Kamen Rider Ryuuki Mafia - Game Over

[Deliriyum]

13th, why did you claim fool again?

Did you ever explain why you claimed fool for no reason?

I'm sorry, I had to get this in here <____<

That only made me more uneasy /:

It's okay though. The only reason I can see myself as suspicious is because I voted for easy mafia lynch targets. I have my beliefs in this game and I'm sticking to them.

[13th]

I was hyped up on caffeine, high strung to hell, got voted for what looked like sound reasons, and got hysterical. Then I thought of Fool. We already had the midday Persuasion, so I thought "Why not? Maybe it will work. If anything, it'll get Mafia votes off of me, because they wouldn't want me to win. Then maybe I can turn this around for a little, using that to find Scum."

So I tried it, it failed, and I turned into Emo 13th. Then I went, had a New Year's Party, came home on several more cans of Mountain Dew and therefore Caffeine, crashed, and then woke up with a clear head. I decided I had a small chance of pulling myself out of this hole.

So there is the story of the last 10 pages.

[Percivalé]

I was hyped up on caffeine, high strung to hell, got voted for what looked like sound reasons, and got hysterical.

I know how this feels !!

[13th]

Letting you know I will be AFK until 8:30-9:00 MST.

Harry Potter And the Deathly Hallows Part 2.

I will read any updates then. See ya then!

[eclipse]

IT CONTINUES!

Page 16: 13th isn't having fun, but will stick this game out anyway (A/N: THANK YOU!) Rapier is confused, and so am I. Sho pulls the mother of all WIFOMs. Core is confused. Furet is confu--waitaminute, you're not playing! 13th asks to be lynched. Core facepalms and votes for 13th. Bizz thinks 13th is a frustrated townie. Iris thinks that 13th giving up isn't helpful, and that he should really consider a sub. Bizz thinks Core's driving an easy mislynch. 13th then claims Fool. More Rapier explanation which doesn't condense nicely. Sho isn't gonna move his vote. Bizz facepalms at 13th's new claim, then votes for him, then realizes that 13th might make a better vig target. Core thinks 13th deserves to win if he's the fool. 13th doesn't want to win, and goes emo about it.

Page 17: Rapier thinks 13th's reverse logic is awesome, and votes him. Core can't figure out if everyone should unvote 13th because he doesn't deserve to win. Iris is confused, but does votals anyway, and asks about numbers. Shinori is clueless. JB would rather have 13th quote his wincon, and unvotes him and votes Sho for being defensive of 13th. Core is confused by JB's last post. Apparently, so is JB, as he unvotes. Blitz has a life, forgot to close the browser, and thinks that 13th is telling the truth, then tries to get into 13th's head. Core thinks that reading the names at the bottom is a waste of time. Nightmare does a bit of WIFOM, and isn't sure if 13th is scum. I can't summarize this post by Kay nicely, so here. Nightmare kinda said something similar, but worded it badly? Sho wants 13th lynched.

Page 18: Grammar fail. Kay doesn't see why leaving 13th alive is risky. Sho thinks that 13th is derailing things, but is also not opposed to a Nightmare lynch. Kay is happy that people are talking. Summary 1, while drunk! Sho thinks 13th has derailed things by being confusing. Kay thinks that 13th being an emo fool does that, and would rather look at Shinori and Rein. Sho thinks that talking about such things would derail things further. Kay tells him to go for it. Opinion list by Sho. Kay follows. Blitz answers questions posted WAY back on page. . .ugh, I forget. JB's opinions. Strawman's info dump. Shinori exists, and needs to pay more attention. Core's opinions, then tries to explain to Shinori WTF is going on. Dammit Rapier, stop quoting long posts!

Page 19: Shinori is confused. Core, post more awesome stuff like this. Sho can't spell persuader. Strawman is confused, and thinks that lynching Nightmare isn't going to help us in regards to the persuader. WTF 13th. Rein's thoughts. Sho still thinks that lynching Nightmare and killing 13th are good ideas. I hate this GIF. Shinori needs to go to bed. JB votes for 13th for being a stupid persuader. Logic by Sho. Kaoz is more useful than a good portion of the game. 13th's thoughts. Rapier thinks that Sho is the mafia persuader, given his logic about "let's all lynch Nightmare, since Rein's been persuaded". Stop whining 13th. Strawman is confused about Rapier's logic. Rein needs to crap rainbows. 13th then votes for Sho based on Rapier's post.

