sup a Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I was attempting to ISO people and I realize that the current gamestate is pretty fucked in terms of being able to follow someone's opinion. I was looking into some players a bit more and I honestly like gave up trying to read almost everything about 'em. I'm not trying to hop onto my armchair because I'm guilty of such behavior but there are so many damn posts that literally don't need to exist but are done anyways. I don't mind single sentences, nor if there is a discussion being made it's not always good to just stop what you're doing and write walls. I imagine filtering through those type of posts instead of wall responses can be less grating on the eyes but I digress. Here's a tally just for the sake of it based on who's alive. This is estimate and may not round up to the exact number (25 posts a page). I have a greater point to make afterwards: 6450 posts total JohnCarter - 582 Shinori - 550 dyachei - 400 EvanManManMan - 400 Shattiel - 375 Donald Trump - 331 Elemina/SR/Duk3 - 350 Weinerboy - 300 Orihime - 225 Refa/Snike - 200 Mello - 175 manti - 150 Ryan/KTS - 150 Alive players make up roughly 4,188 posts which is more than half of the content. I feel like I'm giving too many excuses for activity. I don't imagine anyone would believe a case being made based on how much you're posting, but based on the way people have been dying or wolves have been choosing their targets they have all been (for the most part) slots that have low post count or less influence on the thread. Why? That's something I have to come to terms with, and occam's razor implies that we're feeding into their hand and are just hiding amongst the overblown activity. The idea presented that 'not all inactives can be wolves' remains true, but honestly I feel it's more important than that. Wolves will do what it takes to be townread, and forcing content is one of them. I've been TRing DT for giving out too much information but in a overly cluttered vacuum I imagine it's more efficient to give out fake content instead of more direct content. The state of the thread does not favor inactivity, but what's most confusing to me is that the highest posters are not really moving the gamestate ahead, rather they're just doing what is necessary. Decisions on lynches have been somewhat arbitrary, not in the sense they were random rather people are very whimsical about it. I dunno, maybe this is all horseshit and I'm overthinking things but I don't townread some slots as much as I did before, and ironically, I really think I've been too hard on Mello. I am not saying that large activity = more suspect, I am saying the way that activity is done to bolster appearance is. Everytime I come across my JC read I always just think 'yea, they're posting and a lot of people townread 'em and well I have other priorities I guess.' I think that's the wrong angle, and I was already feeling like I had the possibility to be duped. Furthermore, my read on DT is explicitly meta and based upon him giving up too much information, but I don't think it really fits. I've also been giving Evan credit for being there as a vague way to explain, however there's nothing that wows me. I find it really funny that Mello mentions that he can't believe I TR Evan more than him and yea you know what he's right. If he wants to say I'm flip-flopping on the read again then that's fine, I just find it funny a dude from EM is the one who is hyperposting the fucking least. Dya is someone who I've been reading v for a while too, and her content is really only at best serviceable. I'm not ready to say that Dya isn't v anymore after this shocking revelation, rather I'm more cautious just like I'm more cautious about DT/JC/Evan. My list of 'being duped' still holds credence and well, I guess I can't help but feel like maybe I'm being duped. As for Shatt? The narrative could conveniently fit, but I don't think it's the same. I haven't found anything unlike other players I've mentioned to really give them a townread on, though I will be looking at JC based on what they flip. I'd say in terms of paranoia he's the one I could feel the most paranoid about, DT being a close second followed by shin. I don't know if anyone will read this but at least humor me on this thought if you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup a Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 tl;dr Lynch Shatt, based on flip focusing on JC/DT/Shin. If Shatt is wolf feel worse about JC, If shatt is v feel worse about DT/Shin Can try to explain if ppl ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 WTF JC IS BEATING ME. THAT CANT BE ALLOWED TO STAY. Scum team kill JC tonight. Even if he's scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Why JC if shatt flips scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Iris said: Day 4: Automated Votals from #5850 to #6442 Shattiel (6): weinerboy, Shinori, Snike, dyachei, Donald Trump, EvanManManManmanti (3): JohnCarter, Shattiel, MelloDuk3star (2): Killthestory, OrihimeNot voting (2): Duk3star, manti Phase ends in 14h30m. Hammer at 9. Vote history:   Reveal hidden contents  Donald Trump (2): Snike -> Shattiel dyachei (3): weinerboy -> Unvote -> Shattiel Duk3star (1): Unvote EvanManManMan (4): manti -> Unvote -> Donald Trump -> Shattiel JohnCarter (2): manti -> manti Mello (3): EvanManManMan -> Shattiel -> manti Orihime (1): Duk3star Killthestory (1): Duk3star Snike (1): Shattiel Shattiel (4): Duk3star -> manti -> Mello -> manti Shinori (4): JohnCarter -> Unvote -> manti -> Shattiel weinerboy (1): Shattiel  <Beta v2.0.4>  Interesting votals if Shatt flips scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Also @Shattiel Should probably claim. like 6 hours or so left in phase I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup a Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, Shinori