Hazuki Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE13, I don't see what's the big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnd Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE13 is just so much easier. As long as IS doesn't spam remakes, I don't see the issue in numbering Shadow Dragon and Shin Monshou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE13. Quick, simple. It's impossible to get it confused, because after all, what other game could you call FE13? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE14, which will include "13" in its subtitle? >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 So it seems like most everyone wants to STFU people who don't like using generic numbers for titles and just use "FE13". Just observing. Hopefully the game is called something nice with a nice abbreviation for it. New name: FE13DS. c wut i did thar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) So it seems like most everyone wants to STFU people who don't like using generic numbers for titles and just use "FE13". Just observing. Hopefully the game is called something nice with a nice abbreviation for it. New name: FE13DS. c wut i did thar? Not a bad idea. It implies that it's the first 3DS FE game and the thirteenth one in the series. Also, the "3DS" implies the total amount of Fire Emblem games available (at least in Japan) on the DS's (DS/DSLite/DSi and 3DS). :D Edited September 14, 2011 by Phoenix Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE13 is just so much easier. As long as IS doesn't spam remakes, I don't see the issue in numbering Shadow Dragon and Shin Monshou. This is pretty much the best reason. Especially since I don't foresee anymore remakes coming soon that aren't just collection-ports. Though, Gaiden, that would be super nice of you IS, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Once upon a time, everyone happily numbered the games, the subtitles showed up occasionally. Then the DS remakes come out and some people decide they're going to be different. wat I'll always say FEnumber, if that's not good enough for you for some reason you can always wait for the full title to be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If Rowling decided to republish her first Harry Potter book with a little bit of extra content, words adjusted, and a few other allusions, that suddenly does not make it Harry Potter 8. This is the sticky-logic that's irking some people. It's not the convention itself--it's the out-right droll of the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I'm in complete agreement with Celice on this. A remake is a remake, not a new title. We had FEs 1-10, then we got FE:DS and FE3:DS, now we have FE11. If FEDS had been a new game just set in Akaenia, I'd have no problem with saying it was FE11, but its not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 FE13, people really need to stop excluding 11 and 12 from the numbering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 God damn I love you guys. Getting worked up over something so small. That said I'm gonna be referring to this FE as FE13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I feel compelled to ask: why can't we continue to number them as we always have? It's unambiguous, especially as opposed to calling this game FE11 or FE3DS. Most of the comparisons being drawn here don't work (Final Fantasy games are already numbered, the Harry Potter numbering is bound to chronological order). This game will be known as FE13 numerically, and you can call it what you like outside of that, just don't call it FE11. It's only going to confuse people and cause arguments, and the "let's leave the remakes out of the numbering system" idea wasn't accepted three years ago when it still could have been realistically implemented anyway, so can't we let it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Envoy of the Beginning Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 God damn I love you guys. Getting worked up over something so small. Fire Emblem fans are bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 The numbering system isn't the major problem from my perspective. It's that FE3DS (FE3 remake for the DS, which a small portion of people used) as an abbreviation as a whole has to be erased because FE3DS could now refer to "FE for the 3DS". Which it seems people don't mind doing because most people refer to it as "FE12" anyway. So the others who do call it FE3DS will just have to suffer/get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 idea wasn't accepted three years ago when it still could have been realistically implemented anyway, Virtually all the fans who "accepted" it didn't put thought into it. For them, the game might as well have been new because they never played the original. All the info would come up blue. If there was a larger familiarity with the original, it's likely more non-Japanese fans would have put a little, little, little more thought into how to reference the game. If anyone's really interested in how fans have numbered the series, you should check back on some Japanese message boards around the time the DS remake of the first game was revealed, up to its release, and a little after. You'll have less unawares-bias floating around the argument of "fans supported it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 The numbering is purely a Western convention. Japanese FE fans very rarely refer to the games by number, although I have seen one or two sites that do use numbering (Valhalla comes to mind, just hover over the game links) and they use the same system as us (most likely influenced by us). Japanese fans are lucky that they have official subtitles for every FE and can simply use the first two or so aymbols to refer to most games, eg. Seima [聖魔] for FE8, Shin Monshou [新紋章] for FE12. I think we'd look funny doing that though (imagine players referring to FE6 as "Seals" or FE7 as "Blazing"). I assume you, Celice, know that already, but I thought I'd mention it for those who don't ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) If somebody spoke of FE13, would anyone not know what that person was talking about? If not, then why shouldn't that person speak of FE13? Somebody mentioned using abbreviations of the subtitles, which I think would work too, on the condition that the Japanese subtitles be used for games not released outside of Japan: While there may be some confusion as to what FE:SoS might be, there is only one game that would be abbreviated FE:FnT. Edited September 15, 2011 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether7 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 The big issue to an observer is what does "FE3DS" refer to? If your going to use numbers for an abbreviation, use just numbers. FE12 could be called FE3.1 instead of FE3DS. Use the decimal to represent the remake number. This new game is going to get called FE3DS by some until a subtitle is announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Jam Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In the interest of avoiding ambiguity, it would be best not to use "FE3DS" at all. But if people insist on using it, a well-placed colon would make it much less ambiguous: FE3:DS vs. FE:3DS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Yeah, just don't use FE(something)DS. There's no reason to not call the DS games "FE11" and "FE12" unless you're being an anti-remake snob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Has anyone ever thought of using a space to distinguish between FE3 DS and FE 3DS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mai Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Has anyone ever thought of using a space to distinguish between FE3 DS and FE 3DS? Why bother with that when you can just call them FE12 and FE13? I mean, I don't really care what people call them, but I can't see any good reasons not to use numbers. And FE3 DS and FE 3DS are sort of easy to mix up, while FE12 and FE13 aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Has anyone ever thought of using a space to distinguish between FE3 DS and FE 3DS? No one likes spaces in acronyms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 How about FE3D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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