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[shadowofchaos]

1 minute ago, Anacybele said:

Wow, what a drama llama you're being. Seriously. :/

You never know if that -3 speed will hurt you in a battle where units can have a lot of different skillsets now thanks to inheritance.

Ana, if you were at the point to be worrying about that, you'd be at the top of the arena rankings and we'd be asking you for advice about natures.

You are neither at the point of optimization nor a whale to throw away 5 star units based on nature. It makes you sound ungrateful.

This is a fire emblem forum. You are going to get ripped on optimization if you're going to try to justify your dislike of something via gameplay or optimization.

[MrSmokestack]

1 minute ago, Anacybele said:

I also try to work with what I have. I was actually thinking of using that Eirika if her boon and bane were good, but they weren't. You can't always work with what you get.

And I don't have to accept what other people say. If they're all upset and want to whine about that, that's not my fault.

Well then, you don't get an answer to that question.

Quite frankly that first statement is a blatant lie. You work only what you want to work with, not with whatever you get. If you did, you wouldn't have sent whatever units you have sent home at this point already, let alone Eirika.

 

And when I used the phrase "accept what other people said", I was not intending that you must agree with us, that we must be right and you are the one in the wrong. Rather, I meant that it may be wise to defer to people with more experience in arena, who have played in the higher levels, who have made deathless runs and hit the 4k mark, when it comes to looking for help and deciding what you can do with your units.

As for that last statement, well, that's quite the low blow.

[Shiro]

2 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Quite frankly that first statement is a blatant lie. You work only what you want to work with, not with whatever you get. If you did, you wouldn't have sent whatever units you have sent home at this point already, let alone Eirika.

 

And when I used the phrase "accept what other people said", I was not intending that you must agree with us, that we must be right and you are the one in the wrong. Rather, I meant that it may be wise to defer to people with more experience in arena, who have played in the higher levels, who have made deathless runs and hit the 4k mark, when it comes to looking for help and deciding what you can do with your units.

As for that last statement, well, that's quite the low blow.

so um what is low tier whale status? xD and sent home an ericka 0.0 that is crazy xD like she has very inheritable abilities

[Anacybele]

8 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Quite frankly that first statement is a blatant lie. You work only what you want to work with, not with whatever you get. If you did, you wouldn't have sent whatever units you have sent home at this point already, let alone Eirika.

 

And when I used the phrase "accept what other people said", I was not intending that you must agree with us, that we must be right and you are the one in the wrong. Rather, I meant that it may be wise to defer to people with more experience in arena, who have played in the higher levels, who have made deathless runs and hit the 4k mark, when it comes to looking for help and deciding what you can do with your units.

As for that last statement, well, that's quite the low blow.

Hey, calling me a liar is completely unnecessary and rude. If I was only working with what I truly wanted to work with, then literally the only units I would have/be using right now are Frederick, Stahl, and Sharena. Everyone else would've been gone because I don't care about them as much. I have a soft spot for Hawkeye now, but I didn't at first.

What do you mean low blow? I don't see an insult or anything there. Only that I couldn't answer your question by your terms.

I didn't send Eirika home, I had Palla inherit some of her skills... I've said this more than once.

Also, I've seen people say they sent home Ephraims and Camillas and other units that are meant to be good. Why am I the only one who's getting complaints about such a thing?

Edited March 17, 2017 by Anacybele

[shadowofchaos]

16 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

And I don't have to accept what other people say. If they're all upset and want to whine about that, that's not my fault.

Most of the flak you get in here is your own fault.

You neither have contributions to discussion, nor the willingness to learn.

Character wise we can't do anything about your opinions since they're subjective.

But since most of your statements have related to gameplay... most people here that have more experience have pretty much criticized your notions to hell and back.

Sometimes I get the feeling that you like all the attention you get from arguments in this forum. You don't post to get help or input. You want your input out there for everyone to see.

Edited March 17, 2017 by shadowofchaos

[Anacybele]

1 minute ago, shadowofchaos said:

Most of the flak you get in here is your own fault.

It's not though. I don't make people respond to my posts with complaints and whining. They choose to do that. I don't control their actions.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Anacybele

[Shiro]

2 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Hey, calling me a liar is completely unnecessary and rude. If I was only working with what I truly wanted to work with, then literally the only units I would have/be using right now are Frederick, Stahl, and Sharena. Everyone else would've been gone because I don't care about them as much. I have a soft spot for Hawkeye now, but I didn't at first.

What do you mean low blow? I don't see an insult or anything there. Only that I couldn't answer your question by your terms.

I didn't send Eirika home, I had Palla inherit some of her skills... I've said this more than once.

