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I forgot Nah already had Sage. Thanks for the correction.
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Literally everyone I've spoken to would prefer to have Robin to Chrom, and although I don't know the big name smashers, I know a couple competitive smashers. Also, the problem isn't really that "another blue haired swordsman" will be in, but the fact that Chrom literally is Marth trying to Ike, and we don't need a midpoint, we want varied playstyles, which seems to be a theme this time around as there are custom movesets. If you ask me they probably wanted to put Chrom in initially until they realized the posibilities Robin could provide us with. And on top of this, we could use another short to mid-range character, Robin could be what megaman should have been.
also, Walhart was both Chrom's and Robin's battle, it was showing that Robin's tactics could outdo the opposing tactician as well as Walhart's brute strength, Chrom deffinitely was not the main character over Robin there. Robin and Chrom were consistently important to one another so arguing over who was a main character when is pointless.
at the begining? Robin was the co-lead with Chrom, wanting to help his "savior" in whatever way he can, and Chrom was trying to protect his country from a new threat with the help of his new tactician
Walhart? I already said why it was Robin's battle as well.
Grima? Robin was again co-lead with Chrom, as Robin finds out that he is the Fell Dragon and then worries about hurting Chrom, and Chrom restores the Falchion's light as well as fights side by side with Robin in the final moments.
It's not unheard of to have 2 protagonists, which was clearly the case in this game.
Also, a side note, my friends who have never played Fire Emblem, recognize Lucina, but not Chrom, whoever argued that he is the most recognizable character holds no water.
Everyone I've spoken to wants Chrom. At the very least, they know if anyone's making it in it will be Chrom and not Robin. No matter how much I want Hector in there it doesn't change the fact that Chrom's getting in. It doesn't matter how obvious the decision is. As far as series are concerned, they haven't been aiming for surprises. Surprises have come with the standalone newcomers. They went with obvious choices for the most part such as Palutena and Rosalina when it came to series that already have reps.
Robin did not have any development whatsoever in the Valm Arc. Robin had zero relevance. Forgive my choice of words.... but you are straight pulling that out of your posterior.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/The_Sword_or_the_Knee/Script
You know what that chapter is? That's the chapter where you confront Walhart. ROBIN DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ANY LINES. No confrontation speech with Walhart. Nothing. Up until the terrible third arc Robin had absolutely no bearing on the plot. He/She was simply Chrom's tactician. Is Mark the protagonist in FE7? No. Is Kris the Protagonist of FE12? No.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/The_Conqueror/Script
Just for kicks, here's the script for the chapter before that. Robin's only line is "Hmm...". Yeah, this arc is totally 50/50.
Just because the game likes to kiss Robin's ass, it doesn't make Robin the main character.
The beginning of the game was straight out og FE7, except Robin can actually fight. Either way, the main character goes around introducing you to everybody. Once again, is Mark the protagonist in Lyn Mode? Her fight against Lungdren was hers alone, and the tactician was simply along for the ride. It is the exact same case for Robin. Chrom commands the plot of FE13 up until the third arc but even then the spotlight is split between him and Robin.
I've already shown 3 separate polls dealing with popularity.
I've got the Gematsu leak on my side too.
The reason Lucina is more "recognizable" is because she was the one disguised as Marth, AKA the big publicity stunt to garner attention for the game. Discussing Awakening with the entirety of my anime club (there are about 30-40 of us in there), almost everyone wanted Chrom in Smash. Tumblr? They don't care which Awakening character is in there. Youtube comments refer to Chrom more than Robin. It's literally only on SF that I see people who are actively against Chrom's inclusion. My response is deal with it. He's the face of Awakening.
As far as gameplay is concerned, Chrom literally has his own sword style. Honestly the complaints about Chrom being too similar to Marth are so dumb. Marth's moveset was built entirely from scratch with various sprite animations. Chrom has his own set of animations. Just because they both use Falchion doesn't mean they will both have the same moves. Chrom even has Lance animations over Ike and Marth that they could use. Aether? Anyone with eyes and basic cognitive ability could see that Chrom's and Ike's are entirely different. As I said, they pick the character first then make the moveset later.
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I... it's kinda like fucking a baby in a sense. I know that there's time shenanigans and all, but it feels awkward to just go to your best friend and say "I fucked your daughter," or "I'm gonna marry your daughter/son."
It's sort of cringeworthy to me, but if that's how much you love him/her, then go ahead and marry someone who would eventually be born.
IIIIIIIIIIII'm just gonna place this image here
Credits to the artist (aaand get the fuck off my waifu, Chrom!)
Reported for being awesome.
But seriously, the children are grown ass men and women, They are legit fair game. It's not like you slipped a ring on it straight out of the womb. They are all adults.
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I use them Genealogy style. I save at the beginning of each turn. Why? Because ever since Lloyd got a damn 13% crit on Jaffar in Cog I decided the RNG can go eat a dick. I wasn't about to start over fucking COG over some RNG bullshit.
Beginning of each turn is fair enough. Because mistakes are made on a turn by turn basis. If turns 1-4 are successful and I mess up turn 5 why should I waste time repeating 1-4?
