Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 **above bolded part should say when, not before.** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 elie read my post again i never assumed that grass was town because of shipping partners, just that they were shipping partners AND grass didn't roleclaim to scorri until later also elie explain why i'm still alive and get back to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 which is a reply to this: My thoughts are that Grass claimed something trustworthy to her, and he ended up giving her the axe before she could do anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 also elie fypov now grass is clear because if he was mafia he would have hammered you into autowin stop pushing shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 the other possibility is that you two are a scumteam but that's unlikely as heck at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 also then explain why you aren't lynched yet if you are town when absolutely everyone still alive bar Bal that are not confirmed town has posted since L-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 actually i forgot bal was already voting elie which means elie is confirmed maf, pls hammer (town!elie would have been hammered by now for maf autowin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 or don't hammer, I don't mind i can do this all day if i have to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 also the last scum is probably cam, bal would be my second guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 that said bussing at mylo makes bal a very unlikely candidate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 How the fuck should I know? Maybe there are people that don't want to look scummy by forcing an early hammer. Why you're still alive? The only thing ican think of is that scum TARGETTED THE CLAIMED WATCHER OVER YOU N1, and had a reason to target BBM night 2. I can't remember when it was that you claimed to be one shot Vig but I'm pretty certain you publically claimed that, and anyone with a noodle in their skull can ascertain the fact that a one shot Vig, while likely town, isn't an immediate scum threat. Or fear of trackers/doctors being out and about. You were like confirmed town leader or something. If you were scum, would you have shot the Vig n1/2 when a claimed watcher and unclaimed doc existed? It makes sense to me, so why can't you think of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Also I don't even know if a doc does even exist, it is just a presumable assumption. But I can say that it makes sense in my head, and should in yours. And I can do this all night long too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 elie it's confirmed mylo they would lynch you if you were town and kill someone to win. fuck looking scummy at that point, because hammer is hammer. i'd take a win over slowrolling the game and possibly losing it. and there's a reason they killed SB over me, because they could not kill me without saccing the killer. sb kill over me n1 makes the most sense with what I know and remember that I was claimed fulltime vig d1/n1, which is a pretty big deal and removing the permanent watcher on me would be mafia's highest priority ALSO how do you know there's a doc claim? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? I detect a slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 and cut lol i stand by that also being a possible slip. do you have anything to say about the fact that grass didn't hammer you when he had the chance? (if he's supposed scum from what you're saying) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 You'll be surprised to know that I am assuming that a doc exists. a bold assumption, I know. Holy balls. I don't actually know of a doc exists or not bit is it that strange of an assumption to consider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 also fmpov grass is obvtown because of reactions in OC/thread (which I'm not pointing out) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 and cut lol i stand by that also being a possible slip. do you have anything to say about the fact that grass didn't hammer you when he had the chance? (if he's supposed scum from what you're saying) One, he and I are a team. Unlikely according to you, but still a possibility if looking at it objectively. Two, scum wants to draw it out. Again, objective (and weird) assumption. Three, a role prevents him from hammering me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 i haven't heard that idea in a looooong time (role that can't hammer, which is also (probably) bastard i might add) and elie: if you and grass are a team and he isn't hammering you, that still makes him clear fypov and you're still confirmed because of earlier logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 anyway I have to go for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 i haven't heard that idea in a looooong time (role that can't hammer, which is also (probably) bastard i might add) Scorri died, so his role changed. Experimental game. Is it possible? Yes. The game only has an experimental tag in it. Cannot Hammer. Role is improved, but vote doesn't count. I don't know, anything could've happened. and elie: if you and grass are a team and he isn't hammering you, that still makes him clear fypov and you're still confirmed because of earlier logic. If me and grass are an alleged team, then how on this planet earth am I scum and he is town? You literally just said "if you and grass are both scum, then he's town and you're scum". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 okay i have a little time elie listen to me: I think grass is town. that out of the way, it's irrelevant. now, from your pov since grass didn't hammer you, he is superlikely town because (assuming you're town) if he was mafia he would have hammered you straight away instead of dancing about it. now take the following in mind: everyone that is not voting you + confirmed town has posted since. if any of them were mafia, they would have hammered you and won the game. also you can have "clears" that are your buddies from your perspective if you're both scum. don't try and misrep what i'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 now, from your pov since grass didn't hammer you, he is superlikely town because (assuming you're town) if he was mafia he would have hammered you straight away instead of dancing about it. This, I guess I can concede to. You sure picked a dancey way to get to this short-and-sweet point, god. ##Unvote now take the following in mind: everyone that is not voting you + confirmed town has posted since. if any of them were mafia, they would have hammered you and won the game. Assumed True. Cam hasn't placed any sort of even placeholder vote, which implies he hasn't even paid the least bit of attention to what's going on. He's gotta be town then, right? also you can have "clears" that are your buddies from your perspective if you're both scum. don't try and misrep what i'm saying. I literally translated exactly what you said. Don't you misrep me. See, I can play this game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Also, Shinori hasn't placed a vote at all. I'm assuming that his doesn't count since he's confirmed, but still. Grass has only held his vote, while Balcerzak was quick to throw a vote on me, as were you. If anything, it's probably one of you guys who's the actual scum, along with the other I guess being Cam then. Assuming we follow your logic of Grass being confirmed town because Grass, and Shinori already confirmed town because copious piles of Oracles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 ##Vote Cam because I hit post and wasn't thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I haven't voted cause I don't want to hammer to be frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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