General Horace Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 why is basilio not pairing with flavia though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 the assassins still double 29 speed (25 speed + 4 from Flavia) Basilio. Flavia can put Basilio in her pocket, have 32 speed, and not be doubled by anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 im pretty sure the assassins have 32 speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) If I was using Virion, I'd count his usefulness in terms of reclassing too. But you should also count the cost of the Second Seal going to Virion, too. Edited June 19, 2013 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 But you should also count the cost of the Second Seal going to Virion, too. And what is this cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 im pretty sure the assassins have 32 speed This. Basilio doesn't get doubled in his join chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 But he also isn't doubling some enemy types. If you want to someone to take down a hero, that's Flavia's job for example. He also doesnt double zerkers iirc. Since they have 26 spd or so, which Flavia doubles and he doesn't. Also, Olwen, Flavia does ORKO Generals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 who gives a shit cynthia is my pretty heroine fuck turncounts Seriously, she flies. That's good enough for me. I mean, look at FE9 Marcia. Okay... care to explain why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Okay, lets not forget that Cynthia, unlike most of the childs 1. Start with Lance Rank 2. Has absurd bases That is quite a good point for ZeEm once her turn comes >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) When I said 'fuck turncounts', it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. When I said Cynthia flies, she can easily see action more than a lot others. And she can make use of the terrain that hinders others, like all the trees in Chapter 24. But eh, whatever. I'm too tired to think straight. We'll save this for Cynthia's day. EDIT: Haha, Dragon Boner. Exactly. Edited June 20, 2013 by Zeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Okay, lets not forget that Cynthia, unlike most of the childs 1. Start with Lance Rank 2. Has absurd bases That is quite a good point for ZeEm once her turn comes >_> I was simply pointing out that Cynthia isn't that good in LTC. Also Axes > Lances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 But we're not rating by LTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 You don't need to care about turncounts to see that children are crap. They just have crappy bases, come too late and are not worth training at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 But we're not rating by LTC. I never said we were. I said Olwen was. You don't need to care about turncounts to see that children are crap. They just have crappy bases, come too late and are not worth training at all. I like them but they are rather impractical overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Well, considering you just skip over their paralogues to save turns... EDIT: Olwen's logic doesn't affect me, though. I'm free to disagree, which is why I defended Cynthia. Edited June 20, 2013 by Zeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Even if we don't consider the turns Cynthia costs, she's just useless to have around during the game. She's fantastic postgame but I don't know if that's included in the RTU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It isn't, because EVERYONE is amazing postgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Her mother is freaking Sumia Being "useless" is almost impossible >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Sumia's availability is what makes her useful. Can you imagine how useless Sumia would be if she came at the same time Cynthia did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Even though if you did things right, Cynthia's bases wouldn't be bad in the slightest? I mean come on. How would she be useless? She's definitely NOT on the same level as fucking Donnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 This discussion on Cynthia should occur on Cynthia's day, not Owain's day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Fair enough, Boron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Sumia's availability is what makes her useful. Can you imagine how useless Sumia would be if she came at the same time Cynthia did? She have Galeforce ONE chapter after Sumia get it Cool enough >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Even though if you did things right, Cynthia's bases wouldn't be bad in the slightest? I mean come on. How would she be useless? She's definitely NOT on the same level as fucking Donnel. I'd give Donnel a -1 if I could. The childrens' actual base stats = [(mother's current stats - mother's class base stats) + (father's current stats - father's class base stats) + child's absolute base stats] / 3 + child's class base stats Let's keep this simple because it's too much of a bother to deal with class bases and average stats. If we took 20 for both mother's current stats - mother's class base stats and father's current stats - father's class base stats, which is pretty likely at that point of the game (assuming their average stats for every stat will be around 25) then Cynthia will only have, for example, 20 strength. It's just unnecessary and pointless. Edited June 20, 2013 by Chiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Cynthia gets a 10/10, no explanation needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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