eclipse Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Yay, everyone's alive! Night phases on SF end whenever all actions are in. I have no objections to the way this phase started except that I can't eat the cake you jerk! Now, on to more important things! First, if there is a neutral, then the odds of it being SK are extremely low. Preventing one death is good; preventing two is really, really low. I think Kaoz crunched some numbers a bit earlier. I won't completely discount the odds of a cult, but unless I see proof otherwise, I'm not gonna worry overly much about it. What is wrong with getting very much better so quickly. I merely had to figure out where I was going wrong, and correct it. The problem with this is you got better than anything I've seen in the past. The last two games I remember you from you were random as hell (FE4) and got Hooker and Safeguard mixed up (Pokemon TCG, which was OC). Sho, Rapier, and 13th, you three continue talking. You're my biggest lynch candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Really Sho, I'm tired of your bad reasons. If you take a look at Clipsey's summary (although you won't need it, if you paid attention to the game rather than pay attention to me and my claim), 13th's logic changed accordingly to the game. He didn't just change his opinion magically: As we discussed further and further, he came to agree with me, and then agree with others ideas that were presented during the Day/Night. He's more like a newbie without a concrete opinion about the facts rather than someone who's taking orders. Also, I'm tired of your "trying to make us accept shit and put it through out throat" behavior. You make no sense at all, and never made infact. ##Vote: Sho I was thinking about lynching 13th too, but then something came into my mind, something that makes me believe that he might not be a Mafia, something that justifies his Fool claim. But I can't say it now, as it'll reveal my strategy and if I'm right it'll be bad for the Town. A) Even the biggest fool would realize not to hide the tracks of taking over 13th's playing Rapier. Have fun being fooled. B) So we are letting 13th's bad logic slip but not mine? Cool story bro. C) Now that I think of it, who was it, pressing lynch other than 13th whole D1 like a madman? Hint, his username starts with R. D) magical reasons why 13th can't be scum no less! cool story bro cool story My bet is on Rapier and 13th covering for eachother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 A) Even the biggest fool would realize not to hide the tracks of taking over 13th's playing Rapier. Have fun being fooled. B) So we are letting 13th's bad logic slip but not mine? Cool story bro. C) Now that I think of it, who was it, pressing lynch other than 13th whole D1 like a madman? Hint, his username starts with R. D) magical reasons why 13th can't be scum no less! cool story bro cool story My bet is on Rapier and 13th covering for eachother A) Lol what B) I didn't say I was going to let it happen. As I said before, I've got something in mind, but I might as well reveal now. What if 13th is Town and claimed Fool so we wouldn't lose a valuable role? After he saw just how Darros failed, I think he'd do something like that to stay alive/avoid a mislynch. C) So everyone who doesn't agree with lynching 13th is his friend (Mafia in that case), I see. D) These reasons also concerned you, Nightmare, Kay and maybe Clipsey. But you haven't paid attention to that apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 B) I didn't say I was going to let it happen. As I said before, I've got something in mind, but I might as well reveal now. What if 13th is Town and claimed Fool so we wouldn't lose a valuable role? After he saw just how Darros failed, I think he'd do something like that to stay alive/avoid a mislynch. For someone who claims to like my summaries, you don't really seem to remember them. 13th claimed persuader, then fool, then persuader again. He already explained his logic about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 A) Lol what B) I didn't say I was going to let it happen. As I said before, I've got something in mind, but I might as well reveal now. What if 13th is Town and claimed Fool so we wouldn't lose a valuable role? After he saw just how Darros failed, I think he'd do something like that to stay alive/avoid a mislynch. C) So everyone who doesn't agree with lynching 13th is his friend (Mafia in that case), I see. A) remove the "not" -.- B) ... THATS YOUR GREAT MAGICAL SECRET!? Hate to burst your bubble but scum doing that is way more likely C) there is difference in disagreeing and driving a lynch with absolutely horrid sho is persuator logic kiddo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 For someone who claims to like my summaries, you don't really seem to remember them. 13th claimed persuader, then fool, then persuader again. He already explained his logic about that. Yeah, he claimed Persuader. But is that really the truth? A possibility indeed, just like my theory. A) remove the "not" -.- B) ... THATS YOUR GREAT MAGICAL SECRET!? Hate to burst your bubble but scum doing that is way more likely C) there is difference in disagreeing and driving a lynch with absolutely horrid sho is persuator logic kiddo A) I still don't understand. Are you saying that 13th hopped on my loltheory and is using me? B) How's that so? That makes the person really really scummy into everyone's eyes, but maybe that's the truth. If only we had a damn Cop AND he investigated 13th... Meh. C) The same could be said about you? Also, it was because of you that I did this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 A) remove the "not" -.