Weebos Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Is there a link to the actual direct video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feplus Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) You've already claimed contradicts the goals of Nohr. Which was to give the player a more challenging campaign with limited resources. From what we've seen nothing we've seen in the footage really does that. Here's what we know about My Castle: 1. It is present in both Nohr and Hoshido. 2. Units can train for experience and gold. 3. Units can purchase items and weapons in advance. This includes many weapons that can be purchased without limit. 4. Capsule Monsters can be fed, trained, and used in battle. 5. Supports and character bonds (powerful from a gameplay perspectives) can be facilitated here. All of that contradicts Nohr's design goals. It makes limited resources much less of an issue. It significantly reduces challenge. It undermines the linear feel of traditional Fire Emblem progression. The one thing to hold out for is that My Castle functions very differently in Nohr than it does in Hoshido. Which, as of writing, we have no reason to believe. Edited May 31, 2015 by feplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Is there a link to the actual direct video? 'Ey. Well, that's just the FE part which is what I assumed you wanted. Edited May 31, 2015 by Tryhard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRTJR Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 While the face petting is weird, the rest is slightly emphasizing elements that were already present in the series prior. Arguments on which pairings have been a thing since FE4. ...Still WTF is up with the Pikemon Amiie stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroMystic Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 The Marriage system has been relevant ever since FE4. It's just not since Awakening that they brought it back in full force. The only thing different now is the developers are embracing that side of the fandom. Also, I've been playing FE ever since Blazing Sword came out in America. I have a waifu for every FE game (best waifu ever is Marcia). While I admit a lot of this stuff is hilariously silly, there's not enough information here to make a justifiable assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuvarkz Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Here's what we know about My Castle: 1. It is present in both Nohr and Hoshido. 2. Units can train for experience and gold. 3. Units can purchase items and weapons in advance. This includes many weapons that can be purchased without limit. 4. Capsule Monsters can be fed, trained, and used in battle. 5. Supports and character bonds (powerful from a gameplay perspectives) can be facilitated here. All of that contradicts Nohr's design goals. It makes limited resources much less of an issue. It significantly reduces challenge. It undermines the linear feel of traditional Fire Emblem progression. The one thing to hold out for is that My Castle functions very differently in Nohr than it does in Hoshido. Which, as of writing, we have no reason to believe. Actually, the alleged arena seemed to be dropping items, not gold or exp. Said items would probably be used for other stuff. We don't know how much support bonuses have been changed in this iteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feplus Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I didn't mention the arena. We see, on several occasions, units fighting within My Castle and earning experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagged Jagen Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 It just looks... what!? Face rubbing? Dressing up Camilla in a Jester hat and Fox tail? Bathinghouses? I really, really don't get it. But limited/more expensive weapons and raids are cool. But as people have said, this is looking more like a social game and less like a Fire Emblem game. Granted, I like social games, but I play FE for the strategy. Either way, amiibo support is cool and we may find out more on the strategy aspects by Tuesday/Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Here's what we know about My Castle: 1. It is present in both Nohr and Hoshido. 2. Units can train for experience and gold. 3. Units can purchase items and weapons in advance. This includes many weapons that can be purchased without limit. 4. Capsule Monsters can be fed, trained, and used in battle. 5. Supports and character bonds (powerful from a gameplay perspectives) can be facilitated here. All of that contradicts Nohr's design goals. It makes limited resources much less of an issue. It significantly reduces challenge. It undermines the linear feel of traditional Fire Emblem progression. The one thing to hold out for is that My Castle functions very differently in Nohr than it does in Hoshido. Which, as of writing, we have no reason to believe. I dont think we really know if it is exactly the same between the games we moslty saw footage of Hoshido i believe. Also are you really complaining about unlimited basic weapons? The game would have pretty much that anyway as everybody would have their default equipment anyway, all it really seems to be doing is letting you not use somebodies higher rank weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feplus Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I dont think we really know if it is exactly the same between the games we moslty saw footage of Hoshido i believe. Also are you really complaining about unlimited basic weapons? The game would have pretty much that anyway as everybody would have their default equipment anyway, all it really seems to be doing is letting you not use somebodies higher rank weapon. We don't know if the versions are the same. We also have no reason to believe the versions are drastically different. Yes, unlimited basic weapons are a problem. They make weapon