(A/N: My head really hurts)

Page 20: 13th missed Rein's post. Rapier says that if 13th isn't the persuader, then the real one's trying to get Nightmare lynched (i.e. Sho), and thinks that Sho isn't an idiot. A very useful post by 13th. Too bad he can't multiquote (I'll explain this later). I go a bit off-topic. Rapier votes Sho because he thinks the latter's the persuader. Strawman thinks 13th would be more useful lynched, and votes. Kay thinks Nightmare needs to get in here and be useful, and gives some advice to 13th. Nightmare's a bit confused, so Kay clarifies. Logic by Sho. Blitz thinks Sho is "never what he acts like". Kay poses a bunch of questions to Nightmare. Core thinks Rapier's thought process makes no sense.

I'll do the last part of this in the next post, wheneever I'm done with it.

[Deliriyum]

Eclipse when you've finished summarizing(thanks, btw) can you give us some of your opinions? I don't actually recall you giving input in several pages. I'm curious to know your thoughts.

[eclipse]

First, guys, get this drilled into your skulls: PERSUADER

Page 21: Parse fail. I have no idea what Blitz is talking about. Nightmare answers Kay's questions. Bunch of stuff from Blitz. Rapier finds Nightmare's inactivity and vagueness creepy. Nightmare asks Rapier to expound. Blitz wants a votal. Core says that Nightmare played like this in FE4, but he thinks that Nightmare is town, for now. Blitz things Nightmare is being inactive. The last part of this post explains Rapier's logic of Sho nicely. Nightmare hadn't planned on using inactivity in FE4 as a strategy. Strawman thinks Kay is scummy because of her earlier actions regarding Rapier and me, and thinks Rapier has lousy logic. Rapier thinks Nightmare doesn't talk a lot, and talks vaguely, while using himself as a comparison. Core strongly agrees with Strawman. How many parse errrors are on this page?!

Page 22: Blitz considers the possibility that both Sho and 13th are mafia, and covering for each other. Rapier stands by his logic. Core says that Sho is pushing for a 13th lynch. Huh?. Rapier repeats that Sho isn't stupid. Logic by Kay. Strawman's answer to Rapier. Blitz unvotes because there's too many votes for 13th. Strawman unvotes, among other things. Sho wants to know who the lynch du jour is. Blitz wants to push Shinori. Sho agrees. Rapier says that Shinori is busy. Sho wants to lynch Nightmare again.

Page 23: Blitz points out that Nightmare stopped talking after he removed his vote. Summary the second. Blitz thinks I'm being inactive. Shinori info dump. Core wants 13th lynched, because he's either an uninterested town persuader or mafia. Content by 13th, which I can't really summarize. Bunch of stuff by Rapier. Core says he's trying to help. Bizz says she'll be busy. 13th thinks Sho is scummy, but not scummy enough to vote, so he unvotes. Bizz is confused. Sho goes deep into WIFOM. Bizz is still confused. Answers by Shinori. Stuff from Iris, including votals. 13th is confusing about himself, Sho, and explains his logic about Rapier nicely.

Page 24: Bizz isn't quite sure what to think of people. 13th's post is split in two, and contains a bunch of replies. Bizz calls 13th Kay a hypocrite. Parse error. Bizz doesn't think a list from her will be helpful until she can get better reads on everyone. 13th redoes his list. Bizz says she's useless on D1, and votes for Core for making her uneasy. Core says, uh, something. Rapier wants to know if 13th is the persuader or not. 13th affirms, and will probably make the funny quote collection for that response. Rapier is still bothered by Sho. Rein isn't happy about the Nightmare wagon, and thinks 13th is scummy for being stupid about his claims. Bizz isn't happy with 13th's claim, and Core's one-line response to her vote. Core says the reason why he looks scummy is because he's been voting for easy lynch targets, but believes in his votes. Uh, explanation by 13th? Summary Part 3.

