Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Lame, as in, they're all basically Str-reliant and their Spd sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Ryoma would love to talk to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Isn't he, like, 1 in 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Soul~! said: Isn't he, like, 1 in 10. Which invalidates "all". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoncat Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Ryoma isn't a "lord" though. Lords are the main characters of their games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Which invalidates "all". Excuse me, but does change 95% of what I actually said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Marth isn't slow. 34 speed is pretty good. Roy is average with 31 spd. Eliwood is also pretty average with 30 spd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Anna is a girl, thus Females are a superior race. All mother be praised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeKirbys Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I disagree. Primarily because of Marth, whose speed is his highest stat (excepting HP), but there's also Roy, who is more Weapon-Triangle-matchup-dependent than strength-reliant thanks to Triangle Adept (plus his speed isn't that bad really, 31 is a respectable amount I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 I think I got two +Spd *4 Roys, once. They start with 9-10 Spd, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, ILikeKirbys said: I disagree. Primarily because of Marth, whose speed is his highest stat (excepting HP), but there's also Roy, who is more Weapon-Triangle-matchup-dependent than strength-reliant thanks to Triangle Adept (plus his speed isn't that bad really, 31 is a respectable amount I think). And then there's Corrin - 32 speed at neutral, 36 when attacking with Yato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Soul~! said: I think I got two +Spd *4 Roys, once. They start with 9-10 Spd, right? I mean, he's still not really all that great compared to Lucina Face it man, girls rule boys drool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 The only reason I can agree with that is because I prefer actual variety rather than "oh lets just make them stronger because theyre guys". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 most stats in heroes are reflected by their stats ingame, and girls are generally speedy in their respective games, while dudes are generally stronger and more durable. It's just reflected the same way here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Except for Ephraim (his highest base stat was speed, fuck you Heroes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Yeah, his speed cap and growth were pretty mediocre though, and his strength growth was huge. Whoever made Ephraim clearly didn't play 0% growths EDIT: ayyyy turns out his speed growth is really good too Ephraim is fair and balanced. His cap still sucks though. Edited March 16, 2017 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, Dragoncat said: Ryoma isn't a "lord" though. Lords are the main characters of their games. And he soloes Birthright right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Silith13 said: And he soloes Birthright right? I mean he can when he exists, but not existing for like 14 chapters kinda means he can't solo the entire game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, General Horace said: Yeah, his speed cap and growth were pretty mediocre though, and his strength growth was huge. Whoever made Ephraim clearly didn't play 0% growths EDIT: ayyyy turns out his speed growth is really good too Ephraim is fair and balanced. His cap still sucks though. How the fuck does 24 Spd cap suck in the GBA games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) it sucks compared to other caps in the game feheroes is similar to the fe11 multiplayer mode where caps were the only thing that really matter, and if you stick Ephraim in a link arena fight or something in FE8 he's gonna get decimated by berserkers or something since his cap is lower than other classes. obviously its good enough for ingame stuff, but you can use basically any unit for the heroes "story" mode until the higher levels of lunatic anyway. Edited March 16, 2017 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 That shit isn't even relevant. It fucks up the game aka where it fucking it matters. That's like saying Marcus has shitty Spd because he isn't Lyndis or Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refa Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, General Horace said: it sucks compared to other caps in the game i get why his str is better (like you said), but what confuses me is why his def is better since his base/growth/caps are all higher in speed =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) what ephraim is very good in sacred stones I didn't imply otherwise, I was using an analogy that you obviously missed that doesn't mean anything in feheroes, where caps/max stats/whatever you want to call them mean everything. they modelled his stats in heroes around his most notable attribute stat in fe8 which is his huge strength (especially with Siegmund), this isn't hard to understand. If Marcus was transferred over to heroes I imagine he'd also be slow and Guy would be fast. Yeah I agree it's kind of weird they gave him so much defence though. Edited March 16, 2017 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, Dragoncat said: Ryoma isn't a "lord" though. Lords are the main characters of their games. He has his own unique weapon ... and its not even Wo Dao its Athos level. Technically... he's the lord of Birthright. They need to increase the HP of this game or something. Right now ... glass cannon is pretty much the go-to to get results. Gotta buff the defender somehow. Also +5 speed is annoying ... it makes female like Lyn are hitting too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Refa said: i get why his str is better (like you said), but what confuses me is why his def is better since his base/growth/caps are all higher in speed =( I think its to continue off the Great Knight angle that they went with in Awakening, because he trained under Duracell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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