said: Why JC if shatt flips scum? Feel like he's ignoring Shatt for vague/non-committal reasons, also have a tinfoil hat about DT/JC to an extent but I have nothing to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, weinerboy said: Feel like he's ignoring Shatt for vague/non-committal reasons, also have a tinfoil hat about DT/JC to an extent but I have nothing to prove it. I like tinfoil hat theories and I can feel those same vibes from those 2. If shatt doesn't flip arso though we should probably look into someone not JC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I definitely think Shatt is the 100% play today though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 You think I can pass up JC today? I start work in a few hours though. Phone posting to pass JC might be hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuru Kirijo Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 21 hours ago, Shinori said: Shatt? Can die tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Orihime said: Can die tbh You are like SO after my heart this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsuru Kirijo Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Shinori said: You are like SO after my heart this game. N-nani? What makes you think that? Huh HUH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinori Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Orihime said: N-nani? What makes you think that? Huh HUH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyachei Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 47 minutes ago, weinerboy said: I was attempting to ISO people and I realize that the current gamestate is pretty fucked in terms of being able to follow someone's opinion. I was looking into some players a bit more and I honestly like gave up trying to read almost everything about 'em. I'm not trying to hop onto my armchair because I'm guilty of such behavior but there are so many damn posts that literally don't need to exist but are done anyways. I don't mind single sentences, nor if there is a discussion being made it's not always good to just stop what you're doing and write walls. I imagine filtering through those type of posts instead of wall responses can be less grating on the eyes but I digress. Here's a tally just for the sake of it based on who's alive. This is estimate and may not round up to the exact number (25 posts a page). I have a greater point to make afterwards: 6450 posts total JohnCarter - 582 Shinori - 550 dyachei - 400 EvanManManMan - 400 Shattiel - 375 Donald Trump - 331 Elemina/SR/Duk3 - 350 Weinerboy - 300 Orihime - 225 Refa/Snike - 200 Mello - 175 manti - 150 Ryan/KTS - 150 Alive players make up roughly 4,188 posts which is more than half of the content. I feel like I'm giving too many excuses for activity. I don't imagine anyone would believe a case being made based on how much you're posting, but based on the way people have been dying or wolves have been choosing their targets they have all been (for the most part) slots that have low post count or less influence on the thread. Why? That's something I have to come to terms with, and occam's razor implies that we're feeding into their hand and are just hiding amongst the overblown activity. The idea presented that 'not all inactives can be wolves' remains true, but honestly I feel it's more important than that. Wolves will do what it takes to be townread, and forcing content is one of them. I've been TRing DT for giving out too much information but in a overly cluttered vacuum I imagine it's more efficient to give out fake content instead of more direct content. The state of the thread does not favor inactivity, but what's most confusing to me is that the highest posters are not really moving the gamestate ahead, rather they're just doing what is necessary. Decisions on lynches have been somewhat arbitrary, not in the sense they were random rather people are very whimsical about it. I dunno, maybe this is all horseshit and I'm overthinking things but I don't townread some slots as much as I did before, and ironically, I really think I've been too hard on Mello. I am not saying that large activity = more suspect, I am saying the way that activity is done to bolster appearance is. Everytime I come across my JC read I always just think 'yea, they're posting and a lot of people townread 'em and well I have other priorities I guess.' I think that's the wrong angle, and I was already feeling like I had the possibility to be duped. Furthermore, my read on DT is explicitly meta and based upon him giving up too much information, but I don't think it really fits. I've also been giving Evan credit for being there as a vague way to explain, however there's nothing that wows me. I find it really funny that Mello mentions that he can't believe I TR Evan more than him and yea you know what he's right. If he wants to say I'm flip-flopping on the read again then that's fine, I just find it funny a dude from EM is the one who is hyperposting the fucking least. Dya is someone who I've been reading v for a while too, and her content is really only at best serviceable. I'm not ready to say that Dya isn't v anymore after this shocking revelation, rather I'm more cautious just like I'm more cautious about DT/JC/Evan. My list of 'being duped' still holds credence and well, I guess I can't help but feel like maybe I'm being duped. As for Shatt? The narrative could conveniently fit, but I don't think it's the same. I haven't found anything unlike other players I've mentioned to really give them a townread on, though I will be looking at JC based on what they flip. I'd say in terms of paranoia he's the one I could feel the most paranoid about, DT being a close second followed by shin. I don't know if anyone will read this but at least humor me on this thought