Jack of the Dead Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 yes Ok so in genesis it made the distinction that there was the light (day) and darkness (night) on the first day. therefore it set the tone for days to come. so we can be pretty sure it was 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peener weener Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Ok so in genesis it made the distinction that there was the light (day) and darkness (night) on the first day. therefore it set the tone for days to come. so we can be pretty sure it was 24 hours. but wasn't light created afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 he created the sun and moon and stars on the 4th day. light existed before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If God created man and woman in his image, then is God a hermaphrodite? I think, according to the Bible, that God made man in his image, then made women afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) he created the sun and moon and stars on the 4th day. light existed before then. How if the only source of light is well (AFAIK)... stars :/ Edited December 29, 2011 by Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 God's dick is the greatest light imaginable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 God's dick is the greatest light imaginable Imagination is the greatest thing in this world isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 well he created the heavens and the earth before they had a form, so why couldn't he make light without a light source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 well he created the heavens and the earth before they had a form, so why couldn't he make light without a light source? Why do you have to leave a light bulb on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 the point being God is not bound by the laws he made. he can make light then make a light source. he made the heavens and the earth, then he made the land a few days later. after day 6 the universal laws were in order. Creation, in the fact that it is supernatural, is the exception to many natural laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 the point being God is not bound by the laws he made. That just sounds like a lame excuse honestly, but what evs. he can make light then make a light source. he made the heavens and the earth, then he made the land a few days later. after day 6 the universal laws were in order. Creation, in the fact that it is supernatural, is the exception to many natural laws. What was the earth made out of if there wasn't land? Earth=land. It makes no sense, also making light suggest that there is a light source to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 umm, what part of "supernatural" means it is going to make natural logical sense? I actually means there are going to be things that we cannot understand. also, if you read later in the bible, God's glory shines like light. so there's the original light source, best I can put it out there for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) What was the earth made out of if there wasn't land? Earth=land. Actually, while the word Earth does refer to land, I believe that when we think of Earth as a planet we also include its atmosphere and oceans. Edited December 30, 2011 by Mr. Game and Watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 GOD DOESNT EXIST YOU FAGS STFU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 It almost seems to me that if God does exist, he seems to be trying to be sticking to the laws of physics, or at least nowadays, because everything that people are saying are of "God's doing" has never strayed from them. Maybe he wants to blend in ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 It almost seems to me that if God does exist, he seems to be trying to be sticking to the laws of physics, or at least nowadays, because everything that people are saying are of "God's doing" has never strayed from them. Maybe he wants to blend in ;) Don't give me that winking face :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 But God wanted to blend in with it!! D= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I could give you the full answer to this. but no one on this forum would actually listen anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 umm, what part of "supernatural" means it is going to make natural logical sense? I actually means there are going to be things that we cannot understand. also, if you read later in the bible, God's glory shines like light. so there's the original light source, best I can put it out there for ya. And i guess that ends the argument doesn't it? Its such a bad excuse "its supernatural doesn't have to make sense :P". Also, if god shines how come we can't see him? And why did it never said that god was the source of light and what is his need to make stars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freohr Datia Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Our sky would be prettier with stars!!! =D And it wouldn't make it easy to blend in if he's the only light we see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would like to hear your reasons for how the earth is what it is today. with all the proof how random evolution could produce a world that shows an obvious design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 I would like to hear your reasons for how the earth is what it is today. with all the proof how random evolution could produce a world that shows an obvious design. I'm not the person to ask this. While i have read about it and stuff i do not think myself fit yet to go on about explaining all of that. Also, even if the world is an obvious design I still find the god of the bible rather hard to believe in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 ok. why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanarkin Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 ok. why? The god of the bible for all is supposedly benevolent and fair. He is not however, how is it fair you get sent to eternal damnation because you didn't agree with his rules/never learned about him/denied his existence/believing in the wrong thing. Also, for a kind god he certainly is quite gory, to the point he wanted to make his son a sacrifice. There is also the fact that he makes humans suffer. Sure, one can say he is testing us, but hasn't he tested us (some more than others) enough already? There are also contradictions in the bible and the fact that it was written by humans means its not the word of god. Also, the bible (not just the bible god, but other as well, however, he is the one i know most about) god would imply that humans are sacred beings which lead to the ridiculous ideal that everything that is on the earth (and universe) is there for our taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack of the Dead Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 The god of the bible for all is supposedly benevolent and fair. He is not however, how is it fair you get sent to eternal damnation because you didn't agree with his rules/never learned about him/denied his existence/believing in the wrong thing. It's fair because you choose where your allegiances lie. you can choose the world or you can choose God and his laws. you pick your home, so to speak. as for not agreeing with his rules, just because you don't agree with a law doesn't mean you are exempt from it. try going 100mph in a 30mpn zone. You can say you didn't agree with the law, but you still have to deal with it. as for denying his existence, it's also evident that there is a design in the world. thats how people know there is a higher power. why do you think every civilization had a god or gods that they worshipped? they realized that someone had to make all this. and for those that never learned or believed in the wrong thing, that's where the burden falls upon believers to spread the word. the point being, A higher power is evident. its man's job to find out which one. Also, for a kind god he certainly is quite gory, to the point he wanted to make his son a sacrifice. the thing about Christ is that you have to understand his nature and why he was here in the first place. Christ was there at creation. the trinity existed before creation. Christ took a human form, went through everything we go through as humans, and was sacrificed because he was perfect. I'm sure you heard of the practice of sacrificing a lamb for sins. well, Christ took on the sins of the world, not just one person, and paid for it in blood. which fulfilled the need for payment of sins. Christ wasn't just the son of God, he was God. God made it so everyone in the world could be saved. all they had to do was choose. There is also the fact that he makes humans suffer. Sure, one can say he is testing us, but hasn't he tested us (some more than others) enough already? there is some truth to this. but there is a reason behind it. it makes us stronger. Christians, real Christians, actually get the worst of it. the bible says its gonna be hard. the rest of it is not testing. it is satan trying to pull people away. There are also contradictions in the bible and the fact that it was written by humans means its not the word of god. I hear about all these contradictions, but I haven't seen any that hold water. care to share a few? and the writing was inspired by God. man wrote it according to God's will. they used their own styles, their own metaphors, but in the end, it came from God. Also, the bible (not just the bible god, but other as well, however, he is the one i know most about) god would imply that humans are sacred beings which lead to the ridiculous ideal that everything that is on the earth (and universe) is there for our taking. the only thing I can get from this is that you are against using the resources on the earth. the Bible said man was put into the world to be a steward of the world, meaning he can do with it what he wants but he has to take care of it. not sure what the problem is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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