Tables Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Vantage, Vengeance, and Wrath. Especially Wrath The ironic thing is, put two of the skills you just named together and you have a very effective defensive combo. Add in Sol/Nosferatu, and you have a powerful build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Levant just likes complaining about Vengeance/Vantage not being reliable even though it is Slow Burn is atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Levant just likes complaining about Vengeance/Vantage not being reliable even though it is Actually, it's because I know better than to rely on gimmicks like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's not a gimmick. If you use Vengeance the same way you'd use Ignis, then of course it would be a terrible skill. Vengeance is for defense, and Ignis is for offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I don't think you know what gimmick means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Slow Burn is pretty bad 10 Turn to get In/Outdoor Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) It's not a gimmick. If you use Vengeance the same way you'd use Ignis, then of course it would be a terrible skill. Vengeance is for defense, and Ignis is for offense. I don't think you know what gimmick means Well, whatever. I prefer to play defensively, yet I wouldn't use Vantage/Vengeance ever since I probably wouldn't let my units dip that low in the first place. Edited May 26, 2013 by Levant Fortner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonMendez Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 actually the worst skill is HP + 5. its useless and no one uses it at all. its not good like renewal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Slow Burn is complete shit Indoor Fighter while outside and Outdoor Fighter while inside, does that count? and I wonder if Levant can claim Vantage/Vengeance sucks more than Brightbow claims Awakening sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I don't think Vengeance/Vantage is a bad combo, but I do question the wisdom of using Sol/Nosferatu/Aversa's Knight with it. oAo If the whole point of Vengeance/Vantage/Wrath is to be at low health, healing all that damage back seems very counter-intuitive. I was told that healing the damage is a failsafe in case of the worst, but it still seems silly to me. Then again, I'm only halfway through my Lunatic file, so maybe I might see the light soon. 8U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 actually the worst skill is HP + 5. its useless and no one uses it at all. its not good like renewal! False, false, false and Renewal's pretty good, so irrelevant. HP+5 is seriously nice early/midgame, it's a big endurance boost to go from 30 HP to 35 HP. It gives you extra security to take slightly riskier strategies, when you might otherwise be killed. I've used Vaike and fighters before, so your third statement is absolutely false. It's not a good skill, but it's pretty alright. Better than Skl+2, Luk+4, Res+2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramy Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 All archer/sniper skills are pretty bad :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 on that note, Rally Movement should've given +2 move to make it actually somewhat useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 actually the worst skill is HP + 5. its useless and no one uses it at all. its not good like renewal! I disagree. It's not that useless compared to, say, Counter, which deserves mention since taking enough damage to make it worth anything is pretty questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I disagree. It's not that useless compared to, say, Counter, which deserves mention since taking enough damage to make it worth anything is pretty questionable. oh really, I'm sure plenty of people would disagree about enemies with Counter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 oh really, I'm sure plenty of people would disagree about enemies with Counter Thanks for reminding me of the big reason why I hate Counter. It works so much better for the enemy than it does for the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inference Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I've always known that IS doesn't care for archers, and taking a huge steaming pile on their skill set really was the nail in the coffin. I'm thinking they should replace the class outright with musketeers in the next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 Oh snap, Slow Burn! That skill is ass and i hate it. Makes me sad because i love me some Dark Knight. Precience on non-archer units isnt that terrible. Not really fantastic but /shrug. Counter sucks and isnt worth it unless youre building trolly streetpass teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I've always known that IS doesn't care for archers, and taking a huge steaming pile on their skill set really was the nail in the coffin. I'm thinking they should replace the class outright with musketeers in the next game. watch them reintroduce FE10 crossbows, except with ridiculous attack for earlygame that causes the starting archer to be the best unit in the game yes I know this will never ever happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) - Prescience- Patience- Skill +2- Luck +4- Rally Luck- Defender- Indoor/Outdoor Fighter - Solidarity - Charm - Slow Burn - Zeal- Gamble- TantivyThese skills aren't really useful for me.Worst of all skills though.... is....Galeforce... Blegh... >_< Edited May 26, 2013 by Peppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshineYON Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Sure Strike. A skill so horrible it transcends me knowing that this is a Awakening thread. For those badmouthing Vengeance, it works wonders with Dark Tomes that steals life and its activation is crazy. If you're not using it the "right way", it gets kind of annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 True, but using life gain while vengeance is in your skill slot is counter-intuitive. It makes sense if you're up against hard hitting opponents-- but otherwise it's pointless as you'll only be getting five or six extra damage a strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondworld Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Luck +4 is the single greatest gift that mankind has been blessed with.oh my god it's so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerine Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Galeforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uguu Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Galeforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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