Metal Rabbit Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) But that bundle of cells can become a living human being. A liver cannot. If people aren't gonna say something new, then this topic is just boring honestly. Edited November 20, 2008 by Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Something can be genetically human without being a person. Also, if you find the topic boring, don't read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuuda Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Going off on a tangent, gay activities are a sin.Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders /tangent And what intelligent person honestly cares about what some ancient book says? The bible is outdated, we know more than we did back in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Oh I didn't even see that post. What the fuck do homosexuals have to do with abortion? Ohhh. Nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I smell a biblepusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Spoon Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I smell a biblepusher. Not really. I'm for euthanasia if done under very certain restrictions (Orgeon Death with Dignity Act seems the best set of those out there). More like me trying to force my beliefs on other people...wait. I don't usually try and do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 On Gamefaqs, an opinion is a declaration of war. But this isn't Gamefaqs, so we can have opinions.I noticed that somebody said that a fetus is not a human. This scares me. If we have the right to decide that an unborn child is not a human, wouldn't that give us the right to say that blacks aren't humans? Or that gay people aren't humans? Going off on a tangent, gay activities are a sin. Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders /tangent *sigh* 1. GameFAQs, yey, nobody mentioned it, I just told someone that everyone can have an opinion. 2. A fetus is not a living being, blacks are like everyone else. 3. As mentioned earlier, the quotes do not support your argument, or even relate to it for that matter. Also biblepusher = Anyone who shows a clear disregard of sense when talking about anything that relates to their religion. As in "Abortion blah blah blah" "MAN ON MAN SEX". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Shards Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Not really. I'm for euthanasia if done under very certain restrictions (Orgeon Death with Dignity Act seems the best set of those out there).More like me trying to force my beliefs on other people...wait. I don't usually try and do that Being for euthanasia doesn't make you less of a Bible pusher. Besides, anyone who uses the Bible as a reason to make things legal or illegal is, well, a Bible pusher. There's a reason we're not a theocracy. Edited November 20, 2008 by Crystal Shards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) And what intelligent person honestly cares about what some ancient book says? The bible is outdated, we know more than we did back in those days. So are some of the current law. Some of them date back hundred of years. They are known as Common law and they are not considered outdated. Just saying...also some of these laws do come from religious text books... Edited November 20, 2008 by Luxord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) But (as a guy) am I gonna get pregnant and have to choose what happens to my body? Is that like saying that white people couldn't attempt to assist African Americans in achieving independence, because they're not black? Doesn't make much sense. But that bundle of cells can become a living human being. A liver cannot. How about skin cells, then? Going off on a tangent, gay activities are a sin.Leviticus 18:22 Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders /tangent What the hell is wrong with you? Not really. I'm for euthanasia if done under very certain restrictions (Orgeon Death with Dignity Act seems the best set of those out there).More like me trying to force my beliefs on other people...wait. I don't usually try and do that Oh, I see; you're a troll. Edited November 21, 2008 by Esau of Isaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Only in the case of rape or incest it should be legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum Tuberosum Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Not really. I'm for euthanasia if done under very certain restrictions (Orgeon Death with Dignity Act seems the best set of those out there).More like me trying to force my beliefs on other people...wait. I don't usually try and do that It's spelled Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Only in the case of rape or incest it should be legal. Based upon? Even though the adoption system is completely overloaded we should just force it to become worse? It is this lack of sight that causes many problems in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Judy Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Only in the case of rape or incest it should be legal. Well what about if the child is seriously deformed and has no chance of living a normal life. Shouldn't it be better to have abortion and not make that child suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau of Isaac Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Only in the case of rape or incest it should be legal. Thanks for not expounding upon that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks for not expounding upon that point. I would, but then I would be crushed into an oblivion by my horrible debating skills. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 So, which debates are we having now? Are we still discussing if it's right to kill animals? Are we still discussing at what time an embryo becomes a human being? Any other mini debates going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolDeath Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I would, but then I would be crushed into an oblivion by my horrible debating skills. :/ You can't even explain the thoughts behind an opinion? I would get that checked out if I were you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I would, but then I would be crushed into an oblivion by my horrible debating skills. :/ An opinion or point without factual basis or backup, is quite frankly worthless. You're less likely to be destroyed if you have some sort of defense. As it is your statement is already proven horribly, horribly wrong. ie. If you're going to post, back up your statement, or else you look like a total fool since you just said something that has already been fully expounded and soundly defeated. Good day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 Aww... go easy on the guy. Is it really that harmful to say a one liner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defeatist Elitist Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Aww... go easy on the guy. Is it really that harmful to say a one liner? It's not harmful, and frankly, I don't care, but unless it's funny or contributes to the discussion, he's better off not saying it. :D I'm doing this for his own good! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) It's not harmful, and frankly, I don't care, but unless it's funny or contributes to the discussion, he's better off not saying it. :D I'm doing this for his own good! :P But you're scaring away all the cool people. Joking of course, but it does scare away people from giving input. Edited November 21, 2008 by Knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FionordeQuester Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 (edited) Well, since no ones telling me, I'll give my opinion on all the opinions covered in this topic (and keep in mind, I'm a christian, so I believe in god)... When is an embryo a person? When it starts forming a brain of course. Isn't it our brain that contains our whole personality, life experience, feelings, and thoughts? Isn't it our brain that makes us who we are? Lets say for example that someone were to take out my brain right now. If that were to happen, BAM!, I'm dead. I mean, my body would still function, so I wouldn't be technically dead, but I may as well be... So therefore, I believe an abortion is not murder when the embryo does not even have a functional brain yet. What about the personality that the baby would have recieved had it not been hosed by chance? Well, I always like to think that God would just snatch up that personality, save it, then put it in the vessel of another embryo with a developing brain. Cuz he's cool like that! And that's all a body really is without a brain, an empty vessel for a persons soul to inhabit. As for animals, well, in a way, they are all our distant cousins in my opinion since evolution says that all animals had one common ancestor. And who is this common ancestor? What was his name? God of course!! I mean, according to the bible, he did make us in his own image, so why not make the lesser animals in a similar, but still different image? However, God has also made it very clear that he puts us above them, so killing them for a good reason (like food, or self defense) is justified, but not killing them for a bad reason. So, I believe it's justified to kill the animals for food and stuff, I mean, we did use them as burn offerings to him before Jesus came down and forgave us all, and they pretty much just go to heaven with him anyways. But torturing them? Heck no, cuz that's sadism. Purposely killing them for no reason? No, because your doing nothing but indulging your dark side by doing that! And anything you dark side tells you to do is evil! Now, those issues are easy. This abortion issue however, is not so easy, so Ima take about thirty minutes to an hour to think up that one. See ya then! Edited November 21, 2008 by FionordeQuester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oguma Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Aww... go easy on the guy. Is it really that harmful to say a one liner? Thanks Waha Kife. I feel like if I say anything else I would leave. *leaves* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny: spider bitten Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 For what it's worth, seeing as how they've actually regrown a full finger recently, each cell should be protected by the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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