Serenes Forest's Teehee Thread

[Sooks]

6 hours ago, lightcosmo said:

Oh you’re using a guide to play the game. Xd

Of course, who wants to miss all the hidden quests and dumb AP conditions because the game wants to be cryptic? Not me!

The only time I don’t use guides is if the game doesn’t have stuff that you could easily miss, like 13 Sentinels as an example off the top of my head.

5 hours ago, eclipse said:

Wait, there's a cult?

Yes, and if you’ve played the game, you’ve joined it, even unknowingly. And you should help us recruit more people, because 13 Sentinels is pretty good.

5 hours ago, Saint Rubenio said:

I still say it'd be a lot more effective if it didn't take an industrial drill to pry a general synopsis and a description of the gameplay out of you

But Ruben, I gave you one…

4 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

wasn't it me who got you into Trails....

Most people in the Thread actually, i got you all in, then i went out XD

equivalent exchange Ü

From what I remember, you were already out at that point

Why’d you even get us all into it anyway?

1 hour ago, Lightchao42 said:

This was actually first established in Sky the 3rd, in Campanella's trivia game.

Doing the math Jenis Royal Academy and Mercia Orphanage are 490 selge/49 kilometers apart, and Kloe goes back and forth between them regularly, so...

Did it establish the conversion factors between in-universe units of measurement though?

[Acacia Sgt]

Ugh, indeed, Haman has her Funnels attack now. Well, she's almost down. Good for me, as I'm like two-thirds done with the enemies, and it's still not turn three yet.

Also, I didn't noticed when it unlocked, but Harlock gained the Pirate Strategy command. For one turn, everyone gets a +20 boost to Hit/Def, and Charge is cast on everyone as well. Like Windam's Magic, it's a once per map deal.

[Acacia Sgt]

Okay, Haman Points Number Five and Six. Yes, this gives two points at once. Fa must defeat Mashymre. This could be an issue, but thankfully the Extra Arms equipment part exists, which ups a mech's strongest attack to 5500 power. Only works if the mech doesn't have an attack that high, but for the Methuss, this works.

Anyway, Mashymre has a curious reaction upon encountering Fa. He seems to feel... a presence not unlike Haman's, which makes his heart quiver despite facing an enemy. He doesn't take well to it, declaring he must get rid of it. Upon defeat, Haman tells him to withdraw, and despite an initial protest, he complies. At this the Shangri-La kids recognize him, commenting he's quite different from how he was back at the colony. Judau comments it's because of Haman, and wonders if there's truly nothing he can do about it.

[Interdimensional Observer]

17 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Oh, that close, huh. Still, yikes you had to resort to infinite SP again.

I didn't have to. It's not like one single enemy moved.🤨 There wasn't a situation like Zauther or Lemon either, where sooooo much inaccuracy and in Zauther's case regeneration, would've made it impossible or near impossible to win. I did it purely for convenience, cutting down the time on a big map with durable enemies.

17 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Ah, that stage is... quite memorable. Winding path with lots of Funnel spammers. Those 3-11 range attacks sure are lovely, eh.

Seeing so many Funnels leaves me wondering how they could be considered special at all. Kinda indirectly diminished the Nu and Sazabi, like, how didn't Sunrise come up with a Newtype weapon more special for those two? Even slapping the word "Fin" on it does little for the Nu for me from what little I know, the "Mother Funnels" of whatever used them sounded more advanced. -Although I acknowledge that the Jagd Dogas and Alpha Azierus the Robotpedia pages seem to have implied were never mass-produced in Gundam itself, though the MP Qubeleys still exist.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Interdimensional Observer

[eclipse]

12 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Ugh, indeed, Haman has her Funnels attack now. Well, she's almost down. Good for me, as I'm like two-thirds done with the enemies, and it's still not turn three yet.

Also, I didn't noticed when it unlocked, but Harlock gained the Pirate Strategy command. For one turn, everyone gets a +20 boost to Hit/Def, and Charge is cast on everyone as well. Like Windam's Magic, it's a once per map deal.

Pirate Strategy can enable some incredibly ridiculous things.  Imagine having battleships move and fire, and that's just the beginning.

[Acacia Sgt]

1 minute ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Seeing so many Funnels leaves me wondering how they could be considered special at all. Kinda indirectly diminished the Nu and Sazabi, like, how didn't Sunrise come up with a Newtype weapon more special for those two? Even slapping the word "Fin" on it does little for the Nu for me from what little I know, the "Mother Funnels" of whatever used them sounded more advanced. -Although I acknowledge that the Jagd Dogas and Alpha Azierus the Robotpedia pages seem to have implied were never mass-produced in Gundam itself, though the MP Qubeleys still exist.

