Lucıůs Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: My condolences. Seriously, −Atk is extremely bad on Clair. Yeah, it's a sad day indeed. I was kind of upset when I got her because I was really hoping for Roderick. Got even more depressed upon discovering her IV ._. Shame, I really like her art but I won't be using her anytime soon. She's just there to look pretty 18 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: Mae is bae, especially with a blade tome <3 Oh goodie! More reasons to spend all those Odin's I got from this banner! 13 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Hit and Run has the advantage of working even when the opponent cannot move onto the tile you're standing on (assuming they didn't die), which was a strategy used rather effectively by several players in the Camus Grand Hero Battle. I personally like Darg Back more since it could create more combos. Yeah Hit and Run can be good, but it's mostly useful for Fliers because of their ability to move over any terrain. It's too bad I don't have any other units that will benefit from Hit and Run though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Is there any point to threaten atk anymore? Attack ploy works at a better range and costs more sp meaning higher arena score :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lord Of Gems Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Hey, I'm back! Did anyone notice my absence? No? Ok..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordIvy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kiran said: Is there any point to threaten atk anymore? Attack ploy works at a better range and costs more sp meaning higher arena score :/ Well if you can't manage to pull Katrina threaten atk is definently the next best thing. :p But it also looks like it probably won't be great on particularly low res units like my -atk Ike with his 18 res who I've been running threaten atk on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Kiran said: Is there any point to threaten atk anymore? Attack ploy works at a better range and costs more sp meaning higher arena score :/ Yep. Threaten Atk works on tiles diagonal to the target, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kiran said: Is there any point to threaten atk anymore? Attack ploy works at a better range and costs more sp meaning higher arena score :/ I mean Attack Ploy only works if the opponent has lower res than you while Threaten Atk always work, so there's that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So if Threaten skills are you beating an enemy at a staring contest to lower their stats, what are Ploy skills? Like you're so terrifyingly powerful that low Res units can detect you from a distance? Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: So if Threaten skills are you beating an enemy at a staring contest to lower their stats, what are Ploy skills? Like you're so terrifyingly powerful that low Res units can detect you from a distance? Hide contents This is the best thing I've seen all morning even if it's better off in the Jokes and Memes thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Attack Ploy need Res ELIWOOD TIME? ELIWOOD TIME Actually Lloyd too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So I have a headache figuring who should I promote next? Here are my units: Spoiler Main objective is to promote someone ready to use/already invested, pretty much. Some thoughts: 1. Michalis - vanilla with swap and axebreaker 3. Needs good proc. 2. Camus - needs assist, proc and B skill. 3. Seliph - has Dragon Fang and Threaten Def 3. Needs positioning assist and better A skill. 4. Zephiel - has Pivot and Ward Armor. 5. Nino - has Glacies but needs better A skill and needs B skill. 6. Robin - has Swap and Swordbreaker 3, but needs Triangle Adept. 7. Stahl - has Luna and Hone Cavalry. 8. Tharja - has Ardent Sacrifice, Desperation 3 and Threaten Res 3. 9. Cherche - has proc (lol glimmer, can be replaced), Drag Back and Fortify Fliers. I have Barst/Raven for Brave Axe fodder. 10. Tiki - has Axebreaker 3, needs assist and better A skill. 11. Xander - has Draw Back, Bonfire and Ward Cavalry, but lacks good A skill and Quick Riposte. Any ideas? Halp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, MaskedAmpharos said: This is the best thing I've seen all morning even if it's better off in the Jokes and Memes thread I'll probably go dump it in the Echoes thread, but it was relevant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordIvy Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 @Quintessence 5* Michalis with bonfire is a wonderful sight to behold. If you want another sword lord Seliph is a nice heavy hitter, even if he is pretty slow without +spd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 32 minutes ago, Quintessence said: So I have a headache figuring who should I promote next? Here are my units: Reveal hidden contents Main objective is to promote someone ready to use/already invested, pretty much. Some thoughts: 1. Michalis - vanilla with swap and axebreaker 3. Needs good proc. 2. Camus - needs assist, proc and B skill. 3. Seliph - has Dragon Fang and Threaten Def 3. Needs positioning assist and better A skill. 4. Zephiel - has Pivot and Ward Armor. 5. Nino - has Glacies but needs better A skill and needs B skill. 6. Robin - has Swap and Swordbreaker 3, but needs Triangle Adept. 7. Stahl - has Luna and Hone Cavalry. 8. Tharja - has Ardent Sacrifice, Desperation 3 and Threaten Res 3. 9. Cherche - has proc (lol glimmer, can be replaced), Drag Back and Fortify Fliers. I have Barst/Raven for Brave Axe fodder. 10. Tiki - has Axebreaker 3, needs assist and better A skill. 