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Of the starters' middle stages, I'm liking the frog's the best so far. Though the final forms will be the deciding factor on the starter I choose.

Mewtwo X, I'll admit I find quite neat, but I still have a burning hatred for Mewtwo for a lot of reasons.

I find the shaggy dog Pokemon to be alright, I guess.

I'm liking the two fossil Pokemon, especially the Brontosaurus. It's kind of strange that we only got a Brontosaurus Pokemon just now.

The two cats seem very interesting, especially with the major gender and moveset differences. I wonder if they'll be considered different Pokedex entries like the male and female Nidoran families. I also wonder if it's the rumoured Espurr Pokemon from this article.

As for the lion, I guess it's alright. Though fire types have always been my least favourite Pokemon type.

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I'm liking the two fossil Pokemon, especially the Brontosaurus. It's kind of strange that we only got a Brontosaurus Pokemon just now.

And Tropius has now officially been forever forgotten.
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Mega Tropius would be awesome! Really wanna see that to. Giga Grass type brontosaur, why not? Would probably have something related to being Flying type.

I also like that Fire lion! Damn, been waiting long for this. It's evolution doesn't have the desired design though, but I'll manage. I hope it gets a 2nd evolution to.

Rhyperior should get one to, cause I can't stand it otherwise. It's a great Pokémon in battle, but it's design? Horrible horrible horrible. Make it Steel and Ground also, and on four legs. Cause I miss it being a rhino.

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Dark types, if anything, are actually better this gen then before. Ghost types are going to be incredibly early XY because Dark and Normal types are the only types that resist it, giving it similar offensive prowess to Dragons, being resisted by one type and immune to the other. The difference is that Dragon has stronger STABs, but has one more weakness than Ghost types.

And Dark types are the only type that resists Ghost types that hits them with effective STAB.

Also Heatran is now has an incredible defensive typing with a 4x resist to Fairy.

Also for reference for Fairy retypes, here's the defensive weaknesses/resistances of each possible Fairy retype.

Normal/Fairy:

Weaknesses: Steel, Poison

Resists: Bug/Dark

Immunities: Ghost, Dragon

Fighting/Fairy

Weaknesses: Fairy, Psychic, Flying, Steel, Poison

Resists: Bug (x4), Dark (x4), Rock, Fighting

Immunities: Dragon

Flying/Fairy

Weaknesses: Ice, Electric, Rock, Poison, Steel

Resists: Bug (x4), Fighting (x4), Grass, Dark

Immunities: Dragon, Ground

Poison/Fairy

Weaknesses: Steel, Ground, Psychic

Resists: Fighting (x4), Bug (x4), Grass, Fairy

Immunities: Dragon

Ground/Fairy

Weaknesses: Steel, Ice, Grass, Water

Resists: Fighting, Bug, Dark, Rock

Immunities: Electric, Dragon

Rock/Fairy

Weaknesses: Grass, Ground, Water, Steel (x4)

Resists: Normal, Fire, Flying, Dark, Bug

Immunities: Dragon

Bug/Fairy

Weaknesses: Flying, Rock, Fire, Steel

Resists: Fighting (x4), Dark, Bug, Grass, Ground

Immunities: Dragon

Ghost/Fairy

Weaknesses: Ghost, Steel

Resists: Bug (x4)

Immunities: Dragon, Fighting, Normal

Steel/Fairy

Weaknesses: Fire, Ground

Resists: Bug (x4), Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Fairy

Immunities: Dragon, Poison

Fire/Fairy

Weaknesses: Ground, Rock, Water, Poison

Resists: Fairy, Bug (x4), Fire, Grass, Ice

Immunities: Dragon

Water/Fairy

Weaknesses: Grass, Electric, Poison

Resists: Fire, Ice, Water, Fighting, Dark, Bug

Immunities: Dragon

Grass/Fairy

Weaknesses: Fire, Flying, Ice, Poison (x4)

Resists: Electric, Grass, Ground, Water, Fighting, Dark

Immunities: Dragon

Electric/Fairy

Weaknesses: Ground, Poison

Resists: Electric, Flying, Fighting, Dark, Bug

Immunities: Dragon

Psychic/Fairy

Weaknesses: Ghost

Resists: Fighting (x4), Psychic

Immunities: Dragon

Ice/Fairy

Weaknesses: Fire, Rock, Steel (x4)

Resists: Ice, Dark, Bug

Immunities: Dragon

Dragon/Fairy

Weaknesses: Fairy, Ice, Poison, Steel

Resists: Fighting, Dark, Bug, Electric, Fire, Grass, Water

Immunities: Dragon

Dark/Fairy

Weaknesses: Poison, Steel, Fairy

Resists: Dark (x4), Ghost

Immunities: Psychic, Dragon

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Mightyena could count as a hyena and wolf hybrid of sorts?

And Ghost has a slight advantage over Dragon now I think due to not being weak against Ice. Ice attacks are quite common. And lots of Dragons have Flying as a second type, or something otherwise weak against Ice, as Ground.

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And Tropius has now officially been forever forgotten.

So does the worst starter ever, but let's really forget about that abomination.

Mightyena could count as a hyena and wolf hybrid of sorts?

Aside of the actual lack of female dominance, it's pretty clear it's just a hyena.

As for whether Dark gets a net buff or nerf, it all dépends on how common both Fairy types will be used in the metagame and how often will Fairy moves be used in it, with or without STAB, but it's not looking too pretty for Tyranitar and his seven weaknesses.

If Gengar gets any decent Fairy type move though, it's going to be a fun sight to see.

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New Pokemon names!

Chespin evo = Quilladin (Quill + Paladin, confirmed to be a soldier?)

Fennekin evo = Braixen (??? + Vixen?)

Froakie evo = Frogadier (Frog + Brigadier?)

T-rex = Tyrunt (Tyrant + Runt, sweet name)

Ice dino = Amaura (??? + Aura?)

Poodle = Furfrou (Fur + Frou-Frou)

Psychic cats = Meowstic (Meow + Mystic)

High quality names all around.

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New Pokemon names!

Chespin evo = Quilladin (Quill + Paladin, confirmed to be a soldier?)

Fennekin evo = Braixen (??? + Vixen?)

Froakie evo = Frogadier (Frog + Brigadier?)

T-rex = Tyrunt (Tyrant + Runt, sweet name)

Ice dino = Amaura (??? + Aura?)

Poodle = Furfrou (Fur + Frou-Frou)

Psychic cats = Meowstic (Meow + Mystic)

High quality names all around.

... Frogadier?

HELL YEAH. I'm loving my starter more and more.

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The full type chart has been uploaded to the official site (which also confirms the CoroCoro scans) (here: http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Type-Matchup_chart_EN.pdf ) - of note, at the bottom, apparently Electric-type Pokemon are no longer afflicted by Paralysis? (Or was this added in Gen V?)

Kinda disappointing that Steel was the only prior type that had its multipliers change for the new chart - there are other types that really could have used it. I mean, Poison is only effective against two types, and there are significantly better options to hit those types with anyway! Heck, if you wanted to nerf Steel, make it weak to Electric-type moves. The only bigger guy that doesn't get hit by it is Excadrill. (And Empoleon gets hit by the nerf bat, unfortunately.)

EDIT - #GameFreakWhyCantYouActuallyBalanceAnythingThatNeedsIt

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Well, this game certainly seems to be creating more hype than past Pokemon games.

And gotta admit, I can't wait for the game~ :3

Looking forward to Etrian Oddysey Untold and Ace Attorney, too, though, if not more so.

Yes, yes and more yes. October's going to be a great month for gaming indeed.

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