- B) ... THATS YOUR GREAT MAGICAL SECRET!? Hate to burst your bubble but scum doing that is way more likely C) there is difference in disagreeing and driving a lynch with absolutely horrid sho is persuator logic kiddo A: I don't honestly get what he's saying here, but I do get what he's getting at. Assuming I'm town, I was trying to avoid a mislynch by fakeclaiming something that would win on lynch. If I knew what I were doing then, that would actually make some sort of sense. Except Sho is right here. It makes more sense when Mafia does it to save their own skin. B: Actually, that logic, before I claimed, made sense. And assuming Rapier doesn't agree with my claim of persuader, he still can think that you are mafia peersuader. HOWEVER... The thing is, besides the fact it feels like Rapier is both trying to start the argument up again and is directly antagonizing Sho without enough solid backing on him, just a lot of (well thought out, but not quite good enough) speculation, I am finding more scumminess in RAPIER than I am in Sho. So, for now, I am opting to go with Eradicate: Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 A: I don't honestly get what he's saying here, but I do get what he's getting at. Assuming I'm town, I was trying to avoid a mislynch by fakeclaiming something that would win on lynch. If I knew what I were doing then, that would actually make some sort of sense. Except Sho is right here. It makes more sense when Mafia does it to save their own skin. B: Actually, that logic, before I claimed, made sense. And assuming Rapier doesn't agree with my claim of persuader, he still can think that you are mafia peersuader. HOWEVER... The thing is, besides the fact it feels like Rapier is both trying to start the argument up again and is directly antagonizing Sho without enough solid backing on him, just a lot of (well thought out, but not quite good enough) speculation, I am finding more scumminess in RAPIER than I am in Sho. So, for now, I am opting to go with Eradicate: Rapier Lolwhat 13th. I'm not saying that Sho is the Mafia Persuader. I'm just saying that stuff is getting pretty tough for you, and I think you might be a Doctor in disguise. If that's the case, know that your mask won't last for long and you may be mislynched soon enough. Besides Sho, no one's stupid enough to make the risky move to lynch a Doctor. >_> Well, you said you didn't know what you were doing, right. So what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Lolwhat 13th. I'm not saying that Sho is the Mafia Persuader. I'm just saying that stuff is getting pretty tough for you, and I think you might be a Doctor in disguise. If that's the case, know that your mask won't last for long and you may be mislynched soon enough. Besides Sho, no one's stupid enough to make the risky move to lynch a Doctor. >_> Well, you said you didn't know what you were doing, right. So what? see, now you are just calling me flat out idiot. Not helping your case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 see, now you are just calling me flat out idiot. Not helping your case ... What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 B) I didn't say I was going to let it happen. As I said before, I've got something in mind, but I might as well reveal now. What if 13th is Town and claimed Fool so we wouldn't lose a valuable role? After he saw just how Darros failed, I think he'd do something like that to stay alive/avoid a mislynch. Doctor is a valuable town role. Persuader is not as valuable and can easily be a detriment to the town. Yeah, he claimed Persuader. But is that really the truth? A possibility indeed, just like my theory. I don't think anyone would ever claim persuader to protect themselves or hide their true role that is important to the town. it just doesn't make sense. Persuader is not usually a town role in the first place and claiming it is already suspicious. Also it isn't an important enough role that people won't lynch a persuader claim just to see if he really is town or not. Other than that, good job doctor! Or roleblocker. Or BP? The information from a night kill would have been useful, but only having one town down overall is fortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Lolwhat 13th. I'm not saying that Sho is the Mafia Persuader. I'm just saying that stuff is getting pretty tough for you, and I think you might be a Doctor in disguise. If that's the case, know that your mask won't last for long and you may be mislynched soon enough. Besides Sho, no one's stupid enough to make the risky move to lynch a Doctor. >_> Well, you said you didn't know what you were doing, right. So what? ... What? Mind if I laugh for a sec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This is somewhat painful to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Mind if I laugh for a sec? Ah, sure. Doctor is a valuable town role. Persuader is not as valuable and can easily be a detriment to the town. I don't think anyone would ever claim persuader to protect themselves or hide their true role that is important to the town. it just doesn't make sense. Persuader is not usually a town role in the first place and claiming it is already suspicious. Also it isn't an important enough role that people won't lynch a persuader claim just to see if he really is town or not. Other than that, good job doctor! Or roleblocker. Or BP? The information from a night kill would have been useful, but only having one town down overall is fortunate. Persuader is not valuable to the Mafia either, that's why he knew he'd survive, rather than saying that he's the Cop/Doctor/something-valuable-that-would-get-him-killed. Besides, claiming persuader and explaining his logic to make stuff clear "for now" wouldn't make him a target for the Mafia, and since he justified and roleclaimed -maybe- that would suffice. The problem is, things didn't go down as he planned, and he's been called scum for a long time now. That is, if my case scenario is right. And I want a damn answer before I decide to get past his newbie protector shield. