lolDeath Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Veteran groups work out fine on other forums (FEU, for example). We have not had a single case of anyone holding Veteran status over anyone as any kind of superiority, it's just something for members to aim for (and also a way to help us admins get input on ideas from members who have stuck around). It just depends on the members and staff execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyosua Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm a veteran. I'm not an elitist. I really want this transition to work out.That said, yeah rules are gonna get stricter when necesary. When we get to the point where the rules aren't so relevant, we won't need them anymore. Right Joshua? Yep :) You misinterpreted what I said.I was disappointed in the people making a NEED for such new rules, not the rules themselves. I actually support the idea. Oh, yeah I was disappointed in that too. XD Veteran groups work out fine on other forums (FEU, for example). We have not had a single case of anyone holding Veteran status over anyone as any kind of superiority, it's just something for members to aim for (and also a way to help us admins get input on ideas from members who have stuck around). It just depends on the members and staff execution. Moreso on the members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Veteran groups work out fine on other forums (FEU, for example). We have not had a single case of anyone holding Veteran status over anyone as any kind of superiority, it's just something for members to aim for (and also a way to help us admins get input on ideas from members who have stuck around). It just depends on the members and staff execution. this is what i dont understand. we never flaunted status here. when we gained it we would make a topic going "AWESOME IM A ROYAL/HERON!" but that was it. we never went "Im a vet cuz im a heron/royal so listen to me!!!!" It almost sounds as if the select ppl who DID say that are trying to tell the FESSuges "Know your place and you better treat me like a superior!" which is retarded and IS NOT helping this transition at all. I got a comment from a FESSuge saying "Why are you a royal? What does it do?" and i just went "Oh its just when you have 3000+ posts. its absolutely nothing special." and he was like "oh okay thanks!" and we started talking and now we're friends. I will admit i was with the "I dont know, i think this place will change" group at first but after i just sat down and spoke with the FESSers, they're like us. Some are uber serious like shuuda and gulcassa(kanji man), some are wild and loose like me and hika. So I dont see any thing negative coming out of this besides SF members harassing the new FESSers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) @ Jyo - Yes, if I had to put a percent on it I would say 80% or so. If you do this I just suggest you making it clear that being a Veteran does not make anyone better than anyone else, or even go a step ahead and when someone brings it up mention that they are claiming to be superior to another person based on member group on a forum. It's easy to shut elitists up, really. Raven, no offense, but I would really stick to the clear topic on this. I see a lot of dramatics all around and I'd hate to see it infect what I consider an important forum area where we can solve problems like this with ease. All things change, it's up to members just like you to make sure the change is for the best. And just call Shuuda a lolicon, he'll calm down. Edited November 16, 2008 by Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I agree. Some of us have been far far far too harsh on these FESS refugees. Honestly, please stop referring to us as refugees. We're not coming from a board that's war-torn, nor have we been forced out of it. Speaking for myself, the word "refugee" is degrading. I knew this was gonna happen.Exactly why I wasn't harsh to the newbziez. You're not making yourself look any better here. You're pretty much saying "Oh, I told you so - that's why I was prepared, see." I wish they'd post more in FFTF :( That place scares the shit out of me. Yes, it is. I can appreciate them wanting us to change--for the better. However, I expected to get a bunch of whining and complaining. But here's the thing - we [/i]don't[/i] want you to change. No-one ever said a single word about wanting you to change. All you people have been doing is creating illusions for yourself and then becoming scared of them. My opinion? I haven't been impressed by the situation one bit, but thanks to the swift actions of Jyosua and his cohorts you have been redeemed. I love multiquote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatrie: Guns Blazing Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) this is like obama and mcain all over again. change vs. no change. why cant we all just get along? ok to be perfectly honost. (i try not to lie...ever) the only thing im worried about is Blacken's comments. if they havent already (i can be VERY misinformed), they need to stop Edited November 16, 2008 by Gatrie Is Over 9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masu Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 this is like obama and mcain all over again. change vs. no change.why cant we all just get along? CUZ WE ALL SUCK! I dunno.