On rare occasion I will save if I get a good level up but I don't RNG abuse bad level ups into good ones.
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You got me there. I wish they didn't use Nowi's model for Manakete Morgan though.When MaleMorgan can go Manakete, then we'll talk.
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For me, I think Female Morgan gets a lot of the advantages as a unit. That's just my opinion though.
Male Morgan is better than every Female Morgan except Chrom!Cynthia!Morgan and Lucina!Morgan. Aggressor > Every female skill but Aether > Aggressor. They both get galeforce so Female Morgan doesn't really have a distinct advantage over Male Morgan.
Anyway I love Male Morgan's subtle, humble, and kind personality. I like the fact that he isn't over the top. Female Morgan makes me want to choke a bitch out sometimes.
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I think we should lock this thread now, the amount of pages is just right for this kind of topicIn my current hard run, I matched up my pairings in a way that Nowi is left with either Virion or Henry. I heard both are sub-optimal, but are they still acceptable? The others should be fine.
Virion grants Sage. She can work with him as a father.
happy 69 pages.
and also, I'm trying to figure out which would be better for my team.
so, Severa and Gerome have S-Supports, but I can't decide which class severa should be. gerome is a wyvern lord.
i'm pretty stuck between dark flier and hero. now, I know people say that hero is an awesome class for severa, but i just don't like it.
she's one of my galeforcing units, like 24/7, and i need to get her from place to place as she is my best unit.
but sometimes it becomes a problem with i'm doing DLC maps to get extra items, and severa can't cross the wall she needs to, or grass limits her walk.
dark flier WOULD make her weaker in defense and such, but I give her an iote's shield. what should i do with severa? what skills should i give her?
Hero, the Pair up bonuses are more complimenary. Dark Flier is what you would use if Virion was her father. Lancefaire Wyvern Lord is also a solid choice.
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Happy Birthday Libra! Prettiest man alive.
Skill and Def
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Grandmaster Frederick!Inigo!Morgan and Dread Fighter Ricken!Owain are tied at 367 for my highest rating.
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Lucy - lol
Cynthia - Chrom!Blue
Inigo - Chrom!Blue and Freddy!Brown
Laurent - LQ!Black
Severa - LQ!Black (by a very, VERY large margin).
Noire - Gregor!Red (by a large margin)
Kjelle - Vaike!Blonde, Donny!Purple, and Gaius!Orange are all tied.
Gerome - Avatar!Light Pink (seriously), Stahl!Green (one of the few kids that Stahl's hair looks good on), LQ!Black
Yarne - LQ!Black
Owain - Ricken!Red, Libra!Blonde, and Henry!White are all tied
Male Morgan - Freddy!Brown, Chrom!Blue, Priam!Blue
Female Morgan - Cherche!Red, Olivia!Pink
Brady - Virion!Blue, Gregor!Red, LQ!Black
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The thing that irks me is that most general "optimization" setup that I've heard so many times people are looking for is "the best".
...You really need to be more specific than that.
I would assume they mean "the best" as in general use for skirmishing. Giving Luna and Galeforce out like candy, I guess.
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Ain't nobody got time for that.
Fair enough
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-Chrom isnt more popular than Avatar
-Chrom main character 80% of the game? xDDD Thats Avatar, Chrom loses everything after Gangrel death
-Irrelevant.
Avatar is more original, Avatar is the true main character and he is the most popular as well. Chrom is just a clone, a mix from Marth and Ike (He is like Marth/Eliwood/Roy but wants to be like Ike/Hector/Ephraim, then you can easily see his personality and his fighting style just as a mix of those 2, who are already in the smash).
Anything else? Chrom has the same sword Marth uses and copies Ike´s signature Aether, so how can you not see he is even more clone?
Avatar on the other hand, wields sword and magic (Wider and more original moveset), he is "you" which makes it more original in comparison to Chrom and has a free custom skin as a female.
If you want to get another random guy wielding a sword, get a Swordfighter Mii and put him Chrom´s face, its like they have even already invented a 100% swordman moveset and its not for Chrom. Why would Sakurai bother to make another full new moveset for a character who is less popular, less "main character", and less original than Avatar who has a better an easier moveset to do? Thus unless Sakurai makes Chrom what we see, a mix/clone and he will just be a medium point between Marth and Ike, which would be dishonor in his family and dishonor in his cow.
I totally believe its a 50/50 between Chrom-Avatar to make in smash, the first one being "easier" due just making a mix/clone from Marth and Ike and the second one being the original and harder choice, thats up to Sakurai. He can always make a full brand new moveset for Chrom of course, he can do whatever he wants (Still doubtful, considering there are tons of swordmen in smash and they have just invented a Mii swordfghter with more specials, not like there is much to pick as original sword moves) but the chances for that are really slim in comparison to all the other choices
>Avatar is more popular than Chrom
http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/fe13poll.jpg
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html
wat. In the American poll, Chrom was under Tharja and Walhart, but Robin wasn't even anywhere to be found. There's a reason Chrom got a fanservice DLC and Robin... didn't.
Chrom is the main character for the vast majority of the game.