Haha, indeed, it's SRW at work mass-producing stuff that wasn't. Still, keep in mind you were fighting Artificial Newtypes. Those were indeed a bit plentiful, specially under Neo Zeon. Making Funnels isn't the problem... the problem is finding Newtypes to use them. But when you can turn someone into a Newtype... well, matters little the risk of long-term mental instability. You need them short-term as soldiers and can be replaced at the worst. It's tragic... but well, it's war. Gundam, amirite!

Just now, eclipse said:

Pirate Strategy can enable some incredibly ridiculous things.  Imagine having battleships move and fire, and that's just the beginning.

Well, I already slap them with Hit & Away, hahaha. But yeah, this won't hurt to pile it over too either, hehehe.

[Acacia Sgt]

So, there's one more thing to this map that meets the eye. I'm pretty sure it was hinted in one of the Interruption Messages. Anyway, by moving the Arcadia to the tile that's 12 south and 1 west from the northeast corner of the map... a ship shows up. It's occupant, a man dressed in sailor's garb, start talking about the sea and how it's the best. And because wordplay shenanigans, Umi suddenly gets weirded out. lol Anyway, the man continues to ramble about the sea. Upon Harlock asking, he introduces himself as Kaiji, and states all who love the seas are friends and respects those who love freedom too. Then he hands out a couple power parts: A Fairy's Amulet and an Extra Arms. With one last THE SEA IS THE BEST, he departs. Leaving the group with a big "Huh."

Well, that was random. lol

Edited December 26, 2022 by Acacia Sgt

[eclipse]

Kaiji is the best character, just for those equips.  Both will be insanely useful.

[Acacia Sgt]

Yeah, I already had an Extra Arms, and it helped me right now against Mashymre, heh.

Alright, Hokushin, eat a Hell & Heaven! Smh, why no double Hell & Heaven with El Dora Team...

Alright, last Haman Point. Haman must be defeated. Okay Judau, you got this!

[eclipse]

Don't sweat it if you miss a Haman point or two.  You should have more than enough for her over the course of the game.

[Acacia Sgt]

Yeah, I saw I can get enough. It's one thing I'm liking of this game. Almost every secret is points related, but you can get enough no matter which routes you take.

Okay, so, she went down. Haman comments she let her mind waver. She accepts defeat and withdraws. Tobia and Judau cheer up Kamille, but he still thinks they could end up fighting forever without resolving anything. He comments it's Judau who Haman needs more. Inwardly Kamille admits he and Haman are too alike they're incompatible. Oh this dialogue. 

Okay, time to defeat Hokushin and rout... still on turn three of four...

[Interdimensional Observer]

1 minute ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Haha, indeed, it's SRW at work mass-producing stuff that wasn't. Still, keep in mind you were fighting Artificial Newtypes. Those were indeed a bit plentiful, specially under Neo Zeon. Making Funnels isn't the problem... the problem is finding Newtypes to use them. But when you can turn someone into a Newtype... well, matters little the risk of long-term mental instability. You need them short-term as soldiers and can be replaced at the worst. It's tragic... but well, it's war. Gundam, amirite!

Reminding me of the point you made in the past that GBA Lammy was a Cyber Newtype. The implications of being able to make androids with that capacity if you ran with it would be huge. You could bypass the "human experimentation is cruel!" moral dilemma by claiming "these aren't human, they're puppets" as an excuse. And you could churn them out fast with easy replacement, just open another factory. Seems like a path of alliance not explored with Shadow Mirror and Neo Zeon.

[Armagon]

More alt-righters should do NFTs then.

Promoting fascist ideals? A OK. But selling NFTs, now that's just going too far.

1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

It will be the first VN I've ever played I think. Ought to test my text tolerance levels to their limit.😆

And even then, there's still actual gameplay so your VN tolerance levels would be biased somewhat.

1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

They're really going to bring in Shadow???😐

They're probably not bringing in the Maria backstory but yeah.

[Acacia Sgt]

3 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Reminding me of the point you made in the past that GBA Lammy was a Cyber Newtype. The implications of being able to make androids with that capacity if you ran with it would be huge. You could bypass the "human experimentation is cruel!" moral dilemma by claiming "these aren't human, they're puppets" as an excuse. And you could churn them out fast with easy replacement, just open another factory. Seems like a path of alliance not explored with Shadow Mirror and Neo Zeon.

That said, being androids might be a way to bypass the whole issue about Artificial Newtypes. Still, the mental instability isn't a sure thing. Well, I don't remember if in Gundam it ever happened, but at the very least SRW goes the route that an Artificial Newtype can remain sane.

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Alright, turn four. Only Hokushin is left. Got to make sure Akito deals the finishing blow...

[Interdimensional Observer]

11 minutes ago, Armagon said:

They're probably not bringing in the Maria backstory but yeah.

