Emperor Hardin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) So what does everyone think of the guy with the most impractical armor since Jugdral's Barons? Do you think he'll be great unit like Gatrie and Oswin or a sub-par unit gimped by low movement and speed? What kind of alternate promotions could Cullum have access to, Great Knight, Baron, Halberdier? Finally do you think his personality will be interesting, I kinda of imagine he'll be similar to Roger or Arden as the unlucky guy nothing goes right for. Edited March 13, 2012 by Emperor Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) I hope he's a great unit ^^' I wonder if there will be a Meg/Wendy-esque knight in this game. Edited March 13, 2012 by Queen_Emelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I hope he's a great unit ^^' I wonder if there will be a Meg/Wendy-esque knight in this game. so you want another shitastic unit that gets owned by every enemy on thier joining map that has stupid stat growths that don't match thier class and that isn't even good looking enough for porn? its like gamefaqs all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Halberdier sounds unlikely. Great Knight could make sense, but 4 --> 7 Move is kind of a big jump, and it's not clear whether or not Great Knights are armored again. Great Knight Sol looks armored, but Frederick seems more lightly armored than I would expect for an armored unit, much lighter than Callum's armor and even lighter than Sol's. The one big thing I see pointing to it is that Cavalier --> Great Knight has a Speed loss due to Great Knights' lower Spd base. Presumably, that's to put their base closer to that of a slower class also promoting to them. All that in mind, though, I have to wonder about how Generals will be able to compete with Great Knights, especially with the likelihood that Knights will promote to them. GKs have +2 Move now and possibly console-style Canto, as well as three weapon types and 14 base Def, which appears to be the highest base. Great Shield isn't likely to cut it. Maybe Generals will get bows again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapdragon Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 HOLY CRAP IS THAT A FLOATATION DEVICE ....uh, I hadn't seen that character design until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Halberdier sounds unlikely. Great Knight could make sense, but 4 --> 7 Move is kind of a big jump, and it's not clear whether or not Great Knights are armored again. Great Knight Sol looks armored, but Frederick seems more lightly armored than I would expect for an armored unit, much lighter than Callum's armor and even lighter than Sol's. The one big thing I see pointing to it is that Cavalier --> Great Knight has a Speed loss due to Great Knights' lower Spd base. Presumably, that's to put their base closer to that of a slower class also promoting to them. All that in mind, though, I have to wonder about how Generals will be able to compete with Great Knights, especially with the likelihood that Knights will promote to them. GKs have +2 Move now and possibly console-style Canto, as well as three weapon types and 14 base Def, which appears to be the highest base. Great Shield isn't likely to cut it. Maybe Generals will get bows again? Frederick is pretty well armored, I could take tell early on he was a Great Knight from his Armor and a map sprite where he was wielding an axe. I see Halberdier working as a alternate promotion as in Gaiden Soldiers were unpromoted armor knights. The choice would be go with a defense, and a new weapon or speed and the impale skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Purple_Knight Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I hope all the armour knights are fe10 style deccent speed with great defense and offense . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Frederick is pretty well armored, I could take tell early on he was a Great Knight from his Armor and a map sprite where he was wielding an axe. I see Halberdier working as a alternate promotion as in Gaiden Soldiers were unpromoted armor knights. The choice would be go with a defense, and a new weapon or speed and the impale skill. Yeah, that does seem like the most logical possibility. He's at least as well armored as Duessel, but standards seem higher now. Halberdier could make sense as an alternate Soldier promotion, but not for a Knight. Also, Impale would need to be radically changed in order to matter. It might make more sense simply being replaced with a critical bonus like with Swordmasters, since that's about all it equates to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velth Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) i'm pretty sure callum will be able to use his jet pack to make up for his horrible move Yeah, that does seem like the most logical possibility. He's at least as well armored as Duessel, but standards seem higher now. Halberdier could make sense as an alternate Soldier promotion, but not for a Knight. Also, Impale would need to be radically changed in order to matter. It might make more sense simply being replaced with a critical bonus like with Swordmasters, since that's about all it equates to. halberdier could make sense for knights as it is a lighter version of generals with more speed /skill less str/def and lance locked so it makes sense a knight would want that but the most likely promotion tree for knights is the fe8 one so they can choose between move and/or better defensive/offensive caps i guess ( would be awesome if they allowed generals to use sword/lance/axe again) Edited March 13, 2012 by Velth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediabiwan Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I see great knight as a much more likely promotion option as it has already been done once and I'm hoping that the promotion options overlap quite a bit. Anyways, great knights seem to have just as much armor as halberdiers, if not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Halberdier could make sense as an alternate Soldier promotion, but not for a Knight. Also, Impale would need to be radically changed in order to matter. It might make more sense simply being replaced with a critical bonus like with Swordmasters, since that's about all it equates to. Do you mean General would make sense as a Soldier promotion? Anyway I think Armor Knight to Halberdier would work as an alternate promotion as if you take off the armor of an Armor Knight you basically have a Halberdier. In FE9, they both share Luna, so I think its obvious the two classes are related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yeah, that's what I mean. A Halberdier path, combined with an FE2-style armored path. Shedding armor, however, doesn't seem to fit. Would Knight --> Halberdier have a negative Def promotion gain, or would Halberdiers just already be that defensive? It just seems odd to me, either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Banzai Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Man. Dat armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiJ Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yeah, that's what I mean. A Halberdier path, combined with an FE2-style armored path. Shedding armor, however, doesn't seem to fit. Would Knight --> Halberdier have a negative Def promotion gain, or would Halberdiers just already be that defensive? It just seems odd to me, either way. Perhaps Halberdiers would just have a low Def cap and high Speed cap, while Generals would be opposite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Perhaps Halberdiers would just have a low Def cap and high Speed cap, while Generals would be opposite? If you're talking about it as a Soldier promotion, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiJ Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Naturally, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) If Knight -> Halberdier was an option I would think it would have a large Skill and Speed boost, and no Defense boost. But Knight -> Great Knight seems more likely. My hope is that they make Armour Knights 5 -> 6 move. Edited March 13, 2012 by Baldrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Hardin Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 If Knight -> Halberdier was an option I would think it would have a large Skill and Speed boost, and no Defense boost. But Knight -> Great Knight seems more likely. My hope is that they make Armour Knights 5 -> 6 move. I hope Great Knight isn't the alternate promotion for Armor Knight. Cavaliers already have that as an option so it'd end up as one of those promotion choices you never choose due to already having plenty of potential Great Knights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 So what does everyone think of the guy with the most impractical armor since Jugdral's Barons? I think the original General, with his 2-ton pauldrons, takes the win for most impractical armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Bastaki Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 or someone like Gilliam not......Meg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marth.25 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 i probably will ditch him at the first opportunity as knights movement sucks.however if awakening does the smart thing and boosts their speed then.... who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) I hope Great Knight isn't the alternate promotion for Armor Knight. Cavaliers already have that as an option so it'd end up as one of those promotion choices you never choose due to already having plenty of potential Great Knights. That's really just an issue of "if Armor Knights are bad then they'll be bad". Edited March 13, 2012 by Othin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rothene Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hopefully there'll be really small maps, defend chapters where they DON'T prevent you from using your armoured knights and late game defend chapters where you should feel happy actually spending the time to train a general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arvilino Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) I think with Dual Guard/Attack Cullum could be useful even with the low move. Since he doesn't have to be infront of a unit to protect them. Edited March 13, 2012 by arvilino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think with Dual Guard/Attack Cullum could be useful even with the low move. Since he doesn't have to be infront of a unit to protect them. It seems to have a chance element, so hopefully he'll have a way to get the chances high enough to be meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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