Fruity Insanity Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Seeing how Americans tend to push the Japanese ratings up a few notches, does anyone thing they'll do that for Awakening? For example, CERO rated Super Smash Bros. Brawl "A" (for all). ESRB, on the other hand, rated it "T." Another example is Metroid Prime Hunters. CERO - A; ESRB - T. Even Fire Emblem... Radiant Dawn: CERO - A; ESRB - Everyone 10+. Shadow Dragon was also rated like Radiant Dawn. "God Hand, Metal Gear Solid: Digital Graphic Novel, Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3, Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 and Samurai Shodown: Sen were all rated B by the CERO, which would technically give them E10+ or T (13+) ratings in North America. However, they were all rated M (17+ - CERO D rating) by the ESRB, a difference of 2-3 grades." -- Wikipedia "Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne, which was rated A (all ages) by CERO but M (17+) by the ESRB, a difference of 4 grades." -- Also from Wikipedia Or you could just look at it yourself here... Anyway, considering ESRB's habit of pushing the rating higher than it should be (in my opinion), what would stop them from doing that for Fire Emblem: Awakening? Does anyone else think that ESRB may rate the game "M"? Or is it just me... You know, since there are a few (and only a few!) inappropriate scenes in the game and all... They seem to be pretty touchy when it comes to that kind of stuff... Thoughts, comments, or opinions anyone? Not that it particularly matters... I would still buy it whether they rated it "M" or not... I'm just curious... Edited November 6, 2012 by Shuuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I think saying that the ESRB and their cousins are always pushes the rating up, is doing potential discussions a disservice. You can't just translate a B rating by Zero into a Teen rating. It's more difficult then that. It's just, that each country has different standards about what it sees acceptable to show it's children. For example, German censors are pretty infamous in regards to violence. But they don't care at all about certain other stuff that American moral guardians are obsessed about. Like smoking and alcohol. They don't care about them. At all. There are tons of games with massive rating differences between the two countries in both directions. It's all just a matter of different standards and even different approaches towards the subject at hand. And to stick with the Japanese CERO and the American ESRB, there are definitely also games that CERO rated higher. Like I recall Dead or Alive: Dimensions having a C rating (15+) while ESRB merely gave it a T(13+) rating, for example. Now with that out of the way, I don't see why Awakening shouldn't get it's usual E10+ or T rating. And while we are on it, I predict a Pegi 7+ and a USK6 in accordance with the pattern so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 ...haha. I see. I'm doing a "disservice"? Well, I'm sorry to all of you who think that way. Really, I had no intentions on doing discussions the said "disservice." :) No harm done, though, by asking a question... I was just curious. And I got an answer all right... Anyway, you're right. Each country does have its standards... But even with that taken into account, why are those "standards" so different from each other...? So... an E10+ or T, huh? I'm cool with that. Like I said, I was just curious. I wasn't trying to do a disservice. :) Yeah... you're right... you're right... I'll keep that in mind, so as to not offend anyone later... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilere Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Anyway, you're right. Each country does have its standards... But even with that taken into account, why are those "standards" so different from each other...? Each country, due to isolation, imperialism, religion, culture, scientific discoveries, etc, etc changes and grows. It's only natural that some things are considered more vile or taboo than others. Values and how children are raised are also very different. This is a really lofty question, and anyone could spend decades discussing it. I imagine it will probably be T, since there's no blood, drugs, or nudity. (Partial nudity? Do bikini's fall into that tag?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) But really... It looks like her bikini is FALLING OFF!!! She's just holding on to it... And I thought that maybe after GLOBALIZATION, standards would be more like global standards... But who am I to say anything...? I'm no specialist in the field... But whatever, it is a lofty question... A question far beyond my scope... And there's more than just that picture... as everybody here probably knows... partial nudity might still be considered offensive by a lot of people... (Not me, though! :P) Edited November 6, 2012 by Shuuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) You know there's an edit button, right? I expect a T, myself. I don't really see the bikini as an issue, but I generally don't see that in games in the first place so IDK how ESRB rates that stuff. I don't think partial nudity will get anyone anywhere near M. Even then, Tiamo is still wearing a bathing suit, like dark mages. Not to mention that's DLC. Is DLC separate in rating or lumped in with the game rating? Edited November 6, 2012 by L95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onestep Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If Disgaea's Etna and her bra and miniskirt of power can get by with a T rating in NA and a 12+ rating in the EU, then I don't think that there's too much to be worried about. But I don't think it really matters. Pretty much everyone here is mature enough to get a copy, even if by some chance it's rated M. So it's not too