Djing Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) I want another skill for Chrom to abuse rightful king with. Which skill is the better choice? Edited March 13, 2013 by Spaceman Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I want another skill for Chrom to abuse rightful king with. Which skill is the better choice? What mode are you playing on? Aegis might be better because Luna isn't that great, since enemies have like no DEF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Not necessarily. Armors still pose that problem and Luna helps a lot. But overall, Aegis is better because he appreciates that magical damage cut in half(even though my Chrom has capped Res) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) What mode are you playing on? Aegis might be better because Luna isn't that great, since enemies have like no DEF. Luna is actually helpful physical-wise. It's the physical side of Vengeance. Edited March 14, 2013 by Lady Feena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Luna is actually helpful physical-wise. It's the physical side of Vengeance. that doesn't make sense, Vengeance doesn't depend on physical or magical attacks (and Luna can activate on magic attacks too) Edited March 14, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeraldfox Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Isn't Luna pointless with Aether around? Since Aether is just Sol and Luna in the same sandwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt11 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Chrom already has the hybrid form of Luna thanks to Aether so having Luna as well seems as though it would be redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Isn't Luna pointless with Aether around? Since Aether is just Sol and Luna in the same sandwich. Aether's activation rate is skill divided by 2. The Sol and Luna activation rate is your skill stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKLucas531 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) I'm not sure if the game checks for Aether before Luna but basically max Skill + Rightful King Chrom would have a 40-ish% chance to activate Aether, then have a 60-ish% chance to activate Luna and still deal more damage than normal to fall back on if Aether doesn't go off. Edited March 14, 2013 by PKLucas531 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Shogi Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) If a RN is rolled and both Aether and Luna can activate, the skill with the lower activation rate will go first. In this case it's Aether. But since Aether doesn't always activate, having a Luna as backup is never bad. Edited March 14, 2013 by MagicLugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djing Posted March 14, 2013 Author Share Posted March 14, 2013 Luna has the benefit of being less work to get, but Aegis seems to suit Chrom's low resistance better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt11 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) Now that I think about it, why not get both? Give Chrom the skill set of Aegis, Aether, Luna, and Rightful king with the final skill being either defender or dual attack or guard +. Edited March 14, 2013 by Hunt11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) If a RN is rolled and both Aether and Luna can activate, the skill with the lower activation rate will go first. In this case it's Aether. But since Aether doesn't always activate, having a Luna as backup is never bad. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait, SINCE WHEN can that happen? If you attack twice because you have 5 more speed, it goes like this: Enemy Turn: Enemy attacks first. First attack: Aether activates --> Two hits, Sol and Luna. Second Attack due to 5 mores peed: Aether does not activate, so an RN gets rolled for Luna and it does activate. ---> 1 hit of Luna. Edit: Oh, wait... man the way you worded it made it sound like both can activate to make the first attack 3 attacks. Edited March 14, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I see a distinct lack of Skill +2 in this thread. That's a whopping 1% bonus to Aether's activation...how can you guys even consider passing that up? That's 2% bonus to Luna activation seriously guys seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJP28 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I see a distinct lack of Skill +2 in this thread. That's a whopping 1% bonus to Aether's activation...how can you guys even consider passing that up? That's 2% bonus to Luna activation seriously guys seriously What about stats +2 skill, it stacks with skill +2 and that is 4% torwards Luna, etc... 2% Aether... 1% Lithality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinned Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Luna > Aegis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Luna > Aegis. That really depends. When you have a bunch of BS forged weapon with extra accuracy from a Risen Sage with the +20 accuracy skill against Chrom... Luna won't do crap to save his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 That really depends. When you have a bunch of BS forged weapon with extra accuracy from a Risen Sage with the +20 accuracy skill against Chrom... Luna won't do crap to save his ass. pfft, people have Chrom out in front on Lunatic mode endgame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinned Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 With that logic, aegis is better than Aether/Astra/Lethality/Ignis (insert offensive skill here)? Anyway Luna's offense far outweighs Aegis' defense imo. Luna helps Chrom 1HKO enemies that he would've just 1RKO instead. Not to mention Luna can lay a smackdown on the end boss, With Chrom as a pair up partner, it actually works, whereas aegis doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If a RN is rolled and both Aether and Luna can activate, the skill with the lower activation rate will go first. In this case it's Aether. But since Aether doesn't always activate, having a Luna as backup is never bad. are you sure this is correct in terms of probability, there is a difference between independently rolling for aether and luna and simultaneously rolling for both at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 are you sure this is correct in terms of probability, there is a difference between independently rolling for aether and luna and simultaneously rolling for both at the same time yeah, i'm pretty sure Aether rolls before Luna, and if Aether activates it doesn't check Luna on that note though, what's the order between Aether/Astra, and Sol/Ignis/Luna (which gets checked first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) yeah, i'm pretty sure Aether rolls before Luna, and if Aether activates it doesn't check Luna on that note though, what's the order between Aether/Astra, and Sol/Ignis/Luna (which gets checked first) I think it has to do with activation rates (Lethality > Astra/Aether > Sol/Luna/Ignis > Vengeance in terms of priority). In other words, the game first checks to see if the skill with the lowest activation rate activates. If not, it goes to the one with the next lowest activation rate. Edited March 15, 2013 by Levant Fortner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) I think it has to do with activation rates (Lethality > Astra/Aether > Sol/Luna/Ignis > Vengeance in terms of priority). In other words, the game first checks to see if the skill with the lowest activation rate activates. If not, it goes to the one with the next lowest activation rate. that's exactly what I'm asking, does Aether go before Astra or not pretty sure they don't roll simultaneously Edited March 15, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) that's exactly what I'm asking, does Aether go before Astra or not pretty sure they don't roll simultaneously Aether rolls before Astra, according to the calculations page. And on that note, Sol rolls before Luna, and Luna rolls before Ignis. Edited March 15, 2013 by Levant Fortner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 oh wow Ignis is the last of the group .....i should check the front page more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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