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLSothe Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 @ Wander: Sure. The term refugees is abolished. also, I never SAID you wanted us to change, rather, I said I was afraid you would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatrie: Guns Blazing Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 GOASH DAMN ITS LIKE WHAT THE BOSS SAID its not about changing the world. its about keeping the world the way it was. then the patriots come and try to change it. (the patriots is a compliment btw patriots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sex) and then were like BUT I DONT KNOW WAT THE BOSS MEANT BY THAT!! DERRRRR... i hope this cleared alot up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I wish they'd post more in FFTF :( So true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 This needed to be addressed. Thanks, Jyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Hm, "Veteran" status doesn't mean anything anyway. It's like going to college and telling a freshman you are better than him/her because you've been at college longer. The mature thing to do is to show the new members a good time here, instead of saying you're better because you've been at Serenes Forest longer. We should let the new members do the things we do. Also, am I the only "SF Vet" annoyed at the amount of activity in Far From the Forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florete Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm not going to explain myself for what I said and I'm not taking it back, but I do agree with this to an extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) It's like going to college and telling a freshman you are better than him/her because you've been at college longer. Not to detract from the topic, but if you're actually getting somewhere in college, being at college longer can grant you any number of one ups against freshmen. Fraternities, better degrees, campus status, professorships, better dorm. . . It's more like people that are born deaf/go deaf before they can *remember* sound and people who go deaf later in life. Neither is waking up to the birds in the morning(the former still hates the latter, though, so that should speak for the situation). Blind people do it too, actually, though then it's a bit harder for them to do it. Edited November 16, 2008 by bunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kommissar Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 It's rather important to note that, ironically, the more people grunt like chimpanzees about being veterans and their respect being an "earned" thing, the more newcomers will show resentment or willful hostility. The right thing to do is, quite simply, to carry about your business. There's no agenda to reshape SF. The idea is absurd to the point of being laughable. They're here for the Fire Emblem game and community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Wright Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Which is why you guys/girls don't post in FFtF right? FESS really should, it's how to get to know the members here. Though I am annoyed there is TOO much activity, it is a great place to meet us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tino Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm going to disagree with the statement that all our new members should post in Far From the Forest a lot more. You are basically saying that spamming and flaming is the only way to get to know eachother. In all honesty, I hope that's not how you people think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Actually, if you look at it from a certain perspective, if somebody flames another, it will indeed show his/her true or rather, "bad" side. In that way, you would be able to know the person very well. But one thing to note is that the staff are trying their best to tone down the flaming (and perhaps, forever extinguish the flames, though that'll be impossible). And there are quite a few Far From the Forest regulars (myself included) who don't flame regularly there (or at all). Still, I think Far From the Forest actually is a good place for knowing other people. I'm not encouraging spam or flames, but since in that board you're as lax as possible, can say (almost) whatever is on your mind and etc., it'll allow for a lot of casual conversations and all such. I suppose, though, that different people view it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) I would just like to note that a few of the people who've posted "I agree" and the like have made Veteran threads. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Edited November 16, 2008 by ChaosNinji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 (edited) I would just like to note that a few of the people who've posted "I agree" and the like have made Veteran threads. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Indeed. But it is not surprising considering how some of them usually act... Edited November 16, 2008 by Shuuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Alright, pointing fingers won't get anywhere. Also, I'm sure people can decide for themselves where to post. You'd have to kill me to make me post more than once a day in FFtF ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_____ Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I'm not pointing fingers. I was merely making an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Okay, you've got me there. I was just trying to find an excuse for people not to stray too far off-topic, but I'm terrible at defining the excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom103 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 I leave for 3 days and this happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Okay, you've got me there. I was just trying to find an excuse for people not to stray too far off-topic, but I'm terrible at defining the excuses. You could always mention the fact that it did not contribute to the topic at all, and would only serve to irritate others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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