Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 People who I think are town: Prims: Voted for Paperblade Day 1 and didn't jump on the Randa wagon. Beli: Voted by Marth when he was exposed as mafia (not a good idea for mafia to give out fellow scum). There's a possibility that it could be a WIFOM strategy though. To bolded: As bad as the Randa wagon was imo, I don't think this means town. There were what, 3 of the 4 confirmed scum on the Randa wagon, I would expect the others to be elsewhere. To Marth's vote on Belisarius. It bothers me a lot. Marth was for sure dying, he was being bussed hardcore by scum!bud Refa, they knew he was gone. Why vote anyone? Can't decide of meant to actually direct attention towards Beli or not, and why. On topic of Poly. Would not lynch because claiming vanilla as assumed last scum or as SK is a poor choice with a claimed tracker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Something of note. Shin was pushed by both Refa(Day 1) and Cam(Day 2, though not through votes or anything since Marth vote was happening). Still reading town, would not lynch. I want to believe in obv!town Prims, I really do. But there are little things here and there that keep me from believing he really is obv!town. Also its really hard to be active when nothing is going on in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 who do you want to lynch today then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thats the hard part isn't it. To me theres literally no difference in lynching Rein/Juliette, Bear, Scorri because I can't remember anything from any of them and even when I look it up. So maybe just arbitrarily pick one. I'll go read FFM and see if he is lynch worthy or not. I've been mixing his, Randa's, and Poly's posts in my mind all game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 So I read Prims and decided I don't actually think he's scum. At this point I'm probably going to end up POE'ing who I think the scumteam is :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Who not to lynch: Rapier, Shin, Poly, Blitz, Weapons Medium lynching potential: Bear, Kirshe, FFM ,Prims Would be fine with lynching: Scorri, Belisarius, Rein/Juliette ##Vote:Rein/Juliette Pretty much for just being the least active. Bear says content to come. FFM says scum reads to come. Scorri needs a chance to figure out whats happening but has at least been here this phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Also @ Kirsche, Why would you prefer my lynch over those who have been inactive the whole game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkirsche Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Because you're scum on gut and also inactive whereas the others are just inactive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Me inactive for this phase worse than those who have been inactive the entire game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Sorry, I fell asleep. :< Now to follow up with my scumreads... Shin - Weird Rapier vote and general wishywashiness in Day 1, along with being persistent with his Randa vote. None of the confirmed scum seemed to have voted for him on Day 1 either which is kinda suspect. Also I'm reading Beli as town so there's that. I would rather target inactives though because Shin has actually been contributing instead of coasting by. Juliette/Rein - Bad Randa vote and general inactivity. Poly/Candeloro - Back-and-forth between Randa (confirmed town) and Prims (who I'm reading as town) on Day 1 and general inactivity. Not putting much stock in his Town Vanilla claim because it sounds like an easy claim to make that doesn't require much explanation. Also call this bad meta or whatever but Poly has been subbing out of a lot of games recently due to real-life issues and I think the only reason why he's stayed this long was because he has shown interest in being scum along with Refa before and he finally got his chance in this game. *shrug* Voting Poly because Juliette/Rein/Shin can easily be vigged ##Vote: Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Voting Poly because Juliette/Rein/Shin can easily be vigged ummm vig is dead? Unless you think there is an alternate nk role? There is certainly room for an odd or even night nk role but there has been 3 attempts both nights so I'm not seeing this. To be honest Rein should be modkilled. Six days without so much as a hi is inexcusable and disrespectful to everyone. What are the usual modkill rules here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 and Strawman has two posts yesterday why are we calling him inactive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belisarius Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 better question: What are your definitions of inactive? (this is directed to those who called Straw inactive, and to Straw who called himself inactive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Wait, SB was the vig? Crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Who not to lynch: Rapier, Shin, Poly, Blitz, Weapons Medium lynching potential: Bear, Kirshe, FFM ,Prims Would be fine with lynching: Scorri, Belisarius, Rein/Juliette this is basically my list except replace me with strawman @Mods: Requesting time+votals. atm I want to just hammer an inactive and be done with it, discussion is at a standstill and no protective role has flipped while the scum strongman/hijacker have so we should have a Blitz result tomorrow which will help us out. It also means the remaining actives can read during the night phase and post content once the day starts meaning we don't waste phase time waiting on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I don't think I am inactive overall, I'm just using Kirsche's terms that he used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Strawman isn't inactive at all but his activity dropped off at the start of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Actually, damn, I just had a thought. Rein seems to be some sort of backup: The denizens of the Stadium of Light awaken to the sound of an announcement; "NOW IT'S REIN TIME 8]"HOWEVER if he were a scum backup, why would he announce in that situation when he could backup Marf's strongman for a clean kill on Blitz? Only justification I can think of would be him getting multiple backups in one night as scum backup, or not being able to gravedig his scumbuddies. Rein pls exist and claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Sorry, I fell asleep. :< Now to follow up with my scumreads... Shin - Weird Rapier vote and general wishywashiness in Day 1, along with being persistent with his Randa vote. None of the confirmed scum seemed to have voted for him on Day 1 either which is kinda suspect. Also I'm reading Beli as town so there's that. I would rather target inactives though because Shin has actually been contributing instead of coasting by. Juliette/Rein - Bad Randa vote and general inactivity. Poly/Candeloro - Back-and-forth between Randa (confirmed town) and Prims (who I'm reading as town) on Day 1 and general inactivity. Not putting much stock in his Town Vanilla claim because it sounds like an easy claim to make that doesn't require much explanation. Also call this bad meta or whatever but Poly has been subbing out of a lot of games recently due to real-life issues and I think the only reason why he's stayed this long was because he has shown interest in being scum along with Refa before and he finally got his chance in this game. *shrug* Voting Poly because Juliette/Rein/Shin can easily be vigged ##Vote: Poly To bolded: What? Didn't Refa vote Shin D1? And Refa pushed his vote decently too. Also why would Scum!Poly claim vanilla if we assume theres only the 1 scum left? (or is this a poor assumption?) Being the only person to make the kill with a claimed tracker leaves him wide open to being caught. And we know the last mafia isn't the redirector because that was Cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 To bolded: What? Didn't Refa vote Shin D1? And Refa pushed his vote decently too. Also why would Scum!Poly claim vanilla if we assume theres only the 1 scum left? (or is this a poor assumption?) Being the only person to make the kill with a claimed tracker leaves him wide open to being caught. And we know the last mafia isn't the redirector because that was Cam. Wait, Refa did vote Shin? ...So he did. Shin's seeming a bit townier now. Of course, Refa could have voted Shin so that not all scum members were on the Randa wagon. He could have gotten a lot of town-cred if Shin had been the one to get lynched too, so that's a possibility. You do make a good point about Poly, I guess. Scumminess - 10 That pretty much leaves Rein/Juliette. ##Unvote ##Vote: Rein/Juliette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 That's L-2 by my count although I still want full votals. Rein where are you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 ##Unvote I kinda dismissed/forgot about the whole Rein announcer thing at phase start, but I agree with Prims that answers would be nice. Unvote is to keep people from hammering unnecessarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponsofMassConstruction Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Imo, R/J should just get modkilled if they don't post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I feel like non-phase-ending modkills alter the game too much tbh. I'd rather them be force-subbed or something if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Bear Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 ##Vote: Rein, Yeah I'm down with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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