if you do. I feel like you're one of the only people trying to solve the game and I'm getting pretty frustrated over it (that others arent) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilla Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Day 4: Automated Votals from #6372 to #6465 Shattiel (6): weinerboy, Shinori, Snike, Dyachei, Donald Trump, EvanManManMan Magnificence Incarnate (4): , killthestory, mantimanti (3): JohnCarter, Shattiel, MelloMello (2): Magnificence IncarnateDuk3star (1): OrihimeNot voting (1): Duk3star Phase ends in 5h18m. Hammer at 9. Vote history: Duk3star (1): Unvote EvanManManMan (1): Shattiel JohnCarter (1): manti Mello (2): Shattiel -> manti Shattiel (2): Mello -> manti <Beta v2.0.4> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquilla Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Day 4: Automated Votals from #5100 to #6466 Shattiel (6): weinerboy, Shinori, Snike, Dyachei, Donald Trump, EvanManManMan manti (3): JohnCarter, Shattiel, MelloMagnificence Incarnate (2): killthestory, mantiDuk3star (1): OrihimeNot voting (1): Duk3star Errors (1): Orihime Phase End Vote history: Donald Trump (9): Shattiel -> Magnificence Incarnate -> killthestory -> Mello -> killthestory -> Mello -> Magnificence Incarnate -> Snike -> Shattiel Dyachei (7): Orihime -> Unvote -> Magnificence Incarnate -> killthestory -> weinerboy -> Unvote -> Shattiel Duk3star (1): Unvote EvanManManMan (7): LaserGuy -> Orihime -> Mello -> manti -> Unvote -> Donald Trump -> Shattiel JohnCarter (5): Magnificence Incarnate -> Orihime -> Magnificence Incarnate -> manti -> manti manti (3): killthestory -> Mello -> Magnificence Incarnate Mello (5): Shattiel -> Magnificence Incarnate -> EvanManManMan -> Shattiel -> manti Orihime (1): Duk3star killthestory (1): Magnificence Incarnate Snike (5): Shattiel -> LaserGuy -> Shattiel -> Magnificence Incarnate -> Shattiel Shattiel (5): killthestory -> Duk3star -> manti -> Mello -> manti Shinori (8): Shattiel -> Unvote -> Magnificence Incarnate -> Magnificence Incarnate -> JohnCarter -> Unvote -> manti -> Shattiel weinerboy (3): Mello -> Magnificence Incarnate -> Shattiel <Beta v2.0.4> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanManManMan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 hours ago, dyachei said: not really true regarding SR. He tends to get more aggressive as town I don't think it can't be faked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyachei Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, EvanManManMan said: I don't think it can't be faked I think using it as a reason to read him scum is dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanManManMan Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, weinerboy said: tl;dr Lynch Shatt, based on flip focusing on JC/DT/Shin. If Shatt is wolf feel worse about JC, If shatt is v feel worse about DT/Shin Can try to explain if ppl ask me How is your read on Mello affected by a Shattiel flip either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sup a Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, EvanManManMan said: How is your read on Mello affected by a Shattiel flip either way Not sure, pretty sure he thinks manti is wolf and has been ignoring shatt, but JC and Mello are not the same people and are handling the thread differently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔥YOLOSWAG🔥 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 there was this one time we were going on a family vacation up to orlando for a soccer tourney for my sister n we stopped at a subway's on the way back home. i had to crap to i went to the bathroom and this was the crap that exceeded all craps. like when i tell you this crap was colossal, dude my anus was burning like the fiery pits of hell. crap got on the TOILET SEAT. how he hell does that even HAPPEN? anyway i couldn't flush so i kinda just left it there. i tried hurrying my family outta the subway and it worked! all the way till my dad decided he needed to go to the bathroom... i remember sitting in the car n watching my dad go in, be disgusted leaving, and cleaning that **** up himself. i was shunned the rest of the way down, and now my whole family loves pointing back to that fateful story if they ever wanna get an edge on me. like god damn **** WAS EVERYWHERE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trump Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, Omega. said: there was this one time we were going on a family vacation up to orlando for a soccer tourney for my sister n we stopped at a subway's on the way back home. i had to crap to i went to the bathroom and this was the crap that exceeded all craps. like when i tell you this crap was colossal, dude my anus was burning like the fiery pits of hell. crap got on the TOILET SEAT. how he hell does that even HAPPEN? anyway i couldn't flush so i kinda just left it there. i tried hurrying my family outta the subway and it worked! all the way till my dad decided he needed to go to the bathroom... i remember sitting in the car n watching my dad go in, be disgusted leaving, and cleaning that **** up himself. i was shunned the rest of the way down, and now my whole family loves pointing back to that fateful story if they ever wanna get an edge on me. like god damn **** WAS EVERYWHERE. wow bro what an embarrassing story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mello Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I'm here. I think manti needs rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trump Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 quick q: whats stopping mello from being scum? if your answer is mi counterwagon, would we be saying the same thing if we lynched mello instead and he flipped scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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