11. Xander - has Draw Back, Bonfire and Ward Cavalry, but lacks good A skill and Quick Riposte. Any ideas? Halp! Your promoted units scream mage, which narrows the pool down to Nino, Robin, and Tharja. By color alone, I'd do Nino, since you're also missing a green unit besides Anna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 @Quintessence Camus all the way. He's a bonus unit in the next rotation and he has some great bases to go with his horse and Distant Counter Gradivus. If you can run Horse Emblem just give him Fury and Hone and he gets 57 / 42 offenses. Terrifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, DarkLordIvy said: @Quintessence 5* Michalis with bonfire is a wonderful sight to behold. If you want another sword lord Seliph is a nice heavy hitter, even if he is pretty slow without +spd. Yeah I've seen Michalis is pretty good with Bonfire but I don't have any fodder right now. Seliph would make Julia her best companion! Thing is I have a lot of infantry sword units right there :( 13 minutes ago, eclipse said: Your promoted units scream mage, which narrows the pool down to Nino, Robin, and Tharja. By color alone, I'd do Nino, since you're also missing a green unit besides Anna. the irony I'm all about mages and have few of them in Heroes . From the pool I'd take Tharja or Robin as I already have Julia and she's been wonders to me. wait you're telling me nino because of green hair 12 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: @Quintessence Camus all the way. He's a bonus unit in the next rotation and he has some great bases to go with his horse and Distant Counter Gradivus. If you can run Horse Emblem just give him Fury and Hone and he gets 57 / 42 offenses. Terrifying. Ah good point. How would this affect my arena score? I currently run askr siblings, julia and takumi, hit 4.8K+ and I'm on tier 18. If I promote Camus I'd run Camus, Reinhardt, Cecilia and Stahl, and Stahl is 4☆. Would I get a similar score, or would it be lower/higher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, KongDude said: What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. If you get +ATK she's a cheap, extended way to get a Cordelia Knock Off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, KongDude said: What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. Feathers, really. Est has one build and that build involves replacing her entire kit---nothing in her default is useful for SI. Edited June 14, 2017 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, KongDude said: What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. Defiant Res/Shove fodder? Seriously speaking she's pretty beast with Brave Lance set. I met a Whitewing team at the arena that wrecked me, and there was an Est with Brave Lance+, Death Blow 3 and Drag Back. I think Glacies was there too, so that might be an investment option if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Quintessence said: the irony I'm all about mages and have few of them in Heroes . From the pool I'd take Tharja or Robin as I already have Julia and she's been wonders to me. wait you're telling me nino because of green hair Tee-hee~! Just now, KongDude said: What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. She drastically improves with Darting Blow, especially on Flier Emblem. Her base Atk is tied with Cordelia/Hinoka, though she lacks their Speed. Her stupid-high Res means that she's perfect for Iceberg. If you ever get a +Spd one, try Iceberg/Darting Blow/Desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Quintessence said: Ah good point. How would this affect my arena score? I currently run askr siblings, julia and takumi, hit 4.8K+ and I'm on tier 18. If I promote Camus I'd run Camus, Reinhardt, Cecilia and Stahl, and Stahl is 4☆. Would I get a similar score, or would it be lower/higher? Nino is pretty great too, and she's a mainstay on my Arena team, personally. Running Camus shouldn't affect your score, at least not as much as before. What level of skills you are able to kit him with matters more. Got anyone else you can run over Stahl? My current team is a Horse Emblem hybrid with Camus / Xander giving each other Fortify / Hone buffs respectively, along with Nino and Sharena on the side. It works pretty great, especially now that Xander has Quick Pulse for 2 CD Bonfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, MrSmokestack said: Nino is pretty great too, and she's a mainstay on my Arena team, personally. Running Camus shouldn't affect your score, at least not as much as before. What level of skills you are able to kit him with matters more. Got anyone else you can run over Stahl? My current team is a Horse Emblem hybrid with Camus / Xander giving each other Fortify / Hone buffs respectively, along with Nino and Sharena on the side. It works pretty great, especially now that Xander has Quick Pulse for 2 CD Bonfire. The ones that might replace Stahl are Cecilia and Xander. Thing is, Cecilia has hone cav but I'll lose red unit while I'll get red unit with Xander but lose Hone cav. The idea of running cecilia+stahl is to hone cecilia as well. The other option is promoting xander, give him hone cav from stahl but I'd cry because stahl has 1k+ hero merit ;_; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, KongDude said: What is Est good for? I have 3 4*s of her just taking up space. Brave Lance Est is a discount Cordelia Aside from that, not much of anything, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, MaskedAmpharos said: Brave Lance Est is a discount Cordelia Aside from that, not much of anything, really. Brave Lance Est actually costs more than Cordelia to min-max, sadly, because Cordelia starts with Brave-Lance+, meaning you don't have to dump 20k feathers just to change a weapon. That said, a budget regular Brave-Lance build is quite usable, out-done by the best lance user in the game, but quite good anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, eclipse said: Tee-hee~! She drastically improves with Darting Blow, especially on Flier Emblem. Her base Atk is tied with Cordelia/Hinoka, though she lacks their Speed. Her stupid-high Res means that she's perfect for Iceberg. If you ever get a +Spd one, try Iceberg/Darting Blow/Desperation. Sounds interesting, but I'm sure I have units that would benefit much better from those skills. 2 minutes ago, MaskedAmpharos said: Brave Lance Est is a discount Cordelia Aside from that, not much of anything, really. Already got a good Hinoka so to the bin she goes I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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