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Bishop gives more magic on promotion, Slayer, but I think the selling point is that Bishop levels up much faster than Sage. Promote Moulder immediately when you reach lv. 10 and he'll be getting experience at a pace similar or faster than your high-levelled unpromoted units (he will have to fight of course, which demands some decent combat parameters).

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Moulder isn't going to reach his MAG cap for either class even at 20/20. I've never understood why NO AS LOSS ELFIRE is hyped so much when Moulder will probably fight monsters more than humans, and Slayer >> Elfire

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Moulder is one of the characters with difficulties doubling though, considering how slowly he gains levels before the promotion. Though I guess the reason why I always get slow Moulders is because I try to get magic whenever I can, and getting both on the same level is highly improbable.

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Moulder is one of the characters with difficulties doubling though, considering how slowly he gains levels before the promotion. Though I guess the reason why I always get slow Moulders is because I try to get magic whenever I can, and getting both on the same level is highly improbable.

yes, his growths are kind of a bummer (40 mag, 40 speed and levelling slowly). At least he doesn't start at Level 1.

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Moulder is one of the characters with difficulties doubling though, considering how slowly he gains levels before the promotion. Though I guess the reason why I always get slow Moulders is because I try to get magic whenever I can, and getting both on the same level is highly improbable.

Too lazy to pull up exact stats, but wouldn't one hit of effective Shine do more damage than two hits of Elfire?

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Too lazy to pull up exact stats, but wouldn't one hit of effective Shine do more damage than two hits of Elfire?

IIRC All monster enemies(maybe beside some baels early) can be 2HKO by Moulder@Elfire.

However, Bishops can have troubles with taking some human enemies (don't mention that Light magic is weak and expensive). IMO EXP bonus isn't that high to make Moulder Bishop. IMO only Bishop in this game is Arthur, because C in staves.

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Assuming perfect averages, he should have 11-12 Speed when he promotes (that's level 10, and neither of his promotions give Speed). When I do my drafts, I can usually promote him at about Chapter 11 (so I'll assume. . .somewhere around there). Since I see Duessel mentioned, I'll grab some Ephraim route stats.

In Chapter 11, the only things that Moulder DOESN'T double are the Iron Lance Gargoyles, Javelin Wight (Steel Lance Wights if he's at 11 AS), and the boss. Whether or not he can ORKO stuff with Shine is another matter entirely (don't feel like crunching THOSE numbers). Not sure about the numbers after that, but if Eir numbers are any indication, he'll continue to double the slower classes for a while (as in, most of the unpromoted units in Chapter 13 Eir).

I'd grab an early Restore, and use that to gain levels, stat. The faster he promotes, the faster Moulder can start being useful.

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High HP and decent skill and defense

Aren't fighters typically lacking skill though? That was always the noticeable drawback with mine, at least for the GBA games. Defense was pretty okay but they did miss a bit more often.

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Aren't fighters typically lacking skill though? That was always the noticeable drawback with mine, at least for the GBA games. Defense was pretty okay but they did miss a bit more often.

Axe hit rates.

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GBA Fighters are typically lacking in everything that isn't HP and Str. Their good growths are often accompanied by poor base stats, and even their base Str is nothing to write home about (unless it's Bartre).

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GBA Fighters are typically lacking in everything that isn't HP and Str. Their good growths are often accompanied by poor base stats, and even their base Str is nothing to write home about (unless it's Bartre).

Exactly why I consider them scrubs, save for Geitz.

High HP and decent skill and defense

High HP means little when you take a lot of damage from pretty much everything, IMO.

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Aren't fighters typically lacking skill though? That was always the noticeable drawback with mine, at least for the GBA games. Defense was pretty okay but they did miss a bit more often.

There skill is generally pretty decent, Pirates are the ones with bad skill

Exactly why I consider them scrubs, save for Geitz.

High HP means little when you take a lot of damage from pretty much everything, IMO.

Geitz is okay, I prefer my other fighters (anti-pre promote bias).

Agreed, but it's another stat they have a lot of.

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There skill is generally pretty decent, Pirates are the ones with bad skill

Geitz is okay, I prefer my other fighters (anti-pre promote bias).

Agreed, but it's another stat they have a lot of.

I generally don't see GBA fighters as good for anything other than benchwarmers because most of them are the typical "good HP and Strength, bad everything else" axemen. Which, incidentally, is a reason why despite most people thinking Dozla isn't bad, I still look down on him.

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Dart is amazing. More people need to be like Dart

But wait this isn't FE7

[spoiler=Chapter 7: Waterside Renvall]

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The game knows who I want to use

Well, except for the hoar in the back

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Attack them from the rear

And yell 'surprise!'

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No

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BEARD WANTS LEADERSHIP

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I forgot why I took this. Probably because I'm using Moulder

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Wolverine knows his shit. Life lesson here folks

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Shut up I haven't even used you

Why did I recruit you again?

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I FORGOT TO BUY A HEAL STAFF

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I smell big boosts

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What a bro. We'll probably have to kill him though

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MURRAY'S BRIGADE

THINGS ARE GETTING SERIOUS

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Apparently dodging thunder is a thing

Not bad Wolverine

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SKILLIAM

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Poor mage got RNG screwed

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NOURISHMENT

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Drawing out the enemy; one unit at a time

I'm a pretty safe and patient player. I would be awful a LTC playthroughs

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I...

Ugh...

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I feel this is a subtle stab at his facial hair, Beard

How could you?

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THE MOUSTACHE STANDS UP FOR ITSELF

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HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO HIM EARS?

The ears should be the main antagonists

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Gilliam-bum why?

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Wolverine should take lessons from Beard

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Moustache really needs experience

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IF ONLY YOU CAPPED STRENGTH

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Well one wasn't used

The other one wasn't doing damage

Murray's Brigade sucks quite a bit

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BEARD YES

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BEARD NO

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Weapon triangle means jack squat

Goddammit Wolverine

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This was a pointless turn

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My army needs to wear glasses dammit

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The hatchet of doom

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BEARD IS EVOLVING

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BEARD EVOLVED INTO GENERAL BEARD

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DA BOOSTS

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Well this has made everything so much easier

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GENERAL BEARD; I CHOOSE YOU

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ORSON YES

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Yeah looking at you you do look pretty awful

Hopefully the same thing hasn't happened to Brophraim. Lets find out

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Oops. Double post by accident

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Ghahaha... General...

But he can be not so bad, because all other units won't have more than 6 mov, so he might can do some damage.And he probably get super late coming boosts.

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Ghahaha... General...

But he can be not so bad, because all other units won't have more than 6 mov, so he might can do some damage.And he probably get super late coming boosts.

I only chose general because I'm using Duessel, and I dislike using two units of the same class. Otherwise I would've gone GK

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