CrashGordon94 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Also, lol religion in video games. You don't see books getting pornography ratings for mangling religion's deities, so why would video games? Both should because it's extremely offensive, mroe than violence or sexuality. Oh hey, have you heard about that new game in Japan, Fire Emblem: Awakening? I heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that it's actually a loli rape simulator and nobody in it wears any clothes at all, especially the little girls, and it somehow got a B rating and is really popular. Now, I've never done any research at all about this monstrous game, and I've certainly never played it, but why would I want to play a loli rape simulator? No, it's just enough to be outraged about something I know nothing about - who needs to back up my position with facts, because I'm obviously already right? ...Right? My point is do your fucking research before you get all angry. Rage, indignation and bluster are not good substitutes for knowing what you're talking about. Now, an in-depth and researched critique of what exactly is wrong and offensive about SMT? That may potentially be an interesting read and people may be more inclined to hear what it has to say (not saying you should absolutely go write such a thing, though of course feel free). That's a strawman. FE13 isn't a "loli rape simulator" as many would point out if you were to go and make such a point for real however everyone seems to agree that the Christian God is the bad guy of SMT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm telling you man. We should discuss this somewhere else. o3o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopHatPanda Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Both should because it's extremely offensive, mroe than violence or sexuality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) That's a strawman. FE13 isn't a "loli rape simulator" as many would point out if you were to go and make such a point for real however everyone seems to agree that the Christian God is the bad guy of SMT. I don't care how SMT portrays religion. Just go talk about this in another thread, or make one.But you still admit to not even playing it, don't you? So you're just going off of stuff you've heard. K. Now, if you think someone out there takes SMT seriously, you have issues. (Well, there is always someone, I guess, but a significant portion of the people who play the game.) I already asked earlier, but I seriously want to know: is DLC rated seperatley or does it have to follow the orignal games rating? Edited November 12, 2012 by L95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pichupal Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Still think everything is pretty close to T for this game. Considering some fanservice-y stuff still get passed for T Record of Agarest War. Anyways, Optional DLC is rated separately from the main game, if it exceeds the current rating. Not mentioned, but mandatory DLC (IDK exactly what it would be for any game) has to match the games rating. From ESRB: Downloadable Content Downloadable content (DLC) that will be appended to a previously-rated product need only be submitted to ESRB for rating if its content exceeds that which is in the existing "core" product. Otherwise, the rating assigned to the core product is applicable to the DLC as well. Where, however, DLC content exceeds the rating assigned to the core product, it must be submitted to ESRB and a different rating may be assigned to the DLC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilere Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I already asked earlier, but I seriously want to know: is DLC rated seperatley or does it have to follow the orignal games rating? After doing some quick digging, most DLC goes unrated or just gets blanket ratings from the game. The only DLC I found that was actually rated was TES:IV Knights of the Nine, and it was just a copypaste from Oblivion's rating. I think the issue for needing separate ratings for DLC hasn't cropped up yet. Thankfully. I can't imagine that can of worms. [Edit]: Reading FAQs is fun! pichupal beat me to it. :( Edited November 12, 2012 by Twiilere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's one line that's easily changed. I think with Nono/nn, if they work it as a gray area "this is here, but we're not drawing attention to it", it won't cause issues. If borderline incest supports make it into previous installments with a T rating, I don't see why pedophilia wouldn't. What borderline incest supports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilere Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 What borderline incest supports? Ephraim and Eirika is considered one if you squint/tilt your head/live in an alternate reality. It really just could have been worded better to avoid that. Raven and Priscilla is also one, but it's only if you take it literally... which is probably not what she meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Oh yeah, those two supports that are only taken that way by ten fetishist fans in the entire fandom. There's nothing "borderline" about them - siblings can have an extremely close non-sexual bond. ;/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) siblings can have an extremely close non-sexual bond. Called marriage? On the the topic of Oblivion's Not9, I'm pretty sure that was rated because Bethesda was trying convince people it was actual content and not more horse armor/crappy house mods and gave it a physical release. Edited November 13, 2012 by deuxhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Marriage is nonsexual? Or are you talking about Raven and Prissy? I thought she was just bringing up a childhood promise. Like a kid wanting to marry someone because they really liked them, but not really getting the true meaning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balcerzak Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 For a continued discussion of the treatment of religion in Shin Megami Tensei, I direct you to the thread split. If you have posts made here that I missed moving, please notify me. Some posts still addressed the topic of ratings for FE:A with at least lip service so I probably let a few more slide than I should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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