-screen attack. Keep your laguz sacrifices untransformed, and make sure they're standing on the floor. Wait until they're dead to do your thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 PT rule, not gonna break it for endgame What? You're not being clear. From what I can tell, there's nothing stopping you from using your sacrifices from 4-E-1 to 4-E-4 and then killing them off in 4-E-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I think he's doing one of those weird playthrough type things. Like, swordmasters only. Laguz only. But in this case, it is "only use those with a special ending". Which means those units that need to die aren't allowed doing anything practical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 (edited) Well technically they would need to be used in one way or the other to get those special endings so i really would see no problem to him being able to use them. I suppose it depends on the way its seen though. Edited January 8, 2011 by SlayerX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiant Dragon Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Well technically they would need to be used in one way or the other to get those special endings so i really would see no problem to him being unable to use them. I suppose it depends on the way its seen though. Skrimir doesn't have a special ending, Caineghis does. However, his special ending requires Skrimir to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Yes but Skrimir dieing requires using Skrimir. So technically he can be used, think about it, skrimir is still going to hurt something by getting attacked, or he's going to attract attention (meatshielding) so he'll be used anyway. I'm just using technicalities here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 I think he's doing one of those weird playthrough type things. Like, swordmasters only. Laguz only. But in this case, it is "only use those with a special ending". Which means those units that need to die aren't allowed doing anything practical. that Yes but Skrimir dieing requires using Skrimir. So technically he can be used, think about it, skrimir is still going to hurt something by getting attacked, or he's going to attract attention (meatshielding) so he'll be used anyway. I'm just using technicalities here. true, but I just can't use him for any other purpose than having him die. I know, I might be making it too hard for myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narga_Rocks Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Well, technically they don't have to distract anything. Just don't deploy them in 4-E until 4-E-5. Then get Ashera's AoE's to kill them. You just have to keep the out of the action when Ashera does her single target attacks, since she'd probably choose them. Unfortunately, this probably requires rescuing them on those turns. Ashera AoE's in a predictable fashion, and untrained beorc + untransformed laguz should generally die in 2 smacks from her AoE. Just make sure that you kill the spirits each turn as they appear to prevent any of them from attacking the guys that aren't supposed to do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Just let him die to Ashera or one of those little balls. Nobody will even mind. It's a very easy outcome, considering Ashera's force wave attack won't 1HKO him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Would it be acceptable to use Skrimir if all he does is fail to deal damage to an enemy and then instantly die? Because you could probably suicide him into Sephiran or Dheginsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I managed to kill him. Unintentionally though. But I don't think it was endgame. I had him out killing dudes then they attacked him back and he turned back to his human self and I couldn't send help cause it would make them die along with him. He was surrounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 It had to be Endgame because he can't die anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whase Posted January 9, 2011 Author Share Posted January 9, 2011 It had to be Endgame because he can't die anywhere else. too bad, is this the same with Nailah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Rey León Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Yes. The Russian word for yes is "Da". Just putting this here so this doesn't count as a one-word post. Which is against the rules, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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