dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 lol what, check your ROM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Fiora having a +100% Skill growth confirmed. Fantastic showing of CoD, Horace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 uhhh I didn't even give her the drops either, I gave them to pent because his magic growth sucks I honestly don't know how to explain it, I didn't even notice it when I was playing at least it was on a unit that doesn't really do anything for the rest of the game anyway, and it was skill. Technically, she could still have 24 skill at level 5 promoted, so it isn't an illegal value, but it still kind of bugs me that it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Dynamic growths maybe? Probably not, but this is certainly an odd event. We'll all have to rig +2 stat level-ups as the norm now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qjVeqsQnaM&feature=youtu.be chapter 32 in 3 turns not a whole lot to say here, coulda got renault but lazy oh also that's my facebook beeping in the background, sorry about that. Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 and 32x https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH8FDKHvq54&feature=youtu.be yeahh don't expect final tonight, i'm pretty tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) horace, i think you might be able to 2-turn chapter 32, but i don't know if you need someone with 28 mag or not. anyway here's my theoryFE: formation: - 28 mag staffer (staffer A) starts in the far right position - priscilla starts in one of the positions 2 tiles away from the far right - in addition to heath, you need probably both falcoknights turn 1 PP: - rescue hector with heath - dance heath with nils - use rescue on heath with priscilla, rescuing heath to a tile just on the edge of staffer A's movement - with staffer A, warp heath as far as possible - drop hector 19 tiles from the gate and move heath as far as possible turn 2 PP: - warp staffer A with staffer B (i think staffer B needs min. 11 range) - use rescue on a falcoknight with priscilla - trade chain warp from staffer B to staffer A with both falcoknights - warp hector with staffer A as far as possible - ORKO limstella with heath - seize gate with hector Edited September 12, 2014 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 dynamic growth rates are the only explanation that comes to mind but I didn't think that they existed in the GBA games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yeah, I think you're right actually, I think i'll redo it, I didn't really think too much about it. Canas has 28 magic beforehand, so its possible. I'll redo it tomorrow or later tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 How many turns do you think Light will take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) 2 for the first part, 1 for the dragon. Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQNzUYRSSs&feature=youtu.be chapter 32 redone using dondon's strat I also reuploaded 32x for continuations' sake, won't bother linking, its the exact same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) aaaaand im done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27AZF4j_VnA&feature=youtu.be Nergal's part in 2 turns, dragon in 1. I'll upload an epilogue video tomorrow, too tired to do it tonight. Units that are absolutely required for this run: Hector, Ninils, Eliwood, Athos, Priscilla, Canas, Heath, Pent/Erk, Marcus, Vaida, Kent/Sain (promoted in Lyn mode), Kent/Sain (not promoted in Lyn Mode), Fiora, Florina, Legault, Rath, Lowen, Isadora, Hawkeye, Oswin, Matthew. Any other units I guess can be used, but I don't think this run would be replicateable without any of the above. When I upload the epilogue video tomorrow i'll post more thoughts on individual units. I dunno if i'll do another LTC in the future, this one was pretty time consuming and i'm having less and less of it as time goes on. Someday i'll finish my ideal FE8 clear perhaps. I'm not too interested in games outside FE7/8/11 as far as LTC goes though, so we'll see how things go. Espinosa was sitting on 163 turns after Chapter 30, and I think he'd get theoretical counts of 12, 6, 3, 1, and 3 for the rest of the game (since his team wouldn't be able to 2 turn VoD) so this run was 9 turns faster - a slight improvement at the very least. I'd like to thank everyone who followed this and commented and helped out, especially: - Espinosa, I used his run as reference on many accounts, definately helped a lot. I know he hasn't been around for a few months, but I thought i'd do it anyway - lapogne36 of youtube for the Chapter 20 strategy - dondon for the chapter 32 strategy - somebody else that I probably forgot about that should say something if I forgot them - oh yeah, and myself, for finishing a playthrough topic in 3 months NEW RECORD Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisya Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nice job I was impressed by all of them special tactics, watched most of them (except the defense chapters). Seems to have taken a lot of work and planning. Also: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 http://prntscr.com/4m5g9e Did anyone else catch this? Seriously what the fuck Fiora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I'm going to rewatch every single one of these and find how many +2s there are (or if they're only Fiora). Weird stuff man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 horace's fiora is just jealous that she isn't heath regardless i doubt anyone here questions horace's authenticity, and a "very good job" is in order. and i'm glad that i managed to come up with something! that's quite hard when horace covers most of the good strats already. now you owe me a favor for cog :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elieson Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yea, Horace's credibility is only second to yours, and I'd be more apt to believe that the game funk'd up over Horace feeding Fiora natural growth enhancements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irysa Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Holy fuck you let Marcus kill the Dragon. You are a baller of maximum capacity Horace. Great job! Edited September 12, 2014 by Irysa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekkah Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Amazing run, Horace! I'm especially impressed you managed to find uses for Eliwood in HHM, a unit almost everyone has given up on in recent years. While the run is heavy on RNG manipulation I still find the strats used very clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yea, Horace's credibility is only second to yours, and I'd be more apt to believe that the game funk'd up over Horace feeding Fiora natural growth enhancements it's also only fiora that has thus far been observed to get +2s, isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) ive still been thinking about that, and fiora got +2 like refa said again in the arena? The only time I actually hacked the rom was turning off the fog of war in Living Legend when trying to figure things out there, so unless that fucks things up, I dunno what to say. and if i were giving +2's to units I don't know why i'd make it so painfully obvious. Feel free to check elsewhere, its not like the odd growths there affected the outcome, Fiora never entered battle after then anyway. I'm thinking it has to be some sort of emulation issue or something. if you give me the save dondon i'll take a look either today or monday, Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) i'll PM it to you when i get home. one way to check is to give people the saves and try to repeat the observation on a different rom. if the inputs are consistent, the RNG frame should remain the same. i think it's highly unlikely that the +2s are natural, but we can't discount the possibility that +2s can be rigged with sub-100 growths. Edited September 12, 2014 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yea, Horace's credibility is only second to yours, and I'd be more apt to believe that the game funk'd up over Horace feeding Fiora natural growth enhancements :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) unfourtunately I only have a save as far back as chapter 32, so I don't think that's an option unless someone really wants to play from Chapter 20 again lol. Also for the people who did the poll, the correct answers were Canas for most victories, (surprised me too) and Hector for most battles. Edited September 12, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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