Mr. Francis York Morgan

Goddamnit. Finally. Took them long enough. I'm just glad that they're making a new fire emblem game. It's been too bloody long

Thank you. Just downloaded this game w/ patch yesterday. Playing this game on lunatic without the rainbow potion/reclass limits removed would have been quite painful. I don't think I'll be doing that till my second run though. Prob gonna play a female for first run through since knight is best for lunatic from what I remember. Most likely I'll pick a mage. I just wish you could play one of the older FE4 class types that could wield swords alongside magic/staves on a horse... actually make that on a wyvern. I'd totally play a mage wyvern. That would be like the ultimate class. Was also gonna ask which one was classic/casual. Thanks as well. Side question: Where can I find menu translations?

Replace Harken with Rebecca and focus on how Eliwood's early game is utter poo poo and that Rebecca sees more combat than he does since she at least fails at 2 range. Downplay Eliwood's rapier utility on chapter 15/16 because of his lack of durability/power/move when facing the enemy cav spam. You'd much rather use Hector, Marcus, and Oswin for that anyway. Follow it up with how his low level affects his mid and late game negatively. Watch Eliwood drop like a rock while sipping martini's on the beach. Life is good. Edit: If you wanna be a real rear end in a top hat bring up how Rebecca has a 20% higher speed growth at 60% and only loses to Eliwood by 1 point in base speed. Also bring up how similar they are in terms of bases/growths.

6'3" So I guess that means with high heels York (Celes) in drag is now the tallest member of the party at 6'7"

That's why I said probably. There always will be strategies like that. It just seems the more efficient strategy in general is when you get a draco shield for free on a chapter and you got some extra stuff to sell you might as well trade it in for a seraph robe.

We should probably also sell spirit dusts, draco shields, and talismans. I feel the only stat boosters we should be buying/keeping from an efficiency perspective are energy drinks, seraph robes, and speedwings. And energy drinks might be better off sold for forges/arena/whatever. The spirit dusts have the problem that sages can only hit 25 speed max so we probably shouldn't bother using them. I know you might want them for etzel after reading the argument last page so it's the tier players call. If I sell 2 dracoshields or talismans and buy a seraph robe with the money I'm actually better off than if I had used them since I get both a +3 larger boost and the boost applies not just to enemies who attack defense but enemies who attack res as well. Same cost better results.

Can you buy warpstaves in a shop on insanity at least? Cause that is bullshit if they removed them completely.

^Pretty much everything Ninji just said.

Why the heck is cav/peg My Unit not in top tier? And what's Fina doing above Catria? Fina is going to have a hard time keeping up with the top tiers on this mode due to lack of move/flight. Also weaker enemies means the tier player can be far more aggressive with his use of the top/high tiers. This should limit her utility. She will probably end up just using dance on Marth more often than not.

Yea I knew how strong the enemies were. I knew they had ridiculous speed stats and near cap stats along with +8 forges we get to fight. If your whole point was that saving the player a master seal isn't worth the money saved then sure I agree with you. I didn't know we would be getting that many. I was gonna argue with you on Minerva's position to be honest. Just a few moments ago though I went and checked the growth rates on the few guys directly below her in conjuncture with the bases so now I'm not so sure. A few of them could probably rise up and surpass her as Heroes/Swordmaster. Specifically Cain, Frey, Roger, Nabarl. Repost the original post before you edited it if you can. You made some good points.

I'm probably the most hardcore guy on the site if my love of Deadly Premonition and budget titles is any indication, yet I am looking forward to creating my own my unit. Guess that means I'm a closet casual! I don't really put any value on the terms hardcore or casual. Nerds just use them satisfy there feelings of rage/inadequacy whenever there games are threatened by anything in particular.

That's why she is below Paola. No one is saying she is better than Paola. She isn't even close to paola and she never will be. But the deal is, Paola/Katua/My Unit cannot solo whole chapters alone. They need support and Minerva can obviously provide it in many different ways thanks to her good weapon ranks all around on top of decent bases/supports.

Reclass. She has enough speed/durability to survive. Almost every Edit: GOOD character is getting 2 rounded so she is pulling even in durability. She has 21 base AS as a swordmaster and 34 hp/12 defense. Now as a swordmaster she has instant access to the wyrmslayer and the lady sword so lack of silvers doesn't hurt her to badly. Done.

