The Wandering Mercenary Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I don´t know if this has already been mentioned, but is it possible to defeat the Fire Dragon in the final chapter with an Assassin´s Strike? I´ve been trying for a while with Legault´s Killing Edge (24% crt) but with no luck. Anyone know the answer to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 IIRC you can't activate Silencer on the dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconVegeta1986 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Silencer can't activate against the dragon. However, with some planning and luck, Eliwood, Canas, and Athos can OHKO the dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The final bosses of FE7 and FE8 are immune to the Assassin's OHKO. Every other boss is fair game (although with a lower, half probability compared to regular foes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Mercenary Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 Silencer can't activate against the dragon. However, with some planning and luck, Eliwood, Canas, and Athos can OHKO the dragon. Hmmm...interesting. And how would one go about doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Not sure about Eliwood, but Canas and Athos with maxed Magic, Luna equipped and Filla's Might cast can OHKO the Fire Dragon with a critical hit. Aureola could also do some serious damage in the Japanese version thanks to the 3x effective coefficient. Edited August 11, 2011 by VincentASM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothache Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) For Canas and Athos, Luna is your tome of choice. 30 Mag + 10 (Filia's Might) x 3 (critical) = 120 Durandal has +5 Str, so Eliwoot has a potentially easier time too. 27 Str + 5 (durandal) + 17x2 (weapon mt, effective) - 20 Def = 46 dmg. Thor's Ire and some supports will be needed to give him a critical chance. Edited August 11, 2011 by Toothache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) A maxed out Lucius, Serra, or Renault will only do 105 damage in one hit with Filla's might and an Aureola crit. (I think, if the Dragon's resistance is 30 after its dragon breath is factored in). So yeah, in the Japanese version, they could do it easily. They would deal 150 damage with a crit, making Filla's might in this case pointless, so it would be better to use Thor's Ire. Edited August 11, 2011 by Whitefang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothache Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 25 Mag + 15x2 (weapon, effective) +10 (Filia's Might) + 5 (supports) - 30 Res = 40 x 3 = 120 on a crit. Just possible in fact. Lucius A Karel B Renault or something similar could give the crit bonus needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) I thought Canas maxed magic at 29? He needs to have like 22 as if he wants to ohko the dragon (and he needs to get one critical, along with Filla's Might). Edited August 11, 2011 by Mercenary Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconVegeta1986 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) It's also possible for Eliwood and Lyn to kill the dragon with a slim lance or Sol Katti, respectively. Without criticals. Edited August 11, 2011 by Scott Pilgrim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Nope, because if Eliwood doesnt have supports then he's doing 1 damage per hit lol... slim lance has 30 uses. Unless you give him four slim lances but I mean that's just kinda intentionally being really useless. With full support though he only needs 20 hits so I'll give you that. Edited August 11, 2011 by Mercenary Raven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Mercenary Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 I thought Canas maxed magic at 29? He needs to have like 22 as if he wants to ohko the dragon (and he needs to get one critical, along with Filla's Might). You are right. Canas does max his magic at 29. I brought Canas along and he has maxed his Magic and Skill, and he has a Luna, so his potential for Crt is pretty decent. He also has a B support with Bartre, whom I brought along (not sure if that gives Crt or not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just call me AL Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) It's also possible for Eliwood and Lyn to kill the dragon with a slim lance or Sol Katti, respectively. Without criticals. It's very inefficient to do so though. Lyn with Sol Katti and crits is already pushing it in that regard. The highest Crit she can get is 44 Crit, and that's assuming she has an A and a B with those that can help give her that much. (Notably 5/7 of her supports do so, but the best ones out of that are Florina and Hector. Rath or Wil could help too, but that's pushing it as far as supports go.) And even then, her level has to be inflated enough for such a feat that, on average, she'll be doing 5 Dmg a pop. (19 Dmg at most with Filla's Might and an A with Florina and a B with Hector/Rath. 20 Dmg with Filla's Might and an A and B with Florina/Wil.) Sol Katti without crits is already in "not happening" territory, and Eliwood with a Slim Lance is just flat out, purely ridiculous. Edited August 11, 2011 by Elmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replica Model Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 You can Silence Nergal, but you need to be lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Dragon =/= Nergal Hector with maxed out supports + Filla's might + Armads can one shot 'im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 It's very inefficient to do so though. Lyn with Sol Katti and crits is already pushing it in that regard. The highest Crit she can get is 44 Crit, and that's assuming she has an A and a B with those that can help give her that much. (Notably 5/7 of her supports do so, but the best ones out of that are Florina and Hector. Rath or Wil could help too, but that's pushing it as far as supports go.) And even then, her level has to be inflated enough for such a feat that, on average, she'll be doing 5 Dmg a pop. (19 Dmg at most with Filla's Might and an A with Florina and a B with Hector/Rath. 20 Dmg with Filla's Might and an A and B with Florina/Wil.) Sol Katti without crits is already in "not happening" territory, and Eliwood with a Slim Lance is just flat out, purely ridiculous. Thanks Elmer, nobody realized how bad an idea it was to kill the Dragon with a Slim Lance or Sol Katti. I appreciate you telling us otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRaisins Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 If you could get +8 Crit from support bonuses then it is also possible (though very unlikely) to get a critical hit with eclipse (Canas). This is assuming, however, that you have maxed out skill at 26. Still, it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) I would think that Eclipse would be coded to be incapable of criticals (it can't double, that's for certain, unless you were to hack it and give it the Brave effect). Edited August 19, 2011 by Anouleth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRaisins Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) I would think that Eclipse would be coded to be incapable of criticals (it can't double, that's for certain, unless you were to hack it and give it the Brave effect). it could be done in SS, so I assumed Eclipse could crit in this game as well. Then again, perhaps it cannot...I also attributed its inability to double due to its MASSIVE wt and the fact that dark magic users are slow and have little CON to begin with. I could use some confirmation on this. Anyone??? Edited August 19, 2011 by Fetchystick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Eclipse can only crit in FE8 if the opponent is under the effect of Stone. It cannot crit in FE7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginalRaisins Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 okay, so scratch the eclipse critical. But has anyone actually given a shman or druid or whatever tons of Con and Speed and tested if eclipse can double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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