Strawman Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'm here. Just trying to figure things out. Also theres a distinct lack of anything new going on today. Just a continuation of yesterday's silly argument. I'm not really liking a Sho lynch actually and I don't think I will be supporting it unless something happens to drastically change my opinion. It seems to me people are just voting him out of his frustration and their frustration even if they try to back up their votes with real reasoning. I also think too much focus is being put on Sho, 13th, and Rapier in general. I wouldn't be completely surprised if focusing on them so much is throwing our scum hunting way off. We're getting very little info from their arguing and arguing with them imo. Now time to be a hypocrite and say that I'm leaning towards Rapier at the moment. He is throwing out baseless and ridiculous theories that have done nothing but distract the discussion throughout all of day 1, night, and still today. I just can't tell if that is how he is or if he is trying to really throw us off and keep us from having a decent discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but I hated the logic involved in the blitz bandwagon. The main reason was that he said something very illogical, confusing, and generally made no sense. While I'll concede that he was near the top of my suspects list, the reason that he was lynched was quite poor. In other news, still generally suspicious of 13th and generally have a neutral opinion of Sho, contrary to popular opinion. Rapier seems like a decent lynch target as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 GAH... will you people stop making my head hurt... Now more possibilities with these people are muddling my ideas. I have to let these ideas sit for a bit so I can sort them, so ##Unvote: Sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaoz Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but I hated the logic involved in the blitz bandwagon. Hmm did you argue against the lynch? I don't recall. That being said, I felt like the lynch was the result of you guys wasting a lot of D1 with things that could have been resolved much faster in combination with Blitz not saying anything anymore after people started voting for him iirc... As for today's lynch, I'm kinda interested in what Nightmare's up to since he seems to be relatively sure of himself... though of course there are definitly others to consider as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 OK, as proof of my Persuader abilities (I waited until Proto got on, and he's in IP.), I will lock Rapier's vote... To me. To 13th. Reason: What idiot would lock someone's vote to themselves? You want the persuader to lock the second-scummiest to the scummiest, and to some, I'm scummiest and Rapier is second. So as evidence, I will lock Rapier's vote to me. Because he LOVES me soo much. But yes. I will do it. I'm showing how much I am willing to do to show my role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivalé Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Huh. Okay. There's something I found iffy with that, but I can't remember it now. I'll mention it later. And yeah, Core, I don't quite remember you going against the Blitz wagon at all. /: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Like I said, I was somewhat suspicious of him. If I hadn't been suspicious then I certainly would've said something. I figured either Sho or Blitz would be lynched: I wasn't suspicious of Sho, couldn't find a viable reason to vote Blitz(tbh my suspicion was based a lot on gut feeling), not enough time to realistically propose a new target, so I opted to not vote. Much apologies for being so reticent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriemhild Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 blah blah blah insert Kamen Rider flavor text here <MIND VENT> Domu stabs 13th with a Rapier. ##Stab: 13th Domu/Rapier's vote will be on 13th for the rest of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 As I said, now that 13th has proofed his role, ##Unvote: 13th and pestering time because... I really have said plenty about this already... ##Vote: Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I don't remember much of anyone really going against it too much. And as dumb as I feel for voting for him, I get the feeling the mafia were probably just standing by letting it happen, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I thought about it some more, I think the most attractive thing about lynching 13th is that we don't out any town roles. Also, if you guys haven't noticed, I think aloud quite often resulting in short choppy posts and sometimes a lack of continuity as my perceptions change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I thought about it some more, I think the most attractive thing about lynching 13th is that we don't out any town roles. Also, if you guys haven't noticed, I think aloud quite often resulting in short choppy posts and sometimes a lack of continuity as my perceptions change. What do you mean by "don't out any town roles?