Ema Skye Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Yeah, I don't aim for good Morgans either (she's usually my rally bot when she's not busy bein' a loli). She's just a side effect of the supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) I ain't waiting a minimum of after chapter 17 to get one veterankid with actual bases when I can have 2 right after 13 //nogrind Edited July 14, 2013 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folt Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I just like the bonuses a Second-gen Morgan gets more than Third-gen Morgans, even if stats are a high priority for Morgan if the Avatar is a Female Avatar. I seldom need to marry a Second-gen to feel that Morgan is overpowered as heck (and I seldom need to marry Chrom with Avatar to feel that I'm getting the best out of the kids). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Kamina Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Ask yourself this: How many of those classes do you actually use? Depends on the skill set-up I want them to have. They usually end up as promoted versions of their base classes when I've gotten all the skills I want though. (Severa as a Hero, Morgan as a Grandmaster) I have nothing against Gen 3 Morgan, I just prefer Gen 2 Morgan + sibling. Edited July 14, 2013 by Virion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I absolutely hate the idea of marrying a 2nd gen, seeing as it's disgusting and pedophilic. The slight extra stats isn't worth sacrificing a second Morgan, to be honest, so I never do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) The side effect of Pair Up, A - S supports, and min maxing is the fact that your slight stats lead make practicaly every unit all the same. Example is say.... Chrom!Inigo vs Chrom!Morgan. Both Doubled Anna with optimal pair up, both killed shit dead. Who give a damn about extra stats because it make no fucking difference This is in a sense also why Donnel is not so good, contrary to popular belief. Every other unit does not die and kill shit dead with half as much effort. Donnel who does not have a mounts without lolbowknight become nothing more than an Average combat unit That being said, most of my planned set ups relied on 2 Morgan, although if I make a Streetpass team(which only need 10 units), I go gen 3 Edited July 14, 2013 by I have a Dragon Boner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7 Dynames Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm sorry, Horace, for such a rude response on my part. I did create this thread to see if others would agree with me (kind of a bad move on my part, I probably should've left it be and be happy with my own opinions), and I let a valid opinion get to me. I dunno whether it's how late it is (almost 3 AM over here), the stress of the trip I'm on (a ton of kids running around at this time does not make me a happy camper), or if I'm just a rude person in general (doubt it's this, it really isn't like me to lash out at these kind of things). Once again, I'm sorry. That was beautiful to read. This is why I love these forums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) 2 of my 3 Morgans have been 3rd gen because I mostly prefer the 2nd gen characters to the 1st gens ones >>' There are some awesome 1st gens, I'm just saying that the 2nd gen characters usually get more development. I absolutely hate the idea of marrying a 2nd gen, seeing as it's disgusting and pedophilic. The slight extra stats isn't worth sacrificing a second Morgan, to be honest, so I never do it. I understand that some people dislike the idea of marrying 2nd gen, for similar reasons, but isn't that overstating it a little? They're pretty much the same age as the MU is, because they came from the future, so I'm not really sure that it can be seen as pedophilic. unless you make the MU look like a super old guy or alternatively you could make your MU look like a child and then any pedophilia is completely cleared up hehehehehehehehehe Edited July 14, 2013 by The Fush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I am going to make a 3rd gen Morgan in my new run. I still haven't decided with who though... Thing is I always preferred to have two children and it has really nothing to do with stats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) I absolutely hate the idea of marrying a 2nd gen, seeing as it's disgusting and pedophilic. The slight extra stats isn't worth sacrificing a second Morgan, to be honest, so I never do it. I understand that some people dislike the idea of marrying 2nd gen, for similar reasons, but isn't that overstating it a little? They're pretty much the same age as the MU is, because they came from the future, so I'm not really sure that it can be seen as pedophilic. unless you make the MU look like a super old guy or alternatively you could make your MU look like a child and then any pedophilia is completely cleared up hehehehehehehehehe Here's what I'm saying for both sides: There are people that are uncomfortable with it. Both of y'all shut up and just accept it instead of going on crusades on each other. My premier examples are Vapo and Airship Canon in that regard considering how both of you have had that condescending tone. If anyone's has the right to should sound elitist and condescending, it's the weeb, not the regular members. Edited July 14, 2013 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 If anyone's has the right to should sound elitist and condescending, it's the weeb, not the regular members. Please stop that. any who I don't see why the player can't just pick who the Avatar marries for the Morgan they want. Unless you're doing some serious min/max stuff for some of the tougher maps. Then again Rallies and Pair Up bonuses exist.... Hm. Or you can just go with whoever strikes your fancy. That's funny phrase. Strikes your fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Please stop that. Seconded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Please stop that. Seconded It was obviously a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfOnlyIHadAMemoryEraser Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Personally, I prefer third gen Morgans. I've never felt the need for having two "Morgans" and I have a lot of fun thinking up pairing combinations for fun/weird modifiers for the Morgan. Eg. Most recent one I did was a Ricken!Noire!