important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would say it is important. The lower the rating, the bigger the potential market. So it might have some effect on the series international future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike-Mike Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 And I thought that maybe after GLOBALIZATION, standards would be more like global standards... Yeah, global trade standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would say it is important. The lower the rating, the bigger the potential market. So it might have some effect on the series international future. If the game ends up getting an M, somehow, they'd just censor the offending material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onestep Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would say it is important. The lower the rating, the bigger the potential market. So it might have some effect on the series international future. Well, I suppose that's fair enough. As I said though, it's highly unlikely that we'll see anything higher than a T rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Tactician Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 After looking up the ESRB on Wikipedia, I'm confident that Awakening will either receive a E10+ or T rating. Possible descriptors on the final North American Box might be: Fantasy Violence (for the combat), Language (the enemy Sumia kills in the English trailer says "Damn!" so it depends if all human foes swear like that when they are killed by the player's army) and Comic Mischief (Chrom and Female Avatar's B and A supports, Female Avatar's C support with Gaia and Female Avatar's C support with Sairi.) Those are my guesses for the NA rating of Awakening from the ESRB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Now with that out of the way, I don't see why Awakening shouldn't get it's usual E10+ or T rating. And while we are on it, I predict a Pegi 7+ and a USK6 in accordance with the pattern so far. Honestly, a PEGI 12+ is more likely from what I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I think it will be rated T at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckingbird Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 the enemy Sumia kills in the English trailer says "Damn!" so it depends if all human foes swear like that I did not know that was a swear word xD. Seriously though, I doubt it'd get higher then T or 12+ (E.U.). If it gets higher then a 12 then it'd be in the same category as DOA: Dimensions, which considering there's no perverted cameras angles, it'd be hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It will definitely be AO thanks to Richt, Donny, Nono, and Nn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 That one random Knight isn't anything special as to say anything other random enemies wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Tactician Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I consider "Damn" a swear word, idk if it really is that bad of a swear word though, so I didn't mean to cause any confusion there. I doubt having Richt, Donnel (Donny), Nono and Nn as marriage options constitutes an AO rating. Besides according to the Wikipedia article on the ESRB, "Nintendo has a policy against allowing AO rated games to be licensed on their consoles", so do Sony and Microsoft and those ratings are restricted to PC and MAC games and sold in limited fashion so Fire Emblem Awakening WILL NOT have an AO rating or Gamestop and other major retailers will not sell it in stores or on their websites. It's either going to be rated E10+ or T. I'm so slow in picking up on jokes, and if those four were taken out, it would detract from the "Avatar can marry anyone" feature. Edited November 6, 2012 by Ace Tactician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I doubt anyone seriously thinks this is gonna get AO. It's a joke :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strunk Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I doubt anyone seriously thinks this is gonna get AO. It's a joke :p There's always someone that will believe something, no matter how unlikely it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashGordon94 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I doubt anyone seriously thinks this is gonna get AO. It's a joke :p And a bad one at that... On another note, looking through the first post again, CERO has some seriously fucked up ratings so it's so wonder ESRB and PEGI corrected them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It will definitely be AO thanks to Richt, Donny, Nono, and Nn. Don't forget Liz, who is about the same age as Donny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) On another note, looking through the first post again, CERO has some seriously fucked up ratings so it's so wonder ESRB and PEGI corrected them! What do you mean in particular? The ratings seem all pretty reasonable to me. Different cultures, different values. Simple as that. Edited November 7, 2012 by BrightBow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimgrim Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm not woried that they will rate this game M at all as it it will almost guaranteed get a E10+ or T rating. I'm more worried about how NoA will change the difficulty modes. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightBow Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I can't really imagine that. Not that I will ever understand, why they messed with the PoR difficulties and followed it up wtih this incredible foolish rename in RD but... They left FE11 difficulty untouched and with the addition of casual mode, any further changes should be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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