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 All right. Since the ones accused scum are me, Rapier, and Sho... I will do this for you. I will lock a vote after Nags or Proto gets on again. And also, I am merely remembering things wrong this time. I misread something and thought it was speculation against Sho, not against me. I apologize. ##/Unvote: Rapier, ##Feed To the Taboo: Sho Do it, but if you do something wrong that doesn't go into the order, I'll vote you. My patience's over and your indecision (does that word exist?) has been bothering me for a while. I'd have voted on you instead of Sho, was it not for my crazy theory/idea. I'm here. Just trying to figure things out. Also theres a distinct lack of anything new going on today. Just a continuation of yesterday's silly argument. I'm not really liking a Sho lynch actually and I don't think I will be supporting it unless something happens to drastically change my opinion. It seems to me people are just voting him out of his frustration and their frustration even if they try to back up their votes with real reasoning. I also think too much focus is being put on Sho, 13th, and Rapier in general. I wouldn't be completely surprised if focusing on them so much is throwing our scum hunting way off. We're getting very little info from their arguing and arguing with them imo. Now time to be a hypocrite and say that I'm leaning towards Rapier at the moment. He is throwing out baseless and ridiculous theories that have done nothing but distract the discussion throughout all of day 1, night, and still today. I just can't tell if that is how he is or if he is trying to really throw us off and keep us from having a decent discussion. Seriously dude, if you think I'm wasting your time with shit, then come up with something good yourselves. Don't go telling me that what I'm doing is stupid because I don't see it as stupid, rather, it's my way of 'helping'. I'm sorry for not being a good player like... erm, Kaoz, Kay or Clipsey. I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but I hated the logic involved in the blitz bandwagon. The main reason was that he said something very illogical, confusing, and generally made no sense. While I'll concede that he was near the top of my suspects list, the reason that he was lynched was quite poor. In other news, still generally suspicious of 13th and generally have a neutral opinion of Sho, contrary to popular opinion. Rapier seems like a decent lynch target as well. His post explains what I think of the Blitz lolwagon, even if I explained it before: Only sheeps, people who didn't have anyone better to vote, and people who wanted some info from him attempted the lynch. It was terrible, but is there much to say regarding the ones who lynched him? No. We don't have much info to work on. blah blah blah insert Kamen Rider flavor text here <MIND VENT> Domu stabs 13th with a Rapier. Domu/Rapier's vote will be on 13th for the rest of the day So he -is- the Persuader after all... Ha, nice job. I'd rather see if he has a good role and clear him out,then let him possibly die with a good role hidden into his sleeve. But I didn't mean to sacrifice him with my rapier... Now, I just wanted to ask the pro-towns to not make the same mistake they made with Blitz again. Where are your motives that point me as scummy? None. You just say that my theory is stupid and what I'm doing is stupid so, yeah, vote him because he might be doing this intentionally. lol at me raging like a sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 What do you mean by "don't out any town roles?" The usual proceedings in a lynch seem to be as follows- 1- Votes build up 2- When it looks like people have made up their minds/there is little time left, the person with the most votes claims 3- The person claiming may or may not have an important role, but if its believable at all, people will probably unvote if they are around 4- With little time left, the town scrambles to find a new target, sometimes resulting in a hasty, poorly supported decision 5- The original target's role has now been outed It's debatable as to whether its actually a big deal that someones role is outed. Usually its unavoidable, but in this case it is avoidable if we lynch 13th. Although I'll admit this sort of tendency is common in me and my OCD-esque desire to conserve unnecessary resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.f.k.a. Howard Hughes Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Now, I just wanted to ask the pro-towns to not make the same mistake they made with Blitz again. Where are your motives that point me as scummy? None. You just say that my theory is stupid and what I'm doing is stupid so, yeah, vote him because he might be doing this intentionally. lol at me raging like a sho I know that if I answer I should do it seriously and I might later but I still have to pop in and say OMG! WHAT A HYPOCRITE! (he even essentially admits it so I am just stating a fact not insulting, not that I wouldn't insult him if it weren't for my bet) Then again Im voting him too so it might be contagious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Also, votals: ___________________________________ Voted person - Person who voted him (in order) - The ones who kept their vote [2] Rapier: 13th, Bizz, Sho - [bizz, Sho] [1] 13th: Sho, Rapier (forced) - [Rapier (forced)] [1] Sho: Nightmare, Rapier - [Nightmare] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 ##Vote: Sho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 ##Vote: Sho *stabs with another Rapier* Die monster, you don't belong in this place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 ##Vote: Rapier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The usual proceedings in a lynch seem to be as follows- 1- Votes build up 2- When it looks like people have made up their minds/there is little time left, the person with the most votes claims 3- The person claiming may or may not have an important role, but if its believable at all, people will probably unvote if they are around 4- With little time left, the town scrambles to find a new target, sometimes resulting in a hasty, poorly supported decision 5- The original target's role has now been outed It's debatable as to whether its actually a big deal that someones role is outed. Usually its unavoidable, but in this case it is avoidable if we lynch 13th. Although I'll admit this sort of tendency is common in me and