The human-beast love isn't all of the concern (though it did foreShadow '06's big NO!). I mean it sure is part of it, but defining quite how Shadow, even in his SA2 incarnation, began posing a potential narrative direction(?) issue for the series... I'm not entirely sure how I'd define it.

You speaking of Shadow wasn't entire bad though. I did imagine how one could potentially twist SA1 and SA2 together by declaring the Eclipse Cannon and Shadow as being initially created as countermeasures against the possibility of the emergence of Perfect Chaos (ignoring that Perfect Chaos requires all the Emeralds that the Cannon requires to power it).

Edited December 26, 2022 by Interdimensional Observer

[GuardianSing]

3 hours ago, Armagon said:

if Isekai are about power fantasy, then when are they gonna make one where the power fantasy is being able to dismantle the slave trade.

 

[Acacia Sgt]

And done! My Haman Points tally should be eight now if I did everything right. But yeah, not much of a concern. There's still plenty of wiggle room.

Anyway, Hokushin leaves, but not before taunting Akito some more to give in to his anger. In the end, Haman got away, but Kamille and Judau say it's fine. Her death won't end the war anyway, but ending it is still a priority. The Mazinger and Getter teams are happy to see the younger generation take such path, and even Bright thinks how Amuro should be here to see it, and that both he and Haman should just move on from Char.

Once everyone is back on board, it's now a settled thing: The Arcadia and her crew will be sticking around. Tochiro even present over a skull and crossbones flag as a token of Harlock's trust. The Newtypes again bring up on the influence Char had on Kamille and Haman, and how Kamille in turn influences Judau. Still, Judau ain't exactly happy that the Haman issues is being dumped on him, heh, and reminds Tobia that he too is in Haman's good graces, which... Oh lol, this talk again. They do bring up that Haman has a soft spot for kids and compare her to a doting big sister. I mean, with Mineva is one thing, but Judau (and now poor Tobia got roped into this too XD)... yeah, even Tobia just can't picture it. lololol Still, Kamille still thinks Judau can be the one to save her. Her anger may be directed to Quattro/Char, but she senses kindness instead from Judau and that may be the key... thus the stage ends...

Oh, the flag is an actual power part? Nice! Okay, stopping for today. Will continue tomorrow.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Acacia Sgt

[Acacia Sgt]

17 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

if Isekai are about power fantasy, then when are they gonna make one where the power fantasy is being able to dismantle the slave trade.

 

Something something The Modern Man's Burden something something

Well, actually... okay, I'll admit I haven't really seen much Isekai works where this topic is brought up.

Maybe it's up to you to write it. Be the trailblazer!

[GuardianSing]

Alright, I'm diving headfirst into the final chapters of PoR. Wish me luck!

8 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Maybe it's up to you to write it. Be the trailblazer!

The funny thing is that I actual have. Well I mean, it's not an Isekai but it's about a ragtag team of socialists John Browning their way across the 16th century attacking slave ships and freeing those in captivity.

That's why I don't think power fantasy is inherently bad, but there is a significant difference between "I want to have the power to genuinely change the world for the better" and "I want to have the power to kill a bunch of dudes and own slaves"

[Acacia Sgt]

Now that I think about it... would A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court count? I only know the general gist of it, admittedly.

1 minute ago, Edelguardiansing said:

The funny thing is that I actual have. Well I mean, it's not an Isekai but it's about a ragtag team of socialists John Browning their way across the 16th century attacking slave ships and freeing those in captivity.

That's why I don't think power fantasy is inherently bad, but there is a significant difference between "I want to have the power to genuinely change the world for the better" and "I want to have the power to kill a bunch of dudes and own slaves"

Ah, don't we all. Specially in recent times...

[Acacia Sgt]

Hehehe

https://imgur.com/a/fwqAaLA

[Benice]

19 minutes ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Hehehe

https://imgur.com/a/fwqAaLA

Me when there's a math test

[Benice]

34 minutes ago, Edelguardiansing said:

The funny thing is that I actual have. Well I mean, it's not an Isekai but it's about a ragtag team of socialists John Browning their way across the 16th century attacking slave ships and freeing those in captivity.

Dangit, now I need an isekai series where the main character goes into cartoons with racist depictions of colored people and starts civil rights movements in those universes.

And wizards.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Benice

[Sooks]

5 hours ago, Shrimpy -Limited Edition- said:

 

 

Oh god demonic beasts or some iteration of them!

Please don’t get tedious this time (not that I know how they would fix that issue, tbh).

[eclipse]

2 hours ago, Acacia Sgt said:

Oh, the flag is an actual power part? Nice! Okay, stopping for today. Will continue tomorrow.

Yes, very good power part!  I'm quite fond of it.