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This is somewhat painful to watch. This is gonna be much more painful to summarize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Lolwhat 13th. I'm not saying that Sho is the Mafia Persuader. I'm just saying that stuff is getting pretty tough for you, and I think you might be a Doctor in disguise. If that's the case, know that your mask won't last for long and you may be mislynched soon enough. Besides Sho, no one's stupid enough to make the risky move to lynch a Doctor. >_> Well, you said you didn't know what you were doing, right. So what? I get what you're saying, and as much as I want to see you as a townie, too much has added up in my head to see it that way. I see more scum in you than in Sho right now. I will wait on it, but I know who the scummiest player are to me, at the moment. You and Sho. That said, you aren't my definite choice for lynch. I intend to see more of what Sho says before opting to do it this way. Give me more logic on why you are worth keeping through the next day, and I can probably find reason to vote for Sho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 This is gonna be much more painful to summarize. This is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I get what you're saying, and as much as I want to see you as a townie, too much has added up in my head to see it that way. I see more scum in you than in Sho right now. I will wait on it, but I know who the scummiest player are to me, at the moment. You and Sho. That said, you aren't my definite choice for lynch. I intend to see more of what Sho says before opting to do it this way. Give me more logic on why you are worth keeping through the next day, and I can probably find reason to vote for Sho. Give me your logic on why you think I'm antagonizing Sho and how am I using only speculation agaisnt him. The only speculation I made was about you, not Sho. Also, I dare you to prove you're really the Town Persuader. If you think you can prove that, then see if you can send your action when the host is online, tell us beforehand who you're going to persuade, and then send your action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Also, votals: ___________________________________ Voted person - Person who voted him (in order) [1] Rapier: 13th. [1] 13th: Sho [2] Sho: Nightmare, Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Also, I dare you to prove you're really the Town Persuader. If you think you can prove that, then see if you can send your action when the host is online, tell us beforehand who you're going to persuade, and then send your action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 All right. Since the ones accused scum are me, Rapier, and Sho... I will do this for you. I will lock a vote after Nags or Proto gets on again. And also, I am merely remembering things wrong this time. I misread something and thought it was speculation against Sho, not against me. I apologize. ##/Unvote: Rapier, ##Feed To the Taboo: Sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 how very cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 ... sigh. I don't know whether or not I want a sub. I'm not being helpful at all, and uh... other things. You know how I kinda wish you guys didn't lynch Blitz? I still don't see why you lynched him, and I'm going to fucking vehemently defend 13th to the bitter ends of my life (watch him be mafia--I'm actually getting my doubts now). Second-guessing myself just makes it all the more worthwhile to not listen to me and whatever you want to do, I suppose. I keep second-guessing myself this game and it's kind of scaring me. I'm going to start doing vote analysis or something (by the way, we really need to get more people voting) Yeah, another thing, calling ____ role an idiot or 'retarded' really doesn't help anything, especially since none of us know the full story. So shut the fuck up, etc. (I'm speaking from experience--how do you think the vig, should they exist, feels to be called unnecessary names? Especially since you were 'so sure' about Blitz and were wrong?) You know painting big targets on people during the day for the 'vig' to shoot (if we have one) isn't necessarily a good idea imo, especially since it's also incredibly possible that mafia has an investigation role, and if they find out the vig they're just gonna roleblock him whenever people suggest shit OR they have a doctor. It's also scummy, in a way, since mafia that the town trusts as being town can easily manipulate the vig into shooting another town. I guess this brings more possibility to 13th being mafia, but I'm rambling on at this point. I don't even know what I'm talking about. I would still like a Rapier or Core lynch. I'm still not so sure about Sho, though. Where's Strawman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 oh, forgot my vote. Yaaaay, hypocrisy ##Vote: Rapier I'll be back later; I have to buy my mom a birthday present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 If its not obvuous Im waiting 13th to proof his claim before getting on lets pester Rapier train :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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