Leif Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I'm really liking how the choice really seems to bring out different sides in the characters. I remember that being one of the key points they talked about when the game was first unveiled a year ago, but the localization seems to really be bringing out those different sides of people when faced with certain circumstances. I'm excited for this too since I'm getting Tactics Ogre vibes from the localization of the characters (like Ryoma), which I REALLY appreciate! I can't wait follow the story. I'm also seeing a ton of Fates ads on Youtube at the moment, which makes me smile. Edited February 8, 2016 by Leif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriotto Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 From what i heard i like Zero's voice, however we don't have any info yet about how Zero is localizated, and i;m AFRAID what they did with him, or rather they changed his sadistic nature. :s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asakim Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'm excited for this too since I'm getting Tactics Ogre vibes from the localization of the characters (like Ryoma), which I REALLY appreciate! I can't wait follow the story. I'm also seeing a ton of Fates ads on Youtube at the moment, which makes me smile. Talk about a change in personality depending on route choices. Some of those people could become downright vile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Talk about a change in personality depending on route choices. Some of those people could become downright vile.To be fair to the sibilings, betrayal tends to have a pretty nasty effect on people.Some people can become very bitter and vengeful because of betrayal. Edited February 8, 2016 by Water Mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DanMan Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I liked most of conquest!chapter 6, except Ryouma telling everyone to attack Corrin because he really likes his 1v1s. Like in both Hoshi!6 and Nohr!26 wher e he doesn't step in to help/waits a little before that can be attributed to his stubborn samurai 1v1 pride and not interrupting another fighter's 1v1 but now it's ??? feels really OOC. More ruthless in general is cool but it doesn't really have to sacrifice pretty big parts of his character for that. On the Sakura point, while in a vaccum I like American Sakura's general character, I feel like Japanese Sakura's social anxiety-yet lots of inner strength is pretty good characterization and should've been kept. Considering we have a rather large female cast and a lot of them are confident, battle-hardened warriors (I'm planning to write a compare and constrast between Hinoka, Hana, and Rinka at some point, hell) someone who's shy but still very strong is a good contrast to many of the women who are already very confident and outwardly tough, and we don't need everyone to be super confident all the time. Sakura stands up for herself plenty of times even with her social anxiety, and even takes up a weapon against Kamui when they invade--she's not a doormat by any means. Ryoma is probably really ticked off; it makes sense he'd lose his cool in a situation such as that. Edited February 8, 2016 by The DanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Are they getting rid of the racism in general or was it only Saizo's initial racism that was changed? It could be just Takumi being a jerk but in the stream of a Conquest chapter he's shown to be pretty racist to Nohrians. Hinoka also calls the Nohrian siblings ''Nohrian scum'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s07195 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 With all these changes that seem to most people for the better, it seems Japanese 3DS only players like me will only have the... worse version when it comes to story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Mage Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Ryoma is probably really ticked off; it makes sense he'd lose his cool in a situation such as that. Ryoma's anger is actually kind of interesting, when you take in account the fact that he knows that Corrin is not really blood-related to them. Ryoma knows that Sumeragi died trying to protect a child that wasn't even his. In Ryoma's eyes, Corrin is pretty much spitting at Sumeragi's sacrifice by siding with Nohr. While we're at it, the fact Corrin sides with Nohr could also be seem as insulting Mikoto's sacrifice as well. To Ryoma, Corrin's being a incredibly ungrateful bastard by siding with Nohr. No wonder he's angry and bloodthirsty. Edited February 8, 2016 by Water Mage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HF Makalov Fanboy Kai Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 With all these changes that seem to most people for the better, it seems Japanese 3DS only players like me will only have the... worse version when it comes to story... "but you will be able to actually pet your waifus so its a even trade!" - said nobody ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Ryoma's anger is actually kind of interesting, when you take in account the fact that he knows that Corrin is not really blood-related to them. Ryoma knows that Sumeragi died trying to protect a child that wasn't even his. In Ryoma's eyes, Corrin is pretty much spitting at Sumeragi's sacrifice by siding with Nohr. While we're at it, the fact Corrin sides with Nohr could also be seem as insulting Mikoto's sacrifice as well. To Ryoma, Corrin's being a incredibly ungrateful bastard by siding with Nohr. No wonder he's angry and bloodthirsty. May I ask where Ryoma said he knew that Corrin was not related to them by blood? Was it mentioned in the story or the supports since all teh siblings got a letter in the S supports (But even then, I think they said they were only half siblings). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostface233 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 May I ask where Ryoma said he knew that Corrin was not related to them by blood? Was it mentioned in the story or the supports since all teh siblings got a letter in the S supports (But even then, I think they said they were only half siblings). He reveals his knowledge in the S support with a FEM!Avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Dozel Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 May I ask where Ryoma said he knew that Corrin was not related to them by blood? Was it mentioned in the story or the supports since all teh siblings got a letter in the S supports (But even then, I think they said they were only half siblings). It's brought up in Revelations and when you S support any of the Hoshido siblings. Ryoma in particular just says he knew all along, instead of the premonition that everyone else gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Oh I see thanks. Damn poor Ryoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auro Astum Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 So far I really like alot of what I have seen with the localized version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etrurian emperor Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) On the subject of that topic and Ryoma, I actually find it quite morally reprehensible of Ryoma that he insist the Nohr siblings who raised Corrin for far longer than he ever did are not his ''true'' siblings. The rest of the siblings have a valid reason to reach this conclusion but Ryoma KNOWS He and his siblings are not related to Corrin either Ryoma can call siding with Norh a betrayal to Corrin's mother and he would not be wrong about it but thinking Corrin owes him any more than he does the Nohrian siblings is just hypocritical. Its one of the reasons I'm so sour about being able to marry the Hoshido siblings. What is needed to