Thor Odinson Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) Yeah. From what I've seen the greater majority gave them the same raw score and then bias'd from there. I think there was like, one person that gave them a different raw, or something. I cbf to check though. Also Lalum is annoying which is why many of us gave her a negative bias. Edited April 25, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The only score I really disagree with there is Fir. Especially when looking at who is directly above her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The only score I really disagree with there is Fir. Especially when looking at who is directly above her. that is what one would call justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 ELPHIN AND LALUM TOTALLY DESERVE DIFFERENT TIERS. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST! I wouldn't take this as a serious tier rating, because of bias points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 that is what one would call justice Justice for what, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 ELPHIN AND LALUM TOTALLY DESERVE DIFFERENT TIERS. YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST! I wouldn't take this as a serious tier rating, because of bias points. Or I would just let the tier accomidate one more character, with that character being Lalum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 New Tier List? Top (9-10) Miledy Rutger Percival Elphin High (8) Lalum Marcus Lance Allen Thany Upper Mid (6-7) Dieck Tate Clarine Niime Zealot Shin Echidna Saul Ashtol Klein Chad Noah Bartre Mid (5) Lugh Ellen Igrene Zeiss Sue Cecilia Gonzales Lot Fir Lower Mid (3-4) Yodel Oujay Treck Dayan Hugh Ray Karel Geese Roy Merlinus Lilina Garret Juno Dorothy Fa Low (1.5-2) Douglas Ward Barth Flops (.5-1.49 Cath Bors Undeadly Duo (.49 and below) Sophia Wendigo You forgot Wolt, who should be in low tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Justice for what, though? Someone that is stupidly overhyped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Someone that is stupidly overhyped. If Fir was "stupidly overhyped" she'd be much higher. Personal bias says that she shouldn't be so low, but that's just my own opinion I've formed after using her in several Hard Mode runs. Don't take it to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) If Fir was "stupidly overhyped" she'd be much higher. Personal bias says that she shouldn't be so low, but that's just my own opinion I've formed after using her in several Hard Mode runs. Don't take it to heart. You also realize that people here a little more reasonable with votes. Not like in GFAQs, which fap to her all night long: [spoiler=From a certain rating topic]| E4. Rutger | Myrmidon | Weapon: Sword/Wo Dao | FE6 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Appearance: Red clothing, long brown hair, serious-looking | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Promotion: Swordmaster | With: Heroes Crest | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Bio: A Sacaen swordsman. He has a grudge against Bern. | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Rating: 7/10 | Fan Rating: 7.91/10 - 11 votes - 3 tens | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | In my latest playthrough, I used both Rutger and Fil. Though both struggled | | in strength (neither really struggled anywhere else), Rutger really sucked | | in that stat (12 Str at Lv 5 Promoted, where Fil has 17 at that level). | | I was looking to change his score, but, after this latest experience, no such| | doing. Fil still wins for me. | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Acquire: Chapter 4 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | A few turns after Clarine escapes Laus, Rutger will come out with some | | reinforcements and head your way as an enemy. By now, you should have | | recruited Clarine, have her talk to Rutger to get him to join. | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| ******************************************************************************** |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | E5. Fil | Myrmidon | Weapon: Sword/Wo Dao | FE6 | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Appearance: Teal/white clothing, gray ponytail hair. | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Promotion: Swordmaster | With: Heroes Crest | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Bio: The daughter of Karla and Bartre, niece of Karel. After her mother | | dies, Fil decides to go on her own to train, and eventually gets help from | | the Ilian mercenary Noah. | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Rating: 10/10 | Fan Rating: 9.20/10 - 10 votes - 4 tens | |------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Likewise, Fil was my most impressive sword unit (well, Oujay was good | | competition), and I see no reason to lower her score any. For the record, | | when I beat the game, Fil has 20 Str at level 11. [spoiler=Here's another one!]28. Fir ƒtƒBƒ‹ Joins At: Chapter 9: Speak with Noah Class: Myrmidom >> Swordmaster Usable Weapons Before Promotion: Sword After Promotion: Sword Initial Statistics (Lv 1) HP: 19 Def: 3 Str: 6 MDf: 1 Skl: 9 Mov: 5 Spd: 10 Con: 5 Luc: 3 Rsc: 4 Promotion Stat Additions HP: +4 Def: +3 Str: +3 MDf: +2 Skl: +2 Mov: +1 Spd: +2 Con: +1 Luc: +0 Rsc: +1 Stat Growth Rate HP: A Luc: A Str: C Def: D Skl: B MDf: D Spd: B Stat Expectations (Swordmaster Lv 20) HP: 51 Def: 10 Str: 19 MDf: 12 Skl: 29 Luc: 22 Spd: 30 Supporting Characters Noah, Rutgar, Bartre, Karel, Shin Comments 9/10 High Luck gives