Page 25: Core wants my opinions.

THANKS A BUNCH GUYS, I HAVE HALF A MIND TO GO DRINKING. Now that I'm done with that, I'll post something more relevant in the next post. . .after taking notes on the important things that happened during the day.

[Strawman]

Those summaries really are quite helpful Eclipse. (And quite funny to read imo)

I was totally going to ask Eclipse to share her opinions but Core beat me to it. Is it just me or have we been having eerily similar and agreeable thoughts this game?

Anyways, I'm not liking sitting here without a vote out there, so I'm going to ##Vote: Sho

You were pretty focused on Nightmare for a good portion of the game, even to the point of tunneling. You haven't really seemed to discuss much of anything else, which is not very helpful for the town. There was also a page or two where none of your posts were really relevant to the game, iirc. Your logic for the Nightmare vote also was not all that sound with 13th's claim.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

Those summaries really are quite helpful Eclipse. (And quite funny to read imo)

I was totally going to ask Eclipse to share her opinions but Core beat me to it. Is it just me or have we been having eerily similar and agreeable thoughts this game?

Anyways, I'm not liking sitting here without a vote out there, so I'm going to ##Vote: Sho

You were pretty focused on Nightmare for a good portion of the game, even to the point of tunneling. You haven't really seemed to discuss much of anything else, which is not very helpful for the town. There was also a page or two where none of your posts were really relevant to the game, iirc. Your logic for the Nightmare vote also was not all that sound with 13th's claim.

I am having serious trouble with not losing my bet.

I go bag to nighty BECAUSE CERTAIN SOMEONE KEEPS ASKING ABOUT IT. How many times have I said there theories were for time before 13th's claim. Of course the reasoning is not sound after 13th claim if it was made before it.

My current issue with nighty is him saying whole lot of nothing

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

bag -> back

[eclipse]

First. . .if you wanna quote things from multiple people, open up the "Reply" link in different tabs, and copypasta and reply accordingly.

All right, time to break this down by what I remember from the players.

1. D4V3 (Rein) - Sucks you were persuaded. Is doing the usual Rein thing of popping in to be minorly useful, and popping out.

2. JB - Like Rein, pops in to argue with the obvious stupidity, and pops out. It's currently stupid o'clock for him, so I'll wait.

3. eclipse - I'm tempted to get drunk.

4. Core - Has his own logic, but the thing that sticks out most for me is his lack of response to Bizz's vote, which isn't a good thing IMO.

5. Bizz - Can't get a read on people, and seems busy/tired/whatever.

6. Shinori - Pops in to answer questions, then pops out.

7. Nightmare - Hasn't really said much about people who are uneasy about his inactivity. This worries me just a little.

8. Kay - Hopped on two early bandwagons, then decided to talk instead of vote.

9. Rapier - His Sho logic is odd, as was his refusal to do scumhunting early on. He kept pushing Sho based on his awful logic so IDK.

10. Blitz - I can't understand half of what he says, and his constant fluff posting is a HUGE distraction.

11. Iris - Currently keeping tabs on votals, and contributes a bit whenever she shows up. I do wish she'd stop mentioning me in every post

12. Strawman - When he appears, he either dismantles bad logic, or attempts to contribute his own.

13. 13th - Make up your mind, dude. He'll get in a post or two of decent logic, then he'll go right back to being random.

14. Sho - Man, where do I begin? Thinks lynching the persuader target will be useful, gave that up, and is trying to get Nightmare lynched again. Seriously, WTF?

Uh, player ranking, by most to least scummy? I'll let you guys place me.

Strawman - He may not have a lot of posts, but he's been helpful when he has been posting.

Iris - See above, but her constant mention of me makes me feel a bit odd.

Bizz - Seems honestly confused about everything. Not that I blame her.

Rein/JB - Both have come in, posted a little, and left. These two need to contribute more.

Nightmare - Part of me blames his connection. I think he needs to respond to those people who think he's not contributing.

Core - He was doing okay, until he decided to ignore Bizz's vote.

