Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dayni said: Senno can learn duplicate. (Get yourself two Sennos) This is too amazing for the Spanish speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: Yup. But you have enough Options to deal with them. You can still buff yourself (which i didn't do in that fight) + higher tier skills/magic dealing more damage, for example Thank god. Otherwise we would've the modern Games problem: 4 Ultimate Attacks into gg. Or 3 magic attacks before boss first attack to take down half his hp. Honestly I dont believe enemy boss = perfect status immunity is a good idea. If you gotta design it like that, then that says the status effect itself needs to nefed to hell and back. Nothing should be as busted as the shit in CS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: Honestly I dont believe enemy boss = perfect status immunity is a good idea. If you gotta design it like that, then that says the status effect itself needs to nefed to hell and back. If you don't give them immunity tho we would've a CS problem tho. Just make the minions vulnerable 5 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: Nothing should be as busted as the shit in CS. straight facts. It's the most broken shit i ever saw in any game, ever. Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: The Mozu vs Niles one. I didn't want to bring it, I just mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: This is too amazing for the Spanish speaker. Oh my... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) It's not like me and Ruben started arguing over it again xD We have our differences, but we both appreciate the options Conquest gives us And i am just in total Trails war mood atm. Y'all awakened Falcom Fanbase Shirmp from his suppossed eternal slumber Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Nice! My message was used! At 3:48, right column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Middle or bottom one? Also Teehee reached Japan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Shrimpresident said: Middle or bottom one? Also Teehee reached Japan? My comment? At 3:48 it's the one showing up from the bottom. The one that begins "As a longtime fan..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said: Oh my... As if you weren't the first to make the joke, way back when 10 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: It's not like me and Ruben started arguing over it again xD We have our differences, but we both appreciate the options Conquest gives us Yeah, there's nobody in Conquest who is not viable. Everyone is fun in their own way, which is a great thing. Anyone's preferences over who feels more fun than others are purely subjective taste. Mine is better and everyone else is wrong if they disagree but eh, details. 10 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: And i am just in total Trails war mood atm. Y'all awakened Falcom Fanbase Shirmp from his suppossed eternal slumber Put a Derrick sticker over Trails and pretend it's Berwick Saga instead. Just... when in doubt, employ the Derrick sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Put a Derrick sticker over Trails and pretend it's Berwick Saga instead. Just... when in doubt, employ the Derrick sticker. Funny enough, when i played Berwick it did remind me of Trails a bit...Well, the good days of Trails lol It's probably one of the reasons i enjoyed it as much as i did 4 minutes ago, Saint Rubenio said: Yeah, there's nobody in Conquest who is not viable. Everyone is fun in their own way, which is a great thing. Anyone's preferences over who feels more fun than others are purely subjective taste Camilla Haters: Garon Apologists: Oh god, that Grin fits Garon too much lol Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: If you don't give them immunity tho we would've a CS problem tho. Just make the minions vulnerable straight facts. It's the most broken shit i ever saw in any game, ever. I understand that but consider the core, why should they have to? Why is a status a crutch like that in the first place? Tone them down and instead of them being instant win buttons, make them light negatives and then status can work while not being game breaking. Short version- fair status = better balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: I understand that but consider the core, why should they have to? Why is a status a crutch like that in the first place? Tone them down and instead of them being instant win buttons, make them light negatives and then status can work while not being game breaking. Short version- fair status = better balance. True But do you expact Modern Falcom to care about Balance? You played 4 of their games and saw how each game became worse with the balance Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 33 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: Funny enough, when i played Berwick it did remind me of Trails a bit...Well, the good days of Trails lol It's probably one of the reasons i enjoyed it as much as i did Trails in the Sky with good gameplay and less hateable people 33 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: Camilla Haters: Garon Apologists: Wait but I'm both-- Oh right I almost forgot, she's not even my least favorite Fates royal, not even close. What kind of an elitist am I... 33 minutes ago, Shrimpresident said: Oh god, that Grin fits Garon too much lol Garomori. Oh God, no please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acacia Sgt Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Okay, I actually laughed at Resplendent Florina... it's so out of place it's funny. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benice Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 'Morning! 