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i decided to just modkill this really long shitposting derail so carry on i guess

tryhard's post was good but once all the shitposts were gone it was alone so i just decided to kill it too

sorry tryhard i still love you man

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he'll probably wait till iowa/nh and hope the polls were wrong.

last summer i was sure this was going to be a bush vs clinton election. now if only the second part was wrong too.

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why hasnt he dropped out yet?

family pride, i'm guessing.

and yeah trump's entry into the gop primary has made everything about the election too weird and hard to predict

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It doesn't matter how much corporate backing a crappy canidate has, at the end of the day he's still a crappy canidate. Jeb Bush is proof of this.

My gut tells me Marco Rubio is the only repulican with a legit shot at getting in the white house. Let me run down the list real quick:

Rubio is decently experienced in politics and he seems to be the most moderate canidate. The one who plays it safe usually wins in the end. Being Cuban helps a little too.

Paul is too Libertarian for the very much Authoritarian religious right to jump on board with him(unless he's willing to compromise on a lot of his core values).

Trump is too divisive within the party. The republican establishment REALLY hates him so at best he'll split too many votes.

Carson seems like a decent guy. People would not want him as their president however. We also never elect people without political experience like him.

Cruz seems to have also pissed off a lot of the more center leaning republicans.

Walker I'm unfamiliar with. He might be a long shot.

Everyone else doesn't matter.

The Democratic race is much more straightforward. Unless Sanders pulls a rabit out of his hat, Hillary will win because she has more coporate backing and she will drown Sanders in ads. It's a shame too because Sanders would suite the democratic party better.

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I don't think Rubio has much of a chance either. He might not be as cartoony as Trump, but he kowtows the hard right Republican platform, especially in abortion, that's not going to make him appealing to swing voters in a general election. Everything that lets him get away clean now isn't going to help him in a general.

Also your post reads like it was written back in August or something. Walker, seriously?

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I admited to knowing nothing about Walker. A pbs story I saw a few weeks ago said he was surging but I guess not.

You HAVE to pander to the radical Rublican right to win the primary. Moderates dont always vote in primarys so kowtowing to the far right is necessary. It's a big flaw in our electorial system to be honest. By the time someone gets to the general election they've shot themself in the foot trying to win the primary.

He only needs to slightly moderate his stance on abortion honestly. Romney was popular enough in 2012 while being mostly anti-abortion(except in a few cases). If he's going to stumble somewhere, it'll probably be on immigration.

Will he probably lose to Hillary(or Sanders) in the general? Yes, but he's the only one with a remote chance. The Rebulicans have an incredibly weak field of canidates this year.

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i imagine it's like a window into stormfront

It was. . .worse. Some people really do want to watch the world burn.

As for me. . .I'm more worried that there's a base that AGREES with what Trump is spewing out.

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Well fucking hell. I might have to be actually serious about voting for the Moonarchist Party. Jesus Christ, fuck decentralization. There is so much to be angry about in all of these candidates, except maybe Sanders, but he isn't going to win because the American electorate have no idea what they need. Incidentally, if you want a picture of a Trump administration Czech President Miloš Zeman would be a good place to start.

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Lol Rubio

Doesn't that break the balance of powers though? Flagrantly disregarding a perfectly legitimate decision by trying to overturn it with new Justices? I know new Justices get appointed, but how often do they completely overturn something like that.

As a whole, I think of the war of gay marriage as the exact same as the war of Brown v. the Board of Education. Certain people futilely fight it, yet eventually homophobic people will likely end up in the same light racists are seen today if that isn't already about to happen. It's actually really interesting how similar the two times were. When the Supreme Court is right it seems to really make people mad for whatever reason.

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Lol Rubio

Doesn't that break the balance of powers though? Flagrantly disregarding a perfectly legitimate decision by trying to overturn it with new Justices? I know new Justices get appointed, but how often do they completely overturn something like that.

This is nothing new; threatening to pack the Supreme Court has been standard tactics since FDR. And Bernie Sanders has committed to nominating Justices that would overturn Citizens United.

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I don't hate Donald Trump as much as I hate the Republican establishment, simply because the Republican establishment is so woefully inadequate that they deserve what Trump is doing to them. His campaign will fizzle out eventually anyway, or so I continue trying to reassure myself. Speaking as a conservative I maintain what we need is one of the moderate midwestern governors, but when was the last time my camp got what it wanted out of a President? (Answer: Reagan, maybe Bush Sr.?)

Hillary Clinton is a miserable choice but she'll probably be more competent than Barrack Obama. Perhaps that's a low bar but I prefer to look on the bright side of things. With that in mind it's worth noting that Bernie Sanders would be the lamest duck who ever quacked on behalf of the failures of continental European socialism, but I can guarantee that no one wants him less than the DNC. Why put a sure thing like the presidential election in jeopardy by nominating someone who might lose? The Republicans are weak enough that Sanders might win (depending on who the Republican is) but Hillary Clinton is most certainly not.

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