Paper Jam Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Just so we're all clear on what the gender exclusive skills are... MALE Fighter: HP +5, Zeal Warrior: Rally Strength, Counter Barbarian: Despoil, Gamble Berserker: Wrath, Axefaire Villager: Aptitude, Underdog FEMALE Troubadour: Resistance +2, Demoiselle Valkyrie: Rally Resistance, Dual Support+ Pegasus Knight: Speed +2, Relief Falcon Knight: Rally Speed, Lancefaire Dark Flier: Rally Movement, Galeforce Dancer: Luck +4 What would you say are the best skills for men to pass on to their daughters or for women to pass on to their sons? (I'm sure Galeforce is one of the latter, but not all women with sons can be Dark Fliers...) For example, if Donnel had a daughter, should she inherit Aptitude or Counter? Those seem to be the most useful male-exclusive skills. Edited April 6, 2013 by Paper Jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) 1. Dancer: Luck +4 2. For example, if Donnel had a daughter, should she inherit Aptitude or Counter? Those seem to be the most useful male-exclusive skills. 1. You've forgot that Pr.Marth can also get Luck+4. 2. Aptitude. Counter is garbage. Enemies with Dragonskin makes it useless. That skill is better to be left to the enemies since YOU cannot blunt it. Dammit, Nihil better be an unused item, so we can bring it out with hacks. Edited April 6, 2013 by ポーラ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkbubblegum Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 2. Aptitude. Counter is garbage. Enemies with Dragonskin makes it useless. That skill is better to be left to the enemies since YOU cannot blunt it. Discrediting Counter for the entire game because one enemy has it's a bit uh, extreme though. Not that I'm picking a fight or anything, but my vote goes to Counter for daughters (And Galeforce for sons. I honestly come up with a blank for a Galeforce alternative to units that don't have access to the class. I'm so Galeforce-reliant orz) Counter forces AI to avoid hitting you with direct attacks unless they're certain they can kill you. Then you can just beef it up with breaker for ranged or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 1. You've forgot that Pr.Marth can also get Luck+4. And Seliph/Jamke have Galeforce. Obviously this thread was about inheritance given as the OP said so, so why even? ANYHOW For a dood to pass on to his daughter, no question Axefaire. I still tend to pass Aptitude down to Donnel's kid but that's because I'm not optimizing my games at all and it gets the kid going quicker, which is better for a game I'm discarding after Grima. (honorable mention despoil. i love despoil. ;~;) Chick to son, Galeforce. Lancefaire would be a nice backup, but anybody who can pass down one can pass down the other. :( Since Galeforce is so far down the tree, my actual run kids tend to inherit not female-exclusive skills from their mothers if I'm actually angling for a skill. That or Demoiselle, but Demoiselle is in the Despoil category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Mom to Son: DS+ and Galeforce. Dad to Daughter: Depends The only one that i remembered was Rally Strength from MU to Morgan Tiki, and Wrath for Morgan as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 If a son can get Demoiselle, I give them Demoiselle. Brady is just that lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormod Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) I definitely feel like Axefaire is the best male-only option. Counter just isn't worth it to me - most of the time I'm in a situation where either a. I'm not being hit in the first place, or b. getting hit too much kills you in which case I might not want to be doing more damage to the enemy than absolutely necessary/don't want to be taking too many hits anyway/etc. My point is, I just don't find the added damage from Counter has ever mattered on anything that I've seen have Counter. If it's kills I'm after, Axefaire just does it that much better because +5 power. Of the other options I'd take either Gamble or Despoil; maybe Wrath if they're going to be a Nosferatanker or something. As for females obviously Galeforce is a top-of-the-line option, but Demoiselle is a reasonable low-investment option or Lancefaire if I don't feel like the obvious choice. Otherwise either of the rallies can be nice should the kid be Male Morgan so he can Spectrum even better, but since there's two... yeah. Edited April 6, 2013 by Tormod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Mom to Son: DS+ and Galeforce. You only get one, and Dual Support+ is trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 As for as male exclusive skills are concerned, I'd pass down HP +5 because none of the other male exclusive skills seem good enough to me to look like they're worth having daughters inherit other than possibly Rally Strength and Aptitude. For female exclusive skills, I'd probably pass down a Rally skill, in the event that I don't care that much about Galeforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 You only get one, and Dual Support+ is trash. Its more of a "Dual support or Galeforce" kind of post. Also that one is specifically for Gerome because of Cherche's class selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Doesn't Dual Support give, like, +5 to the secondary combat stats for support partners? Shit, Demoiselle's almost better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) 10 Crit Avoid and 10 Avoid for males in 3 space vs 5 hit, avoid, crit, crit avoid to be exact its useful for Pr.Marth and thats about it ....did Demoiselle activate if the owner is a pair up fodder? Edited April 6, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renall Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Doesn't Dual Support give, like, +5 to the secondary combat stats for support partners? Shit, Demoiselle's almost better than that. It works when the character's the partner themselves, which automatically makes it worth it for Miriel and Cherche to pass on given that they have basically nothing better (everyone else passes Galeforce, this isn't even a question). Unless you intend to have the character running around as a Demoiselle dispenser, and you could just have a woman do that. It's also +10 Avoid/Crit/Crit Avoid when the characters don't have an A/S, which is handy for teaming with Spotpass and DLC characters. For male-only skills, Axefaire is still my favorite as long as the daughter actually has a decent axe class (like Severa or Nah or something). Counter is fairly situational. Honorable mention to Gaius's Sol, which while not technically male-exclusive is probably a good idea to pass to any of his daughters since the dumbass doesn't actually pass Hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 10 Crit Avoid and 10 Avoid for males in 3 space vs 5 hit, avoid, crit, crit avoid to be exact Well, if the characters can't support, the bonuses will be a bit higher, won't they? I guess it's better in some situations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCrazy Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Well, if the characters can't support, the bonuses will be a bit higher, won't they? I guess it's better in some situations? All of these (except the whatever+2 skills) are better in some situations. Galeforce and Wrath are the best though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Doesn't Dual Support give, like, +5 to the secondary combat stats for support partners? Shit, Demoiselle's almost better than that. DS+ gives the same bonus as an S-Rank (It ADDS 4, not "Is 4") Support to Hit/Avoid/Crit/Dodge. Without any supports it's 5 Hit, 10 Avoid, 10 Crit, 10 Dodge. Coupled with an S-rank already, it weakens, yes (same as a A-rank), but it's quite powerful. Certainly better than Demoiselle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Counter cause I enjoy making trolly streetpasses. Galeforce cause lolgaleforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeThiAnh Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I'd pass on Counter for a troll daughter like Henry!Noire or Donnel!Nah. As for mothers to sons, always Galeforce to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Galeforce Axefaire/Counter, although only one of my girls ever uses Axefaire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladin21 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 For male-only skills, Axefaire is still my favorite as long as the daughter actually has a decent axe class (like Severa or Nah or something). Counter is fairly situational. Honorable mention to Gaius's Sol, which while not technically male-exclusive is probably a good idea to pass to any of his daughters since the dumbass doesn't actually pass Hero. You can use Counter like the enemy's Kamikaze's to get hit if you use Lifetaker as well and you are certain the your character won't die in the process. I agree on Gaius' Sol and I'd add Miriel's Renewal as well, since only Kellam and Libra can pass War Monk. I also noticed that oddly Brady is the only son that can inherit any female only skill (except the dancer's skills) but no male only skills unless he receives the classes from his father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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