Kay - I am not particularly happy with the way she bandwagoned twice, early, especially on my bandwagon.

Shinori - Needs to exist. Seriously.

Rapier - I did not like his early refusal to scumhunt and bandwagon. He did try pointing something out about Sho being opportunistic. . .ugh, if it wasn't for the fact that everyone below him looks worse, I'd vote him right now.

13th - I don't like the fact that he kept changing his story. Since he can't make up his mind, and town persuader is a bleh role, he makes a good vig target.

Sho/Blitz - Sho's WIFOM on Nightmare was horribad, as was his accusation that JB was trying to derail discussion. Blitz has the most posts with the least amount of content. I get the feeling he's trying to make up for quality by using quantity, and I do not like that.

Post spam vs. screwy logic. . .oh, why can't I vote for both of them. . .ugh.

##Unvote

##Vote: Sho

Stop trying to get Nightmare lynched based on bad WIFOM, and start paying attention to everyone else.

[Deliriyum]

...I've heard this story before...

This was my response to the vote. I said this in reference to another mafia game(for the life of me I can't find it!) where she said something nearly identical but had very little to back up her suspicions of me.

[Rapier]

At least someone saw that Sho's insistance on voting Nightmare is odd.

9. Rapier - His Sho logic is odd, as was his refusal to do scumhunting early on. He kept pushing Sho based on his awful logic so IDK.

14. Sho - Man, where do I begin? Thinks lynching the persuader target will be useful, gave that up, and is trying to get Nightmare lynched again. Seriously, WTF?

Rapier - I did not like his early refusal to scumhunt and bandwagon. He did try pointing something out about Sho being opportunistic. . .ugh, if it wasn't for the fact that everyone below him looks worse, I'd vote him right now.

I didn't refuse to scumhunt, don't be ignorant. >_>

Sho isn't opportunistic. He made the opportunity himself. He was the only one so obsessed on lynching Nightmare.

[Shinori]

Sub please. Im going through some real life issues and i don't have the mental ability to do this. At all.

[Rapier]

Sub please. Im going through some real life issues and i don't have the mental ability to do this. At all.

I hope you get to solve them fast, man. ^^

See ya.

[Shinori]

My new years and xmas have been hectic. Im just needing to fix stuff. I most likely will not be playing any mafia games for a while.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

clipsey, did you notice the part where i suggest PRESSURING, not killing nighty because he is silent NOT BECAUSE WIFOM.

as I have oh so many times said the persuade thing is old yet people keep getting back to it. Im starting to get seriously pissed here

[eclipse]

Multi-quoting lessons~!

This was my response to the vote. I said this in reference to another mafia game(for the life of me I can't find it!) where she said something nearly identical but had very little to back up her suspicions of me.

Don't brush such things off; instead, ask why.

At least someone saw that Sho's insistance on voting Nightmare is odd.

I didn't refuse to scumhunt, don't be ignorant. >_>

Sho isn't opportunistic. He made the opportunity himself. He was the only one so obsessed on lynching Nightmare.

Here. Let me refresh your memory.

Would you really be so mean as to send 6 prepromoted reinforcements per turn? D:

##Vote: Eclipse

Because I have no one else in mind. How could I? And we need results, soo...

As I said before, how the hell am I supposed to judge who's scummy or not when I A) Don't know how everyone plays and B) It's fucking Day 1 and there are no clues. ? As I said before, we need results and you have a bunch of votes. Sheepish? No, I'd rather vote someone who seems to be most suspicious/scummy (or else why would they vote on you?) than vote on No Lynch, unless a better target shows up. Sorry, but my vote stands for now.

The first one tells me you didn't bother looking at the rest of the game. The second one tells me you aren't interested in doing your own research. Not looking at the game, and not doing your own research is extremely detrimental to the town. . .since scumhunting relies on both.

clipsey, did you notice the part where i suggest PRESSURING, not killing nighty because he is silent NOT BECAUSE WIFOM.

as I have oh so many times said the persuade thing is old yet people keep getting back to it. Im starting to get seriously pissed here

What the fuck?