Just gotta point this out. Hitting your caps by 20/20 means absolute shit on tier lists (except for radiant dawn). Hitting caps in general means shit. Growths don't mean anything either if you don't got the bases/weapon ranks/utility to get a good start. The tier player nine times out of ten is gonna prefer a unit with high bases but lower growths to a unit with no bases and higher growths unless that character joins early enough that it isn't a problem raising them. Minerva has good bases at join time and her growths are actually pretty decent. Great weapon ranks to boot. She supports two of the best units in the game. And she doesn't waste a seal to promote. Just because someone starts promoted doesn't mean they suck. Here check this link out below Mj. Should help you understand some of the jargon we are using here and help ya understand what we consider efficient strategy. http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=15777 - Tier Debating 101. Thanks dondon.

What are Minerva's issues/reasons for mid tier? She just looks like she could potentially be higher on the tier list than where she is. Stat boosters could knock her up a bit further when we get into that discussion sometime down the road. Specifically a speedwing.

I pick Celes on account of her being my favorite character. I also happen to be a guy picking a girl. So go nuts with the jokes. Just call her York, that's what everyone calls me.

One question. Does that mean both stat boosters and stat potions or just boosters? Either way that is actually pretty awesome.

Must have been berzerkers then that I remember seeing with 48-50 ATK. 160 hit is pretty much unavoidable. Even Katua with max speed/max luck as a swordmaster and full supports up to B/A level can only hit 105 avoid.

If a character can hit base 14 speed and base 23 combined defense/hp that character can claim 2 rounding from any non magic enemy on lunatic outside of medeus by endgame as a swordmaster. That gives you 51 total hp/defense and 27 speed. From what I've seen even the dragons only hit about 48-50 atk and since they strike defense (aside from the mage dragons)... you can rely on 23 hp/defense as a swordmaster. I've yet to see any normal enemy break 50 in any screenshot. I think we are gonna appreciate hp more than defense since a character with high defense but low hp will not be able to survive a magic attack where as the high hp character will survive both the silver lance and the thoron tome. If I'm not mistakened though mages only tend to hit about 45 ATK max. Just thought you guys might find this interesting.

Well. There's a reason you don't use hypercam. It's called retsupurae.

Well. Good. Don't use the camcorder. Really. Camcorder LP's are shit. Here let me give you a good example of a well done LP: http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Battletoads/ That is Battletoads by Diabetus. Personally one of my favorite LP's. His commentary is quite good and his skills while playing the game are top notch.

How the hell is this an lp? Have you ever even seen an LP before?! There is nothing informative, amusing, or even remotely interesting about this. It's just a goddamn collection of characters leveling up. You should have called this topic Darros's level up bonanza. Let me give you the definition of what an LP is also. It's basically the act of providing commentary on any given video game as to entertain the audience. Consider it similar to audio commentary in a movie where a bunch of people behind the making of said movie all provide various information and make jokes about the movie in question as they watch it. The difference between that and an lp is that the LPer had no hand in making the game and he also has to play the game at the same time as providing commentary. Here this is the LP archive: http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/ There are generally two types of LPS on this site. The screenshot LP and the video LP. Those are pretty much the only formats suitable for commentary. Screenshot LP's have written commentary under each screenshot. Usually these tend to be more informative in nature and geared towards rpgs. Video LP's are either recorded live while playing the game or done afterwards. You can have multiple people provide guest commentary on a video lp by having them all sync up and record their own dialogue as they all comment together on one video while communicating via certain chat programs like skype for example. If you don't have recording equipment beyond a camcorder/unregistered hypercam 2 then I would suggest just taking screen shots of the game while emulating and playing then afterwards coming up with funny and informative captions under the screens. Now you don't have to take screens of each units move for each turn. Just give a turn summary and post screens of anything you find interesting. Like I would suggest whenever you recruit a character you list anything interesting about them stat wise/personality wise or anything like supports. That would be a way to be informative to the person viewing your lp.

I think you guys are whining about stupid shit honestly. The general class set is fine. Sure it's not the class for speedrunning/wifi but that's not what it was ever intended to be good at. It was designed to hold the goddamn line and provide chip damage. Which it does quite effectively.