her greater evasion rates, making her more effective than Rutgar. Her lack of Strength can be compensated with a good support. Her critical hit rate will go crazy after promotion, allowing her kill just about anything in one turn. She could easily take out her own father ;) Fir's stats will start out higher in Hard Mode. [spoiler=AND YET ANOTHER ONE!]Fir: The Lakche of the game! Fil is a solid unit with insane skill, speed, and luck! Her power is okay. To make her even more efficent, she starts off with a katana, only used by Myrmidons which gives them a high CRT bonus! So recruit this myrmidon and you won't be dissappointed. Eaichu250's comments: Fil's a great character, she gets really high stats, and she's practically invincible when levelled up, when promoted, she critcals like crazy, and will be one of your best characters. Class: Myrmidon Promotion: Sword Master Usefulness: 10/10 E250 Usefulness: 9/10 Recruiting: Appears in Chapter 9 as an enemy, recruit with Noa. Edited April 26, 2012 by Colonel M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 I love the people calling her Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 FIL COLLINS, DEFENDER OF SHITTY SONGS AND SHITTY STATS female myrmidon hype will never die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I forgot this one, though it rates Fir pretty fairly. But Boris man. He fucking loves Boris so much he rates him above Percival and Miledy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hey now, they're pretty similar, except the other two move twice as far, but Bors has twice as much availability, so he actually moves twice as much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'm quite relieved this place is nothing like GameFAQs. Those examples are ehh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Not as bad as: *!Edward Edward has great strength, speed, and skill growth, with mediocre defense and res. He grows into the best swordmaster in the game, so level him up as much as Jill and he'll be more or less ready for the final chapter. Keep in mind that the * means he's the best trueblade and the ! means he's an exceptional unit for endgame. This is from the FE10 walkthrough on... Serenes Forest! What a bunch of noobs, the whole lot of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) Dig up mjemerzian's review on him. I'm serious. Edward Edward has great strength, speed, and skill growth, with mediocre defense and res. Although he's difficult to train, he turns out to be a good unit by the end of the game. If you don't feel up to the difficulty of training him, Zihark is a good alternative. Calling him worthless because a player is too incompetent to level him is simply an indictment of their lack of skill at the game. And yeah, who did write that guide on Serenes? Edited April 26, 2012 by Colonel M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 You also realize that people here a little more reasonable with votes. Not like in GFAQs, which fap to her all night long January 2009. September 2002. (I didn't even know what FE was when this guide was written) June 2004. FIL COLLINS, DEFENDER OF SHITTY SONGS AND SHITTY STATS female myrmidon hype will never die And we're now in 2012. I'm sure we all had different opinions on units back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel M Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 All I know is I hated Fir before it was cool. *puts on shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 It's one thing to rate Fir highly, but when every single FAQ grants the likes of Wendy and Sophia over the top accolades while claiming Zealot and Marcus are rubbish... At least everybody agrees Miledy is a great unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I don't play for turns Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 What is the cut-off point for OK, or that sort of thing? Is it 5 or 5.5? (If it's 5, more characters are usable than not :P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Dig up mjemerzian's review on him. I'm serious. Edward Edward has great strength, speed, and skill growth, with mediocre defense and res. Although he's difficult to train, he turns out to be a good unit by the end of the game. If you don't feel up to the difficulty of training him, Zihark is a good alternative. Calling him worthless because a player is too incompetent to level him is simply an indictment of their lack of skill at the game. And yeah, who did write that guide on Serenes? mj. It was in the top-left corner. I'm no expert on FE10, but I'm pretty sure saying Jill > Haar is kind of noteworthy as well. You know, given that some people are saying Haar is too good to draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeCrush980 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 What is the cut-off point for OK, or that sort of thing? Is it 5 or 5.5? (If it's 5, more characters are usable than not :P) Fir, Lot, and Gonzales are all usable IMO, so 5 sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Princess Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Is Miredy really the best unit in the game? I like Thany better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 (edited) Miledy is a flying tank with good combat at base (may need a wing but the cost of a wing in return for pretty much god is negligible) and having growths at all are just icing on the cake, let alone quite excellent ones, especially for FE6, so pretty much yeah. Edited May 27, 2012 by Luminescent Blade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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