Also, I've seen people say they sent home Ephraims and Camillas and other units that are meant to be good. Why am I the only one who's getting complaints about such a thing?

sorry only saw mrsmokestack say you sent home a ericka not inherit. ive used ericka for inheritance food and a lot of 5*s as food for inheritance skills xD

[pianime94]

Honestly tho, from my experience, having a shitty boon bane could actually save your skin sometimes.

Like my Reinhardt and Julia who has a +HP (41 hp at max) getting doubled for 20x2 lol. Their HP boon is literally the only reason I can pit Julia against Tharja (even though she has -Atk) and have whatever Red Lords double Reinhardt without needing me worrying about it.

Edited March 17, 2017 by pianime94

[Thor Odinson]

24 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

I've gone against a team with two Eirikas. More than once. Was never an issue. She went down easy. Didn't even double my units much, now that I think about it. She's not S tier at all. lol

This is a very unfair way to rate units. Units tend to be significantly worse in the hands of the AI than the player. By this logic I could say Hector is shit because I walk Ryoma up to him, sit down, take a picnic, and he just dies, when he's incredibly powerful in the hands of the player. Nino's ridiculously good with a properly built team and as a player I know to keep her as buffed as possible, and I can pull off shit like oneshotting Linde through lava and not give a fuck, but the AI doesn't pile buffs nearly as well and then i park Ryoma in her range and she dies, not a threat at all. (Conversely Enemy Ryoma himself is easy taken care of by Player Reinhardt, Sully, Abel, Effie, or Linde. Most units tend to have counters)

Two of any single unit in defense (bar like Takumi or something--hell, 2 Takumis is very easy with my team comp) is often not a good idea anyway and that person either really likes Eirika or doesn't have many other 5*s. If I went against a team of 2 Hectors I'd have a field day, but again, Hector is very good when used by something that's not a computer. 

Edited March 17, 2017 by Thor Odinson

[Vaximillian]

1 minute ago, Anacybele said:

I don't make people respond to my posts with complaints and whining.

(even though it's your posts that are usually exactly that)

[MrSmokestack]

1 minute ago, Anacybele said:

Hey, calling me a liar is completely unnecessary and rude. If I was only working with what I truly wanted to work with, then literally the only units I would have/be using right now are Frederick, Stahl, and Sharena. Everyone else would've been gone because I don't care about them as much. I have a soft spot for Hawkeye now, but I didn't at first.

What do you mean low blow? I don't see an insult or anything there. Only that I couldn't answer your question by your terms.

I didn't send Eirika home, I had Palla inherit some of her skills... I've said this more than once.

Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say.

I did not accuse you of being a liar. I called out your tendency to send units home with your claim to "work with what you have" as being very contradictory.

And I know that you had Eirika used as inheritace fodder for Palla. To be honest that's worse than sending them home because you traded 1k feathers for skills you need to grind for. But I digress.

And refusing to answer a question might not necessarily be rude, but it wasn't the response I hoped for. Apologies.

[Anacybele]

Just now, Shiro said:

sorry only saw mrsmokestack say you sent home a ericka not inherit. ive used ericka for inheritance food and a lot of 5*s as food for inheritance skills xD

Yet you're not getting complaints and criticism. Why am I always the only one getting this treatment?

[Shiro]

2 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Yet you're not getting complaints and criticism. Why am I always the only one getting this treatment?

maybe its the way you word it? idk it is true some of the things you post can have a negative vibe to it. and although you dont intend to make it negative others see it as such.

[pianime94]

2 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Yet you're not getting complaints and criticism. Why am I always the only one getting this treatment?

Shiro is a whale.

He could get a billions of Eirika if he wants to. Different matter.

[shadowofchaos]

4 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Yet you're not getting complaints and criticism. Why am I always the only one getting this treatment?

They're a whale.

And most likely high up in the arena.

They have the luxury of nitpicking natures.

Not to mention they never called the unit bad.

[Shiro]

3 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said:

Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say.

I did not accuse you of being a liar. I called out your tendency to send units home with your claim to "work with what you have" as being very contradictory.

And I know that you had Eirika used as inheritace fodder for Palla. To be honest that's worse than sending them home because you traded 1k feathers for skills you need to grind for. But I digress.

And refusing to answer a question might not necessarily be rude, but it wasn't the response I hoped for. Apologies.

my ericka is a 4* btw so i would only get 300 feathers :3 i have used kagero and elise as inherit food cause some skills you can only get when they are 5* which is why i think using 5*s as skill inheritance is viable.

