link arena Fire Emblem Link Arena Discussion Topic

[Elieson]

Does gamble cut displayed HIT in half, or total accuracy pre displayed HIT?

Also how does it handle the doubling of crit?

Like, say you have 98 HIT and 54 crit because of the bonus 50 from Wrath. Does gamble give you 49 HIT AND 100 Crit? Or is it 58 due to doubling your actual crit pre-wrath.

Edited March 5, 2014 by Elieson

[General Horace]

It cuts base accuracy in half, not hit.

i was trying to say what espi said but it came out wrong :(

Edited March 5, 2014 by General Horace

[Espinosa]

Should be displayed hit, I'm pretty sure. Kinda like Deadeye in reverse.

[Elieson]

I edited in another question regarding crit pss

[Espinosa]

The Wrath crit is never actually displayed, so Wrath probably follows Gamble's boost rather than the other way around. That means no guaranteed 100% crit (technically you can still get it with, like, VK or innate +crit).

[Elieson]

How about supports? I assume that it halves and doubles hit and crit post-Support calc, rather then pre.

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Edited March 5, 2014 by Elieson

[Espinosa]

Post-support, pre-Wrath makes sense to me.

[Tables]

I'm pretty sure it halves displayed hit and doubles displayed crit. As Wrath adds crit after the displayed crit, I would expect it to not affect wrath.

Also Horace and Elieson: I couldn't update this morning, but I should have your thread up soon. As in probably within an hour.

[Elieson]

What about activation? Can it be activated on a Nihil/Parity user (since it is manually activated) in the arena setting?

[General Horace]

Since it's a battle skill, i'm pretty sure it's cancelled.

[Elieson]

So if I got Turn 1 and chose to activate Gamble against say, Nephenee, and she had Nihil, nothing would happen?

[Espinosa]

Even though it's a player phase-only command, Nihil/Parity makes it null. You can still choose the command against a Parity user in-game but there will be no increase in the crit rate. Just tested this in-game against Rickard.

[Elieson]

OK cool thx

[Tables]

I'm pretty sure it halves displayed hit and doubles displayed crit. As Wrath adds crit after the displayed crit, I would expect it to not affect wrath.

Also Horace and Elieson: I couldn't update this morning, but I should have your thread up soon. As in probably within an hour.

Within an hour actually means just over two hours. And I've probably messed something up but hopefully not.

[AnonymousSpeed]

Hey, I have a crazy idea for an FE9 max stat while my other one awaits an update, any hosting takers?

[Refa]

Don't you need someone to play against first?

[AnonymousSpeed]

Don't you need someone to play against first?

True, any of those either?

[Tables]

I did a little looking and with the way stats are currently presented, I could imagine this would be an easy mistake to make: When a demi-band transformed Laguz has resolve active, the resolve boost will be half the normal transformed Str/Skl/Spd. Example in action here. The reason this happens is that demi band doesn't reduce the gains from transforming, it gives you the full gains then applies a penalty (half the transformation gains) to each stat. And resolve gives a bonus based on the raw stat, not the penalised stat, so e.g. Ranulf is getting +10 Str: +13 from Resolve, then -3 from the Demi Band. If you applied this the wrong way around, he would have +8: -3 from the Demi Band, then +11 from Resolve.

I don't know how well known this is, so I thought I should probably point it out for people's information.

Edit: In general, this will probably work out as that Demi Banded Laguz have 1-2 more in each stat than if you calculated the other way around.

Edited March 7, 2014 by Tables

[Da Bear]

Is baldrick still interested in the match with all the supports cut from the game (and normal supports I assume)?

[Randa]

True, any of those either?

I'll take you on. I have another team I wanna give a test run for.

[Icon of Sin]

Don't you need someone to play against first?

Hey don't diss a man's singleplayer action with his joystick.

[AnonymousSpeed]

I'll take you on. I have another team I wanna give a test run for.

Sure, who shall host?

Hey don't diss a man's singleplayer action with his joystick.

But I like buttons.

...oh wait, wait a minute, this could have been worded better.

Edited March 7, 2014 by AnonymousSpeed

[Da Bear]

Hey don't diss a man's singleplayer action with his joystick.

This can't have been unintentional.

[Baldrick]

Is baldrick still interested in the match with all the supports cut from the game (and normal supports I assume)?

Yeah. No hurry though, my activity will be sporadic over the next 4 days or so.

[Espinosa]

I did a little looking and with the way stats are currently presented, I could imagine this would be an easy mistake to make: When a demi-band transformed Laguz has resolve active, the resolve boost will be half the normal transformed Str/Skl/Spd. Example in action here. The reason this happens is that demi band doesn't reduce the gains from transforming, it gives you the full gains then applies a penalty (half the transformation gains) to each stat. And resolve gives a bonus based on the raw stat, not the penalised stat, so e.g. Ranulf is getting +10 Str: +13 from Resolve, then -3 from the Demi Band. If you applied this the wrong way around, he would have +8: -3 from the Demi Band, then +11 from Resolve.

I don't know how well known this is, so I thought I should probably point it out for people's information.

Edit: In general, this will probably work out as that Demi Banded Laguz have 1-2 more in each stat than if you calculated the other way around.

Wrong link?