Seriously? THAT'S your defense? Your past posts are what I use to scumhunt, and you look like crap in them. My vote stays.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

phhh relax princess K breath in and out. oh fuck that

Notice what ALL THOSE GOD DAMN MESSAGES HAVE IN COMMON? THEY INCLUDE ME BEING ASKED ABOUT PERSUATOR/NIGHTY THING AND I ANSWER! AS I HAVE SAID (about million times) THE THING IS OLD

They have nothing to do with my current feeling about nighty being scummy because he is so silent.

[Deliriyum]

I actually never did a /ranked/ list based on townishness.

Feels necessary.

Townish

Strawman

Kay

Shinori

Iris

Nightmare

Sho

Rein

Rapier

Bizz

Eclipse

JB

Blitz

13th

Scummy

[eclipse]

That WAS your stance, and the logic was horrible. You don't want me to take that into account while scumhunting? Too bad. Everything in the past is fair game. If you want to survive, you'd best start using non-screwy logic, because it's not helping your case.

Besides, you are ignoring everyone else. I don't like this.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

That WAS your stance, and the logic was horrible. You don't want me to take that into account while scumhunting? Too bad. Everything in the past is fair game. If you want to survive, you'd best start using non-screwy logic, because it's not helping your case.

Besides, you are ignoring everyone else. I don't like this.

oh for the love of god think about timeline

back when I made that wifom of theory there was really no info what so ever and i discarded it the second i got info (13th's claim). Everything at that point was completely random. The only reason the theory is even talked at this point is because rapier keeps bringing it up. If im scummy for this theory then everyone and their mother is scummy too.

Notice that my current point is

Nighty is inactive and we should think about it. I do pay attention to others but they aren't as scummy to me. (well there is shinori for same reasons as nighty)

What am I suppose to do? dig a new theory out of my hat? Hate to tell you but there is nothing to base on in scumdar honey

[13th]

I actually never did a /ranked/ list based on townishness.

Feels necessary.

Townish

Strawman

Kay

Shinori

Iris

Nightmare

Sho

Rein

Rapier

Bizz

Eclipse

JB

Blitz

13th

Scummy

I know why you think I'm scummy.

I think I kknow why you think Blitz is scummy.

Now explain JB and Eclipse scumminess, please.

And you SERIOUSLY are taking this bullcrap logic from Sho as towntells?

-10 town points to Core.

##Unvote Nightmare, ##Vote Sho for Sho's general scumminess. Again.

[a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes]

general scummyness? what fucking general scummyness? theory i discarded ages ago and has been brought back up gazillion time so I answer accordingly? You make no sense

[13th]

oh for the love of god think about timeline

back when I made that wifom of theory there was really no info what so ever and i discarded it the second i got info (13th's claim). Everything at that point was completely random. The only reason the theory is even talked at this point is because rapier keeps bringing it up. If im scummy for this theory then everyone and their mother is scummy too.

Notice that my current point is

Nighty is inactive and we should think about it. I do pay attention to others but they aren't as scummy to me. (well there is shinori for same reasons as nighty)

What am I suppose to do? dig a new theory out of my hat? Hate to tell you but there is nothing to base on in scumdar honey

Except that, like eclipse said, everything in the past is fair game.

Despite having discarded something for a new theory, we can still use it against you.

I WOULD KNOW. I made that fool claim when I was hysterical. Then I went, enjoyed myself away from this for a few hours, slept, and then started making marginal amounts more sense. Not to mention going back to Persuader claim.

But you can, have, and will use the fool claim against me for the rest of the game.

And while you may pay attention to others and they don't come across as scummy, there's Core and Rapier, who are both in the middle of the scummy/towny area, and JB and Rein, who, while I know they're both asleep or something, haven't done as much contribution to the game as me, you, eclipse, or Iris. So its not just Nightmare and Shinori who are currently doing a lot of not much.

And as a final thing to note, has anyone else noticed that Rapier and Strawman have both gone rather silent for the past while? While they may also be asleep or something, they're two of the most logical players we have to use here. While Rapier may have some flawed logic, he has some sound logic also, unlike you

The vote stays.