my OCD-esque desire to conserve unnecessary resources. I see where you're going with this. We know very very few things. -Sho, at least to most of us, seems pretty scummy -Strawman and Eclipse seem the cleanest. -I have at least attempted to prove my claim, wasting another persuasion on Rapier->Me. But I do want to see some more people talk before we make any decisions. If we don't have a somewhat unified opinion on something, we have no way to go. This way, everything seems more... simple. So I will tell you, in order, of the people I want to see talk 1: Rein: Again, I want to see some more talk out of him. I know I have been harassing him and harassing him this entire time, but Rein is who I want to see talk. 2: JB: It feels like he is trying to be quiet and hidden from us. But he needs to speak before someone finds his excessive silence as scummy. (I know, Timezones.) 3: Nightmare: Again, we all harass him, but it still feels he doesn't say much aside from responding and early on. I saw a handful of his posts here, though. 4: Kay: She seems quietest to me, but she has provided some decent help. So yeah. Witholding votes until I hear more opinion from the others. Cross-examination might be what we need to get this game won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 ##Vote: Sho ##Vote: Rapier Shut up you two. You aren't part of this game. This is amazing. We're getting so many votes. Now, because he's been excessivly quiet... Vote Life Admiral I don't care what the rules say, he MUST be a hidden player. (jk, before someone thinks I'm serious.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawman Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 The usual proceedings in a lynch seem to be as follows- 1- Votes build up 2- When it looks like people have made up their minds/there is little time left, the person with the most votes claims 3- The person claiming may or may not have an important role, but if its believable at all, people will probably unvote if they are around 4- With little time left, the town scrambles to find a new target, sometimes resulting in a hasty, poorly supported decision 5- The original target's role has now been outed It's debatable as to whether its actually a big deal that someones role is outed. Usually its unavoidable, but in this case it is avoidable if we lynch 13th. Although I'll admit this sort of tendency is common in me and my OCD-esque desire to conserve unnecessary resources. Oh ok. For some reason I thought you meant to try and avoid outing someone's role being revealed after potentially mislynching them. Which was confusing me. In my eyes, however, 13th is looking more town. Persuading someone to vote for himself when he was really just asked to prove he was the persuader is an interesting action to be sure. I don't think a member of the mafia would put themselves in the situation where at least one vote is forced on them unless they knew they wouldn't be lynched. So it seems like quite risk for him if he was mafia. To me lynching 13th is almost like purposefully mislynching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I know that if I answer I should do it seriously and I might later but I still have to pop in and say OMG! WHAT A HYPOCRITE! (he even essentially admits it so I am just stating a fact not insulting, not that I wouldn't insult him if it weren't for my bet) Then again Im voting him too so it might be contagious It's not hipocrisy. I had a reason agaisnt you, and you insisted on your bad logic a lot even after you voted on other people. You only accepted that later. Oh ok. For some reason I thought you meant to try and avoid outing someone's role being revealed after potentially mislynching them. Which was confusing me. In my eyes, however, 13th is looking more town. Persuading someone to vote for himself when he was really just asked to prove he was the persuader is an interesting action to be sure. I don't think a member of the mafia would put themselves in the situation where at least one vote is forced on them unless they knew they wouldn't be lynched. So it seems like quite risk for him if he was mafia. To me lynching 13th is almost like purposefully mislynching. Yeah. And let's not forget that 13th may still seem scummy to some eyes, which is why I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prims Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I'm a masochist. Put me on the replacements list even though I said I wouldn't join this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deliriyum Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Oh ok. For some reason I thought you meant to try and avoid outing someone's role being revealed after potentially mislynching them. Which was confusing me. In my eyes, however, 13th is looking more town. Persuading someone to vote for himself when he was really just asked to prove he was the persuader is an interesting action to be sure. I don't think a member of the mafia would put themselves in the situation where at least one vote is forced on them unless they knew they wouldn't be lynched. So it seems like quite risk for him if he was mafia. To me lynching 13th is almost like purposefully mislynching. He may be making sense now, but we'll always wonder why he panicked at the slightest pressure at the beginning. Every day he'll probably be a lynch candidate, however, today we have less info than we will probably have the next day, so if nothing else today, I think he is a good fallback target. Regarding him pressuring somebody onto himself, I personally think its null. He's been seemingly trying hard to generate some trust, so it wouldn't be abnormal for him to do that if he were mafia, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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