link arena Fire Emblem Link Arena Discussion Topic

[ZemZem]

PMed. Thanks much, Shin.

[General Horace]

I wanna try an FE6 averages game, I have the best worst team idea ever I want to try. No SM's averages would be preferred.

If possible i'd like to try averages + boosters too, only including boosters you get ingame ignoring the secret shop. I'm working on putting together a list of them now.

Edited July 16, 2015 by General Horace

[AnonymousSpeed]

I wanna try an FE6 averages game, I have the best worst team idea ever I want to try. No SM's averages would be preferred.

If possible i'd like to try averages + boosters too, only including boosters you get ingame ignoring the secret shop. I'm working on putting together a list of them now.

That will be a very useful list to have.

You know what? Sure, I'll accept. Let's see what I can come up with and hope I don't get wrecked, utterly, like Zeiss.

[General Horace]

Haha, awesome. The list is a bit different though, since there are two route splits.

Here it is.

You get these regardless

1 Angelic Robe
1 Goddess Icon
1 Secret Book
1 Body Ring
1 Talisman
1 Speedwings
1 Dragonshield


and then make a choice for extra boosters... (choose one of A/B Route and one of Sacae/Ilia route)


   A Route           or        B Route
1 Dragonshield             1 Speedwing
1 Angelic Robe             1 Dragonshield
1 Speedwings               1 Energy Ring




    Ilia            or           Sacae 
1 Goddess Icon             1 Energy Ring
1 Speedwings               1 Dragonshield
1 Angelic Robe             1 Goddess Icon
1 Energy Ring
1 Secret Book

So depending on your team, you may want one set of boosters over the other. Although Ilia vs Sacae is kind of... a Dragonshield vs Angelic Robe + Secret book.

Edited July 16, 2015 by General Horace

[AnonymousSpeed]

Ooh, choices, nice!

What characters can you only get from what routes? We'd probably want to keep that it mind.

[General Horace]

Oh yeah, good point. If you pick A Route, you have access to Echidna. If you pick B Route, you get access to Bartre. (the dancers don't matter)

And on Ilia route, you get Juno, and Sacae you get Dayan.

[AnonymousSpeed]

Alright, somehow I doubt those differences will matter too much.

Don't Geese and Gonzales have different stats depending on the route?

[General Horace]

Gonzales's are different, Geese's are the same. Just go http://serenesforest.net/binding-blade/characters/average-stats/gonzales-dir/there and pick whichever route you use if you use Gonzales. He's a lot better on A Route.

Also Tate's and Klein's stats are ever so slightly different too. Tate gets an extra point of luck on A route, and actually Klein ends up being the same.

Edited July 16, 2015 by General Horace

[Zerosabers]

I think I've got how it works now, those rn's were probably the most confusing thing to figure out though.

[Elieson]

Interesting; didn't even consider FE6|NoSecretShop&Avgs&Routes match (with no SMs)

[General Horace]

Anyone want to be a bro and host? I'll host a game of yours in exchange

[AnonymousSpeed]

Gonzales's are different, Geese's are the same. Just go http://serenesforest.net/binding-blade/characters/average-stats/gonzales-dir/there and pick whichever route you use if you use Gonzales. He's a lot better on A Route.

Also Tate's and Klein's stats are ever so slightly different too. Tate gets an extra point of luck on A route, and actually Klein ends up being the same.

True, I assume Hard Mode as well? Either way, he's an axe user without a + hit affinity, so...

One more point of luck? Hot Dog, I'm sold!

I think I've got how it works now, those rn's were probably the most confusing thing to figure out though.

Hits use Double RNG, which basically means you roll twice and use the average.

[General Horace]

Yeah, everything's assumed to be Hard mode.

[AnonymousSpeed]

Yeah, everything's assumed to be Hard mode.

For some reason I decided to ask.

[General Horace]

Better safe then sorry!

I'm still deciding if I want to run a massive gimmick or try to make a non gimmick team.

[Espinosa]

We've never really restricted units based on what route you take or what choices you make, so if somebody submitted a team with both Harken and Karel, or both Echidna and Bartre, I wouldn't really have a big problem. "Continuity within one game file", though...

We always used the best Hard Mode stats, up until Awakening no reclass averages that is (Flavia and Basilio too stronk).

Edited July 16, 2015 by Snoop Dogg

[Zerosabers]

Hits use Double RNG, which basically means you roll twice and use the average.

Yea, that's what I assumed since I think all FE games use it?

[Psych]

how would you even handle Berserk?

Hosts would have to RN a 1/(surviving Playercount) chance to see if the side with the berserked unit is forced to randomly attack, instead of letting the player choose

Then, it's a 1/(surviving units) chance to see who gets hit, and with I guess the most optimal weapon?

I'd just leave them with what they were currently equipped with.

What did people think of my 2 actions per turn idea? It allows healing to be viable since you wouldn't sacrifice a turn for combat but if you chose to spend both actions fighting then it might be too big of a downfall for the second player. Presumably each PC would only be allowed one action per turn unless we wanted to bring dancers into the mix but they'd likely only be relevant in an 4 and 13 meta. Then you could let the same person attack twice but they'd have to have a dancer on their team.

[AnonymousSpeed]

Better safe then sorry!

I'm still deciding if I want to run a massive gimmick or try to make a non gimmick team.

Dude, gimmicks. I'm going to try a gimmick, no idea if it works though...

Yea, that's what I assumed since I think all FE games use it?

I think the idea was actually introduced in FE7, but I've been using it for FE6 because...reasons.

[General Horace]

It was introduced in FE6, actually. It's just a myth that FE6 uses 1 RN because of the slightly lower hitrates.

Edited July 16, 2015 by General Horace

[Zerosabers]

Do we know the RNs used in awakening or is it assumed to be 2?

[AnonymousSpeed]

It uses 2, I believe.

It was introduced in FE6, actually. It's just a myth that FE6 uses 1 RN because of the slightly lower hitrates.

I have been mythceived.

[Shin]

This was completely worth the half hour it took.

[spoiler=Turbans are the new fedoras]

[AnonymousSpeed]

Totally worth it.

Shin, did you hear about the Shin which failed the name Shin and died horribly?

[Jedi]

So piggybacking off the idea for a set money amount for GBA game Link Arenas

How would you guys feel about Legendaries getting a numerical value we set as well. Making them a bit harder to all have at once, of course money values would be a bit tricky to think of a cap for us to all have.

Also has anyone done the age old 1v1v1v1 Link Arena format before?