Ice Dragon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Wow, we have all stats and stuff already? Dataminers ruining the surprise meng... It's entirely speculation based on the fact that enemy units with the same class in previous Grand Hero Battles have had identical stats with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: It's entirely speculation based on the fact that enemy units with the same class in previous Grand Hero Battles have had identical stats with each other. Huh, really? Like the Lancer from Robin's map had the same stats as the Lancer in Michalis'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Huh, really? Like the Lancer from Robin's map had the same stats as the Lancer in Michalis'? Here: On 3/30/2017 at 1:25 PM, Kiran said: I'm assuming that its going to be the same stats as the previous GHB. The sword cav in the Ursula battle has the same stats as the Micahlis cav. The infantry enemies have the same stats in the narcian/robin battles as well. Though this is not certain and merely speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Ice Dragon said: Here: Hm, alright. Didn't pay enough attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Ice Dragon said: Assuming those stats are accurate, the Hammer+ armor knight does a grand total of 13 damage to 5-star neutral Draug, which is not even enough to break Quick Riposte 3. I'm now tempted to build my Wo Dao+, Moonbow, Distant Counter, Quick Riposte 3 Draug and just walk him in and stomp everyone. With 42 might and the WTD wouldn't that do just plain 0 damage? Do armour slayers double the weapon or the full atk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Not sure if this been mentinoed yet, but Gronnraven + Triangle Adept bunny camilla might be good for flying in and sniping the bottom thief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Silith13 said: With 42 might and the WTD wouldn't that do just plain 0 damage? Do armour slayers double the weapon or the full atk? 1.5x full Atk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: 1.5x full Atk. Sooo the armour will deal 42*0.8*1.5=50.4atk worth of damage. Minus Draug's 39 defence that's 11.4 damage with the hammer. That's pretty damn pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Silith13 said: Sooo the armour will deal 42*0.8*1.5=50.4atk worth of damage. Minus Draug's 39 defence that's 11.4 damage with the hammer. That's pretty damn pathetic. 43 x 1.5 = 64.5. 64 x 0.8 = 51.2. 52 - 39 = 13. In that order. Neutral Draug needs to take 16 damage to have Quick Riposte 3 broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: 43 x 1.5 = 64.5. 64 x 0.8 = 51.2. 52 - 39 = 13. In that order. Neutral Draug needs to take 16 damage to have Quick Riposte 3 broken. Whoa that's super inconsistant. .5 gets rounded down but .2 gets rounded up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, Silith13 said: Sooo the armour will deal 42*0.8*1.5=50.4atk worth of damage. Minus Draug's 39 defence that's 11.4 damage with the hammer. That's pretty damn pathetic. A little off, but yeah. It is pretty pathetic. Your boy is the ultimate tank of death! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, Silith13 said: Whoa that's super inconsistant. .5 gets rounded down but .2 gets rounded up? All rounding is down, but it's always the modifier that is rounded, not the end result. So it's actually: 43 + (43 x 0.5) = 42 + (21.5) = 43 + 21 = 64. 64 - (64 x 0.2) = 64 - (8.8) = 64 - 8 = 52. 52 - 39 = 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 Added the tentative enemy stats to the OP, as I was supposed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFrigid Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Hm...if those are actually the enemy stats...buffed Adult Tiki = easy win? I'd have to run the numbers, but I think that should work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Grand Hero Battle against Navarre has officially been announced, and it's starting tomorrow on April 4th! As the case with two prior battles, a 4⋆ Navarre can be obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escotanner Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Alright, time to prepare for tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Just got my Draug his final passive skill. Let's see if he can solo smash this party. It kind of depends on the healer enemy. (And if our thoughts on the enemy compesition is correct.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Incoming Navvare having fully charged Astra turn 1 because lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 He has Blazing Wind partially charged at 3. And if he has Astra. Well +150% damage dealt..... That's 0*2.5=0 damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 It's starting tomorrow? Isnt it usually over the weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Huh so i mistook how Astra works all these tme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 You were thinking of Dragon Fang etc. Those skill buff the full atk of the character. Astra on the other hand only increases based on the damage dealt normally. Example 1. You got 30 atk and your opponent has 20 defence. Dragon Fang will Do 30*1.5-20=25 damage. Astra will do (30-20)*1.5= 15 damage. Example 2. You got 30 attack but you face the Might of Draug who has 39 defence. Dragon Fang will do 30*1.5-39=6 damage. Astra will do (30-39)*1.5)=0 damage. And only because negative numbers don't exist. Either way Draug is a boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Fudge, I realized I made an error in the stats. The grand hero always has boosted versions of their stats. Ursula had only boosted hp, while Micahlis had boosted hp and +1 to def, spd, and atk. So Navarre's stats are slightly off (except for hp which is off by a lot). Navarre should have an extra +15-20 hp, with possibly +1 (maybe even +2 since it seems they are slowly increasing the difficulty each time) to some of his other stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW91 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 What team is needed to do this? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 Kagero with daggerbreaker will wreck those thiefs. As will anyone with Setsuna's Assassin bow. A tanky blue unit will easily beat Navarre and something red and magic can face the green knight. Thinking ahead. Effie, Kagero, Lilina and Olivia will be a good team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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