1 hour ago, Acacia Sgt said: Nice! My message was used! At 3:48, right column. That's really cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcosmo Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Shrimpresident said: True But do you expact Modern Falcom to care about Balance? You played 4 of their games and saw how each game became worse with the balance Hell no, I havent found a single game yet that can get this right. Devs are blind to the most obvious issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 All right, this is the first brand new map of the run. The prologue's secret map, map 12. Yeah. 12. I'm... not sure why we start on 12, but hey, whatever you say, Vandal Hearts 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorneus Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, lightcosmo said: Hell no, I havent found a single game yet that can get this right. Devs are blind to the most obvious issues. Well, I think it's a rather largely spread opinion that turn-based RPGs are more prominent for the story than the gameplay. I think the decisions to give options to make them easier in a ridiculous manner over time reflects that attitude as well. Then again, I find video games in general have a tendency to be easier nowadays, apart from the times they go out of their way to be a difficult game or for indie games sometimes. I think it's simply an attempt to appeal to a wider audience, but then they hit a wall with the difficulty increases for the population who wants a challenge because they didn't think about that aspect in advance. Or they make a "challenge" more akin to torture because they want to create an impression of difficulty. Though it's more speculative talk through a handle of personal experiences without any factual research backing me, as I typically do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayni Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 TIL Detective Pikachu 2 is dead. For the last 8 months. Game's probably gone too. F for Owain voicing Pikachu again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rubenio Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dayni said: TIL Detective Pikachu 2 is dead. For the last 8 months. Game's probably gone too. F for Owain voicing Pikachu again. AAUUGH My aching pikapika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayni Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Just now, Saint Rubenio said: AAUUGH My aching pikapika The Thunder whispers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Lorneus said: apart from the times they go out of their way to be a difficult game or for indie games sometimes. I think it's simply an attempt to appeal to a wider audience I wouldn't have minded that if they didn't add difficulty settings akin to older games. I can live with an easy ''normal'' mode. But don't add a Nightmare mode that's as easy as the easy modes of older games. 36 minutes ago, Lorneus said: I think it's a rather largely spread opinion that turn-based RPGs are more prominent for the story than the gameplay. Maybe, but i can't really enjoy a story without atleast an acceptable gameplay. And i really really really loved older Trails gameplay. I wrote wall of texts, helped people, shared strats and even organized community playthroughs. It was a hell-ish but fun experience. And i wanted more. So once Cold Steel hit...I found myself streamrolling through everything. On the highest difficulty. And before anyone says ''Nostalgia/experience'', i played Crossbell after Cold Steel (due to lack of localizations), and while certainly, they were easier than Sky, they were miles harder than Cold Steel. Atleast fights required me to think and i had to respond to Ai actions (a rarity in Cold Steel). Maybe a bit too easy for Nightmare that made me bang my head in Sky quite a lot of times, but it was acceptable. And then, since you said people played for the story, the easy gameplay ruined many Story moments for me. In older games hard fights were usually hard. I got more immersed in the story because when the party was exhausted so was i. I felt i achieved something after i fought a hard boss for 20 Minutes, or had to get creative with the strats. Or the clutch win had me going ''YES!!!!!!!!!!''. In Cold steel every time a boss fight happened and the party was exhausted or went ''that was hard'' or anything like that i went ''What the fuck, you guys just streamrolled them'', and i was just bored. It ruined any Story moments that could've been good. The one time in Cold Steel Saga i had fun like the Sky days is when i faced a NG+ Boss with a NG only party, and i was like 40 levels underleveled! The fight took me an hour, but that was the only time in Cold Steel i remembered the Trails i loved. An interective gameplay is needed for a good Story. It's why for example in RD i don't mind the Greil Merc parts being easier because the Greil Mercs are more experienced, are op in the story as they were in the gameplay, so it all flowed well together. In that case the easier difficulty enhances the Story, for example, while Dawn brigade parts were harder because they are an inexperienced group, which also fits the story. You do remember i had the gameplay problem as well where due to lack of difficulty i didn't feel like Alm did anything. 1 hour ago, lightcosmo said: Hell no, I havent found a single game yet that can get this right. Devs are blind to the most obvious issues. It's more like they didn't even work on it and just rushed stuff and added stuff to say ''We upgraded it!!!'' Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename Shrimp Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Man, all that talk made me remember my old Trails NG Nightmare gang...i wonder how they are doing hmmm Also, the only good boss fight in the whole CS saga. Gained like 8-9 levels from that kek (from 106-107 to 115) Spoiler I even went back to the Thread to see my reaction, and it was ''SO FALCOM CAN STILL MAKE GOOD BOSS BATTLES, WHY AREN'T MORE LIKE THIS'' just like i remember lol Edited January 7, 2022 by Shrimpresident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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