Leif Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Well, I decided to try Hard 5 (a blind run-through) for Shadow Dragon and here are my amusing results for the first two chapters: --- Chapter 1: Perma Deaths: 0; Turns: 85; Restarts: 1 Chapter 2: Perma Deaths: 0; Turns: 120; Restarts: 3 --- I know, I know! This is epic fail. But, this mode is basically impossible. The Pirate bosses are so tough to take down since they can either OHKO or 2HKO all my units. Trying to take down Gazzak and Gomer is what racked the turn count up. I made it to each boss in 25~30 turns. When I faced Gomer, I had to literally wait for his Hand Axe to break, since I couldn't have Wrys heal units without him getting in Hand Axe range. Plus he was over 11 speed! Man what a pain in the arse. I am on Chapter 3. Wrys has 1 use left of his heal staff since I played defensively for the last two chapters (I had my units inch their way towards the bosses in a tight squad). Chapter 3 looks less daunting than the other chapters since there are not as many choke points, but recruiting Navarre will be a challenge since Caeda can be OHKO'ed by most of the fighters. I mainly play Fire Emblem for enjoyment, not for extremely difficult challenges, although I will be attempting a Hard Mode run through of FE13 when it comes to the US with the Sorcerer!MU and Krom doubling action with Resire tanking combo. Edited June 21, 2012 by Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You ARE using Jagen, right? Because his low growths don't matter a whit; lategame is easier, anyway. That extends to using his Silver Lance on early bosses; there really is no better time, weapon triangle be damned. The Ballisticians get better the harder the mode you're on. Thus spake Eclipse, and the logic holds true from my own experiences as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I don't think it's possible to beat chapter 1 without him, unless Gordin/Draug/Shiida all hit several times in a row with Steel Bow/Javelins at ~50 hit, or he misses Marth/Cain/Abel several times in a row at ~60 hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Gazzak is a crapshoot because the fastest way is to pray that Jagen doesn't miss and get killed, but Gomer is easy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) All the bosses are ~kinda a crapshoot even with Jagen because he can always get crit and die. Jagen probably has an overall 10% chance of death on any given earlygame chapter just because of that. It's not so bad, because you can map save before you start working on the boss, but still annoying. and also his ~60 hit rate with silver lance seriously jagen y couldn't you be SM Edited June 21, 2012 by Anouleth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You took 100 turns to kill a boss......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You took 100 turns to kill a boss......? Fort healing is hells slow, and Hand Axes have 30 uses too... so I can see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You should use a save point right before attempting the boss and blitz him with 3 units at once. For chapter 3 you can use Killing Edge Ogma, Devil axe Barst and Silver Lance Jagen. Might take some resets at the save point but you should be able to 1-round the sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 People have beaten FE games in less time than your Chapter 2 clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 People have beaten FE games in less time than your Chapter 2 clear. I know right? Haha, I was holding off on using Jagen since he could be 2HKO'ed by all the enemies I've faced so far. He was the reason why I had to reset so many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 jeigan has the best durability on your team in the first few chapters and he's certainly not 2HKO'd in chapter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Horace, there is a boss, who eats Iron Bones for dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) whatever he said every enemy you know what i meant and the boss is probably unbeatable without Jeigan anyway until you break his weapon or something ridiculous Edited June 22, 2012 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 ...Congratulations? I guess. Good luck when you reach chapter 13, my vote for "Hardest FE11 Chapter on H5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Sage Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 ...Congratulations? I guess. Good luck when you reach chapter 13, my vote for "Hardest FE11 Chapter on H5" Your opinion is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 (edited) I hate fighting Gomer... I got Lucky with him because Ogma got a Critical Hit! (I made sure Gomer got 11 Speed so Jagen can't be doubled) Recruiting Navarre isn't that Bad. For me, Sheeda usually recruits him on a mountain tile and i have Navarre Hold the Chokepoint for that turn! Edited June 23, 2012 by Folgore Purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 I took 26 turns on chapter 1 because Gordin just wouldn't stop critting everything in the face, but my chapter 2 turn count looked very similar. The chapter 2 and 3 bosses are just incredibly cheap on H5, there's no really reliable way to deal with them. You need luck, as otherwise you'll be forced to take forever. ...unless you want to have half your army suicide on the boss, I guess. Good luck when you reach chapter 13, my vote for "Hardest FE11 Chapter on H5" Have you ever tried to beat the final chapter on H5 without using cheap tricks like warp? Especially while doing a no death run? You know things have gone to hell when Sedgar, the god of Shadow Dragon, gets roflstomped by random enemies. With 60 HP and capped Def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 ...Congratulations? I guess. Good luck when you reach chapter 13, my vote for "Hardest FE11 Chapter on H5" You mean the annoying Ballistea chapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 You mean the annoying Ballistea chapter? That's the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 I find the ballistae chapter more annoying than hard. You can trivialize it with generic meatshields pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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