management a non-consideration. This was one of the high points of Genealogy and Gaiden's systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebos Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 'Ey. Well, that's just the FE part which is what I assumed you wanted. I meant the Direct proper, but thanks anyway. I found it, for anybody else looking for it: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nintendo_direct/20150531/sp/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 On the bright side, it looks like Hoshido still have defend missions (inside My Castle at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) We don't know if the versions are the same. We also have no reason to believe the versions are drastically different. Yes, unlimited basic weapons are a problem. They make weapon management a non-consideration. This was one of the high points of Genealogy and Gaiden's systems. I still don't see how it is a problem. Weapon management for basic weapons is nearly always a non consideration, gaiden you always had a weapon, 4 the only downside to using a more powerful weapon is the cost to repair it, As long as you have money your fine plus you normally stuck with what you got or started with anyway plus if presumably has free trading which the lack of that was one of the reasons 4s system worked well imo. And no fire emblem game that i have played have i ever ran out of basic weapons nor a conceivable chance of doing so. Edited May 31, 2015 by goodperson707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeathby2 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) I will repeat the question i think somebody asked asked you earlier. What series have you been playing? I seem to remember marriage in fire emblem before. I don't mind that marriage is in fire emblem however the causal fanbase loved it and now IS is adding in many features that appeal casuals and is now a big focus for the devs. Furthermore, what concerns me is that before fire emblem awakening, there wasn't any MU's which were pretty much you in the game and the MU could marry ANYONE that wa the opposite gender. In other words now you could have yourself in fire emblem marry anyone you wished. Unlike fe4 which let you marry off the characters in the game. Edited May 31, 2015 by Thedeathby2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodperson707 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 ^ you have never seen FE tactician fanfics have you? Sure its not canon that mark could marry people but you were still in the game and people took advantage of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroMystic Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I don't mind that marriage is in fire emblem however the causal fanbase loved it and now IS is adding in many features that appeal casuals and is now a big focus for the devs. Furthermore, what concerns me is that before fire emblem awakening, there wasn't any MU's which were pretty much you in the game and the MU could marry ANYONE that wa the opposite gender. In other words now you could have yourself in fire emblem marry anyone you wished. Unlike fe4 which let you marry off the characters in the game. FE7 had Mark (the only person relevant to Lyn). FE12 had Chris. This is not a new thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feplus Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Honestly, what is up with the dreadful reading comprehension in this thread? "Furthermore, what concerns me is that before fire emblem awakening, there wasn't any MU's which were pretty much you in the game and the MU could marry ANYONE that wa the opposite gender. In other words now you could have yourself in fire emblem marry anyone you wished." Did you just miss this part? I don't recall Mark or Chris being able to marry anyone you wished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeathby2 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Kris has a terrible reputation and Mark is hardly a thing, if course fanfiction is an exception. Also the village in fire emblem if doesn't feel like fire emblem. Going around giving accessories to your soldiers, feeding a pet dragon, petting people's faces, and making new shops,isn't things fire emblem should have. All this village stuff makes fire emblem if feel like it isn't a fire emblem game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Kris could marry a handful of people. (I'm not trying to disprove your statement) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neoleo21 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 This is amusing, I love that there's an actual base in the game with actual purpose. As for the fe amie whatever, I'll just ignore it. But the baths with group supports and stuff is cool. It definitely has a different feel to the other side of the game, I think I can appreciate it for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Lavellan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Am I just forgetting someone or is this guy new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Saizou without his mask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeathby2 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) That's one of the three ninjas. Edit: Ninja'd Edited May 31, 2015 by Thedeathby2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRTJR Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 FE12 female MUs could marry Marth, and other characters, the number in awakening is likely due to the fact it was ment to be a cap stone on the series. So yes, something that was present before Awakening that was present in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Lavellan Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Saizou without his mask Oh wow. It is weird to see him without his mask. Thanks for pointing that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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