[MrSmokestack]

@Shiro

The "Low-Tier Whale" in my status is a bit tongue-in-cheek, if you must know

[Shiro]

Just now, MrSmokestack said:

@Shiro

The "Low-Tier Whale" in my status is a bit tongue-in-cheek, if you must know

ah xD sounds good 

[Anacybele]

8 minutes ago, Thor Odinson said:

This is a very unfair way to rate units. Units tend to be significantly worse in the hands of the AI than the player. By this logic I could say Hector is shit because I walk Ryoma up to him, sit down, take a picnic, and he just dies, when he's incredibly powerful in the hands of the player. Nino's ridiculously good with a properly built team and as a player I know to keep her as buffed as possible, and I can pull off shit like oneshotting Linde through laval and not give a fuck, but the AI doesn't pile buffs nearly as well and then i park Ryoma in her range and she dies, not a threat at all.

Two of any single unit in defense (bar like Takumi or something--hell, 2 Takumis is very easy with my team comp) is often not a good idea anyway and that person either really likes Eirika or doesn't have many other 5*s. If I went against a team of 2 Hectors I'd have a field day, but again, Hector is very good when used by something that's not a computer. 

Hey, he did say he "couldn't wait to see me get decimated by Eirika teams in the arena." The arena teams you face are controlled by the AI. I was just responding to that.

8 minutes ago, Vaximillian said:

(even though it's your posts that are usually exactly that)

Now this is just harassment and uncalled for, regardless of what I've done or said.

4 minutes ago, Shiro said:

maybe its the way you word it? idk it is true some of the things you post can have a negative vibe to it. and although you dont intend to make it negative others see it as such.

It was negative, but I don't know how it couldn't be that way.

Why do people call players who spend money whales? That's silly to me. Also, I plan to spend some more money on the game when I have an income again. I've already spent some twice before I had to leave my job.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Anacybele

[Locke087]

26 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

I've gone against a team with two Eirikas. More than once. Was never an issue. She went down easy. Didn't even double my units much, now that I think about it. She's not S tier at all. lol

She is S according to almost every site (all the reputable ones anyways), that is because utility is greater than unit power and she has permanent utility along with perfectly decent stats. With certain builds Erika becomes absolutely despicable if you have, any blade tomes, Kagero, and quite a number of other people all benefit from her buffs, she is a buffing machine. But hey only run 5* Nino and Kargero  and did several no death with them, what would I know about what turns them from good into absolute monsters of destruction.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Locke087

[Arcanite]

Before Eclipse comes in and hand out warning points, you guys should probably stop derailing the thread so anyone typing make this your last post before eclipse catches your tail!

[shadowofchaos]

7 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Now this is just harassment and uncalled for, regardless of what I've done or said.

This is not. It's a simple statement of what you've done.

It's also mostly correct.

Since Heroes' release, your posts and threads have been "Complain about X" and members correct you.

You've been a giant source of negativity for every banner release thread and here.

Moving on:

Since there is a whale in here...

@Shiro

How often do you get 4 star Roys on red pulls?

I think he's the only one with Triangle Adept 3 on 4 star.

Edited March 17, 2017 by shadowofchaos

[Anacybele]

1 minute ago, Locke087 said:

She is S according to almost every site (all the reputable ones anyways), that is because utility is greater than unit power and she has permanent utility along with perfectly decent stats. With certain builts Erika becomes absolutely despicable if you have, any blade tomes, Kagero, and quite a number of other people all benefit from her buffs, she is a buffing machine. Hey only run 5* Nino and Kargero what would I know about what turns them from good into absolute monsters of destruction.

I don't have any of those other units you listed. So it looks like I wouldn't have been able to use her to her fullest anyway.

Can people just leave me alone now and let me play the game the way I want to?

EDIT: Oh, so it's my fault that the banners that have gone up haven't been ones I've liked much? It's my fault that the game just HAPPENED to start with characters from games I don't care as much about compared to others?

Edited March 17, 2017 by Anacybele

[MrSmokestack]

Just now, Arcanite said:

Before Eclipse comes in and hand out warning points, you guys should probably stop derailing the thread so anyone typing make this your last post before eclipse catches your tail!

I briefly skimmed the posts on this topic from last night and they weren't any better than what's here now.

 

But apologies, I will stop posting about it here.

[Vaximillian]

6 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Now this is just harassment and uncalled for, regardless of what I've done or said.

It's just a recap of what you've done and said.

6 minutes ago, Anacybele said:

Why do people call players who spend money whales? That's silly to me.

A whale is a gambler who wagers massive amounts of money. They are a big catch to the “sharks” of the casino, and the smaller “fish” are regular players.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Vaximillian