+STR-RES!Morgan for a nice mixed attacker. The Speed modifier leaves something to be desired, but hey, that's part of the fun with experimenting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The only real technical reasons why you would want a third-gen Morgan is if you are a modifier junkie or if you are wanting to have a female Morgan with Aether/Rightful King. Since modifiers aren't very important, you must either really like a second-gen character or desire an even more broken Morgan in exchange for another broken child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kDog214 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Man, 3rd Gen Morgans are awesome, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I suppose. Well, I guess the only practical thing about 3rd Gen Morgans are their ungodly caps; other than that, the only unique skills that 3rd Gen Morgans can gain access to are Rightful King from Lucina's brothers, Aether from Lucina and her sisters...and Aptitude or Underdog from Donnel's kid...yeah...but hey, high caps and Aether/Rightful King are pretty solid in my book. 2nd Gen Morgan gets the skills listed above along with Conquest and Shadowgift. Lower caps, but the difference is practically negligible (unless you went for UBER Morgan or a Morgan with evenly spread mods like Lon'qu!Laurent!Morgan), AND you get a second Morgan (yay! ^^). The only REAL downside is that Morgan's sibling will not utilize all the skills that they have access to... ...And so, there you have it. There are your pros and cons. You can add more to this list if you want as there's a good possibility that I was Mister Ignoramus and forgot some other shit that belongs in the argument. *clenches fist* It's okay I can take it. T^T The Speed modifier leaves something to be desired, but hey, that's part of the fun with experimenting! That indeed. That indeed Edited July 14, 2013 by kDog214 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Skittles Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 3rd gen morgans are the best for postgame. +11 strength modifier on Vaike!Gerome!Morgan says hi then again they're only really useful for postgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 As far as I'm concerned, the practicality of marrying the avatar to a child character is kinda questionable, particularly for some kids (I'm looking at you, Inigo!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitchy Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Why marry a second-gen when I can marry my Nowi-Wowi and have a super-powered Nah to go with my super-powerful Manakete Morgan? I understand that third-gen Morgans are even stronger than second-gen Morgans, but since second-gen Morgan is strong enough, third-gen is overdoing it. Plus you get a cool sibling for him/her if you have a male avatar or you marry Chrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraLunaSol Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 pls gimmie my 2 morgans that is literally my only reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tables Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I ain't waiting a minimum of after chapter 17 to get one veterankid with actual bases when I can have 2 right after 13 //nogrind Pretty much this. Ingame is what really matters, and 3rd gen Morgan sacrifices far too much for essentially no benefit (you won't hit caps in game, generally) Of course, postgame is what most people seem to be implicity talking about here, at which point I'd agree it's possibly better. You do lose out on a Galeforce child, I believe (three females with daughters don't have pegasus knight, only two non-Avatar males give it), and depending on how good you can make the skillset of the other child, a potentially worse 2nd gen child, but Morgan becomes slightly better, which might just make up for it. I don't know enough about optimising kids to say for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 The only real technical reasons why you would want a third-gen Morgan is if you are a modifier junkie or if you are wanting to have a female Morgan with Aether/Rightful King. Since modifiers aren't very important, you must either really like a second-gen character or desire an even more broken Morgan in exchange for another broken child. but the latter is impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted July 14, 2013 Author Share Posted July 14, 2013 I absolutely hate the idea of marrying a 2nd gen, seeing as it's disgusting and pedophilic. Sixteen years old and I'm already a disgusting pedophile. Woe is me. That was beautiful to read. This is why I love these forums! I hope that's not sarcastic. XD but the latter is impossible No it isn't. Well, female!Morgan can inherit Aether from Lucina or Chrom!Cynthia, at least. Is that what you meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 i think he means that no non-lord character can have both aether and rightful king (which is true) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 No it isn't. Well, female!Morgan can inherit Aether from Lucina or Chrom!Cynthia, at least. Is that what you meant? he said Rightful King too i think he means that no non-lord character can have both aether and rightful king (which is true) yeah that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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