ZemZem Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Rules (adapted from Fire Emblem RTUs) - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. You can troll a bit, but no WURMPLE HAS STRING SHOT 10/10. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. - Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a pokemon above 10 or below 0. - The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around 10 PM CST. - A pokemon being inferior relative to another pokemon does not explicitly reduce their rating. - We are rating ingame performance only, up until the Elite 4 is beaten the first time. - Evolution lines get condensed, so treat Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile all as one pokemon. - Pokemon that evolve through trades are accounted for. - A Pokemon's performance is to be judged by the game they are most prominent in (Example: Zangoose is to be judged by Pokemon Ruby standards.). Averages: Wurmple/Cascoon/Dustox: 1.67 Wurmple/Silcoon/Beautifly: 3.50 Poochyena/Mightyena: 3.95 Lotad/Lombre/Ludicolo: 5.69 Seedot/Nuzleaf/Shiftry: 6.36 Zigzagoon/Linoone: 6.43 Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile: 8.36 Torchic/Combusken/Blaziken: 9.00 Mudkip/Marshstomp/Swampert: 9.77 Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 10/10, best TAS Pokemon Taillow is probably the first of the really great early birds, what with its access to Wing Attack early on. Does great against Brawly, but isn't super effective afterwards. Still, it's lighting fast and able to deal with the many grasses and bugs that normal trainers love to use. Endeavor is great, too, along with Guts. Get it poisoned and have it Facade its way through the E4! 8/10, but with +1 bias for being the first great early bird becomes 9/10. Oh, and it you want to see Thunder Armor in REAL action, go and watch that TAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 5.94 for Pikachu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Rules (adapted from Fire Emblem RTUs) - Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted. If somebody else said what you want to already, quote them explicitly. You can troll a bit, but no CATERPIE HAS STRING SHOT 10/10. +/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly. - Votes are made out of 10. You cannot rate a pokemon above 10 or below 0. - The rating topic will be updated whenever I feel like it, but I will try to allow at least 24 hours for each topic. They will generally be updated at around 10 PM EST. - A pokemon being inferior relative to another pokemon does not explicitly reduce their rating. - We are rating ingame performance only, up until the Elite 4 is beaten the first time. - Evolution lines get condensed, so treat Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venasaur all as one pokemon. Weedle/Kakuna/Beedrill: 2.44 Ekans/Arbok: 2.57 Rattate/Raticate: 3.20 Pidgey/Pidgeotto/Pidgeot: 5.00 Caterpie/Metapod/Butterfree: 5.21 Pikachu/Raichu: 5.94 Spearow/Fearow: 6.21 Charmander/Charmeleon/Charizard: 7.80 Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venasaur: 8.25 Squirtle/Wartortle/Blastoise: 9.36 Never used this guy either. I need to use more pokemon. Edited June 24, 2012 by BigBangMeteor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 i don't care if this isn't the right gen but I BEAT WHITNEY FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH SANDSHREW BY SPAMMING SAND ATTACK 5/10 for somewhat early slash but slowww start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 10/10, best TAS Pokemon Taillow is probably the first of the really great early birds, what with its access to Wing Attack early on. Does great against Brawly, but isn't super effective afterwards. Still, it's lighting fast and able to deal with the many grasses and bugs that normal trainers love to use. Endeavor is great, too, along with Guts. Get it poisoned and have it Facade its way through the E4! 8/10, but with +1 bias for being the first great early bird becomes 9/10. Oh, and it you want to see Thunder Armor in REAL action, go and watch that TAS. This can be my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 7.5/10 Early joiner, can get Dig for stab, and has a decent physical movepool. Slash is also a nice move, and so are AA, Rock Slide, and BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 9/10 THUNDER ARMOUR! Also, has excellent synergy with Mudkip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ema Skye Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 It's cool if you missed Geodude in Mt. Moon and don't want to nab a Diglett/Dugtrio. It's level up movepool is tiny and weak (Slash is the best you're going to get). Its TM movepool is just wide enough to nab three more moves to go with Slash. 6.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Evolves fast, and does decent with Dig. Pretty tanky too, but having to rely on that EQ TM sucks big time. And hey, Brick Break means that it's pretty good at smashing Normals. 6/10, it really needs TMs BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyFireMage Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 9/10. Great start and middle, but tends to slightly lose usefulness around late-game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espinosa Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Great early on with lv. 13 Wing Attack, but poor coverage and base stats start to show later on, and even with Guts, there's not a whole lot Swellow is doing that somebody else isn't doing better. Brawley is its time to shine. 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Yeah, for a ground type it doesn't really get any stellar ground moves through level up. Its stats are good enough(the good defense plus good attack combo is nice), though it struggles early on as Sandshrew. 5.5+1.0 for bias because it is on my current team in the leafgreen play through I'm working on right now = 6.5 -.5 for only being in green = 6/10 (sorry of this is confusing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melonhead Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Good if you missed diglett. Sandslash is decent, but will most likely NOT make it past the 7th gym or so. 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightli Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Darn it why did I not know of this earlier Taillow is basically the prototype Starly. He's only got Wing Attack for Flying STAB, and Guts isn't as good as Intimidate, but the stats are good and it's an amazing candidate for Return. Also one of the best candidates for Fly in the entire game. EDIT: DUH RATING 9/10 Edited June 24, 2012 by Lightli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 and Guts isn't as good as Intimidate Silly Lightli, this entire video begs to differ: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightli Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Ah, the electric rodent, mascot of the series. It's okay. Electric SUCKS in Gen 1 in terms of gyms. Loses to Brock, is okay against Misty (have fun with Starmie though), is resisted by Surge and Eirika, is usable against Koga, sucks against Sabrina, is usable against Blaine, and is fail against Giovanni. Actually, scratch that, it's terrible. 3/10 for being good against Misty. IF by some miracle you get a Light Ball though, then it's a bit better if only because a doubled special attack is insane. 5/10 in that case because it's horrible defenses still mean it'll have a lot of trouble past mid-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_ Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Sort of sucky. 5 - 1 bias = 4/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Sorry guys, you're both late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Kids. You forgot. Venusaur evolves at lvl 32, the other starters reach final form at lvl 36. It's getting to max potential a bit sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venusaur Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Not to mention that you get Facade quite easily, which allows it to plow through Winona, Wallace/Juan, and much of the E4. Sure, it's something you have to prepare beforehand, but oh man is it effective. Edited June 25, 2012 by Venusaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 10/10, best TAS Pokemon Taillow is probably the first of the really great early birds, what with its access to Wing Attack early on. Does great against Brawly, but isn't super effective afterwards. Still, it's lighting fast and able to deal with the many grasses and bugs that normal trainers love to use. Endeavor is great, too, along with Guts. Get it poisoned and have it Facade its way through the E4! 8/10, but with +1 bias for being the first great early bird becomes 9/10. Oh, and it you want to see Thunder Armor in REAL action, go and watch that TAS. This is pretty much what I was thinking, so I'll take this as my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 8/10. Guts + Facade + STAB = Pain. It's also lightning fast. Aside from those, it gets Wing Attack early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Evolves fast, and does decent with Dig. Pretty tanky too, but having to rely on that EQ TM sucks big time. And hey, Brick Break means that it's pretty good at smashing Normals. 6/10, it really needs TMs BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZemZem Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Tallying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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