make that acceptable breaks the very theme of blood vs loyalty the game builds itself around. In this case I find it making Ryoma less sympathetic than he should be as well. Edited February 8, 2016 by Etrurian emperor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Part of me makes me wonder if it's really intentional that it's really a thing because I don't think it's really meant for Ryouma to be characterized that way, and that the sibling marriages are likely added late in development without regard for their character prior. It's just so contrived and really fucks up the theme that advertising really pushed for. If it's the case that it's indeed a fanservice tack-on I'm just more pissed about how it's handledthan if it's something intentional about Ryouma-considering it's done in so little consideration for any of the Hoshisibs characterizations and means utterly jack shit in terms of actual plot importance. You don't find out about it at all until you make that choice to go incest and fuck one of your blood sibs, so I feel in a way it's just to make the player feel better. Given the rest of Ryouma's characterization and the extreme lack of care it's dealt with, I'm inclined to believe the support writers for this section just didn't pay attention at all. I wouldn't be surprised--it's a different company handling the supports and there's some of them that have such utter disregard for established character I'm still salty Just another day in S supports being detrimental to characterization and nothing is new. Like I get why they'd have to outsource supports to a completely different company but can some of those support writers actually, idk, read the script? Have some consistency? It's not just Ryouma that's handled without enough care, but a lot of the cast too I have read whatever supports that are translated and the discrepancy between the ones that seem to know what they're doing (most of oboro and leon's supports) and the ones that don't are huge But yeah thanks for reminding me of that now I'm actually pissed off (not at you, at the support writer who did this) Edited February 8, 2016 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyknightXi Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 ...I'd think that having to outsource the supports would be a sign to IS that they're overdoing it with support amounts. Just what kind of sword is the fandom at large hanging over them? Well, if we're lucky, Treehouse will have tempered much of the quandary in question. But IS may want to retract to Sacred Stones level of support profusion or thereabouts for the next installment, to avoid the issues with outsourcing. (Yes, I realize this will put a thorn in wide-range waifu/hasubando-seeking. Thy point?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yeah I agree, Even with characters with a lot of good supports sometimes the content can repeat a bit and there's characters who just have no real chemistry between them forced to talk because the game's forcing them to fuck I try not to hold S rank bullshit over most characters if I find the characterization inconsistent with the rest of their character, because of a lot of that shit just had to be contrived to even work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyknightXi Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I know I felt that the Stahl*Nowi S-rank felt out-of-place, juxtaposed with the C-A set--and that's probably one of MANY such in Awakening. Probably a side-effect of having to make the A-ranks work in both strictly platonic and at-least-partially-romantic fashions. Mayhaps it's time for IS to jettison the children conceit, at least with regard to the wide range in Awakening and Fates. Because that seems to be the primary motive behind the wide-range S-rank capability. EDIT: Now that I think of it, a better idea would have been to preclude Corrin S-ranks with BOTH Hoshido and Nohr royalty. Being raised among non-blood siblings will still prime one to avoid considering them for romantic relations; that's generally how the developing mind works, a side effect of built-in anti-incest failsafes. Those who still want one of the royals for their waifu/hasubando should be able to settle for using the non-avatar unit they identify most strongly with. (I know I'm feeling daunted by the prospect of playing Revelation matchmaker...For one thing, how many Hoshido*Nohr romances would be a realistic number. BESIDES zero.) I suppose I'm in the minority for refusing to utilize the avatar as an extension of myself, but again, I see myself as the producer, not the lead actor. Edited February 8, 2016 by SkyknightXi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) I know I felt that the Stahl*Nowi S-rank felt out-of-place, juxtaposed with the C-A set--and that's probably one of MANY such in Awakening. Probably a side-effect of having to make the A-ranks work in both strictly platonic and at-least-partially-romantic fashions. Mayhaps it's time for IS to jettison the children conceit, at least with regard to the wide range in Awakening and Fates. Because that seems to be the primary motive behind the wide-range S-rank capability. EDIT: Now that I think of it, a better idea would have been to preclude Corrin S-ranks with BOTH Hoshido and Nohr royalty. Being raised among non-blood siblings will still prime one to avoid considering them for romantic relations; that's generally how the developing mind works, a side effect of built-in anti-incest failsafes. Those who still want one of the royals for their waifu/hasubando should be able to settle for using the non-avatar unit they identify most strongly with. (I know I'm feeling daunted by the prospect of playing Revelation matchmaker...For one thing, how many Hoshido*Nohr romances would be a realistic number. BESIDES zero.) I suppose I'm in the minority for refusing to utilize the avatar as an extension of myself, but again, I see myself as the producer, not the lead actor. They could at least take a break from children-it doesn't have to be in every single FE and the implementation of children is just super-contrived this time. At least Lucina's thing is somewhat relevant to the overall awakening plot, and FE4 had an entire proper timeskip. Time chambers just make deadbeats out of the entire army. The pairing optimizer in my sig is there to help out making hard pairing decisions! I wrote it as a weekend project because I like code a lot I'm going to just use kamui as a resource anyway because I care about characters I actually like doing well Edited February 8, 2016 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Flannel is Keaton. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cau563qUAAAnLod.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Flannel is Keaton. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cau563qUAAAnLod.jpg i am okay with this it sounds nice, and kaden and keaton that's cute i like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viberum Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Keaton is a very cute name guys. I really like it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywolfe Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Flannel is Keaton. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cau563qUAAAnLod.jpg Was I the only one to have immediate Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time flashbacks? Yes? ... Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosabers Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I like Kaden as a name much more now. Before I was just kinda eh about it. Was I the only one to have immediate Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time flashbacks? Yes?... Okay. Yes you were, mine flashback was Majora's Mask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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