Gangrel Arc? Chrom
Walhart Arc? Chrom. How in Naga's name can you even say Avatar was the lead in this arc? Who was it that learned the difference between a King and a Conqueror? I can certainly tell you it wasn't Robin.
Robin got the Grima Arc yet it was still Chrom's plot sword that was needed. It was 60:40 Avatar:Chrom
Calling Robin this game's main character is like saying Mark was FE7's protagonist.
Chrom has more publicity
http://serenesforest.net/fe13/img/mhfg_costumes.jpg
Not seeing one of these for Robin. If anything, even Lucina has a better chance at getting in than Robin.
Robin isn't even on the damn box art.
Did I mention Chrom's voiced by Sugita? Oh yeah, he's voiced by Sugita. That's kind of a big deal.
Sakurai doesn't give a damn about moveset potential. Pac-Man should be all the proof you need for that.
This is not remotely true, players hate seeing clones even when they're not actual clones. How the hell do you think they'll react to three characters from the same series that look the same and have similar functions?
Aside from the reasons you mentioned, Chrom would also be a bad choice because he likely won't have much lastability, he'd just be added for being the most recent lord despite the likelihood he's going to be dropped from the series for the most part and he'd end up like Roy in terms of "why did he even get added?" Marth and Ike don't have this problem, and other characters from Awakening also don't have this problem (Avatar, Anna, Tiki), and if Greninja can be added, then a Fire Emblem character who's not the main character can be added to SSB.
No one's complaining about Luigi or Falco. I can guarantee you the only place this complaint about 3 Blue Haired Swordsman is coming from is the FE community. Everyone else is welcoming Chrom with open arms, but ironically the FE community is the only group I see that is against his inclusion for an out of left field reason like "Nooo too many blue haired swordsman!"
Lastability? The face of the highest selling game in the series? The face of the game that saved the series? Their cash cow? You're worried about CHROM's lastability? No. Chrom is here to stay. I am truly, legitimately baffled that you would put Robin over Chrom in terms of longevity. Putting Roy and Chrom in the same category makes no sense to me.
The Greninja argument doesn't really apply here. There is no main Pokemon. The closest thing to that would be Pikachu (who made it in). However, Awakening does have a main character.
"No, no one should want Chrom in."
This really just sounds like personal bias. Are there characters I want in it besides Chrom? Yeah. But I'm keeping it realistic. No one will get the spot over Chrom.
There were a million other Namco characters I wanted in over Pac-Man but it didn't change the fact that I knew Pac-Man was going to make it in.
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Ok thanks, if you don't mind what are the best child pairs?
No offense, but literally any question you may have has already been answered earlier in this thread. Read through the whole thread. It's worth it.
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He's as good as due to the leak, which is why he's on my new list.
1. Shulk
2. Peach
3. Chrom
4. Rosalina
5. Zelda
Marth was on, but apparently he was nerfed hard. I also love Greninja, Palutena, and Villager
Marth is shit now (by that I mean mid tier at best). This new physics engine is so fucking terrible.
True, that leak has been accurate so far, but I wouldn't hold my breath just yet. For all we know, Gematsu might have been right that an Awakening rep is in, but misinformed that it's Chrom. I agree that it'll be either him or Avatar though.
There is zero justifiable reason for Robin to take the spot over Chrom.
Chrom is more popular
Chrom is the main character for 80% of the game
Chrom is voiced by Sugita
Chrom has widespread popularity, is recognizable, and relevance in his plot. He's earned the spot more than any other character in Awakening by a very large margin.
The main reason I've seen why the FE community doesn't want Chrom is because they think it will make their series look bad. They think everyone else will assume the series is all about blue haired bishies wielding plot swords.
Do you have any idea how little everybody else cares? No one is going to judge the series. They will be hyped that another sword character is playable.
There is no "Avatar would be more interesting than Chrom", they'll take Chrom and make him interesting.
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Just reminding you of something similar to this line of thought...
Your sig gif:
How much strategic genius is in the colonel to troll the entire party time after time?
You make a good point. Colonel Jade Curtiss is just too good. Speaking of Abyss, dont'cha think Guy Cecil is somewhere in between Lon'qu and Owain? He totally looks like he could be a recruitable FE Myrmidon doesn't he?
Even though there already is a Myrmidon named Guy and another Myrmidon who is afraid of women.
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Jaffar got crit'd by Lloyd today in CoD. Maybe I should stop being so aggressive...
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Hmmm. At the same time, as far as Inigo goes, I've read that Stahl!Inigo is more-or-less the same as Chrom!Inigo (and imho, I don't think Rightful King is some kind of game-changer).
Chrom!Inigo and Stahl!Inigo are pretty much the same thing. Both give Archer and Cavalier. Chrom just gives RFK with is junk unless you want RFK Lethality streetpass.
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I play aggressive. Send in my strongest units to murder everything.
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What's with this Morgan (M) is derp thing? Morgan's not derp, he's just a cool guy. He's pretty normal compared to the rest of the Gen 2. He's a bit of oblivious, but he's not derp. He handled Lucina's confession like a boss in the Lucina x Morgan support.
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This thread is bullshit, everyone knows Chrom's one true love is Village Maiden.People do what they want, shouldn't that be answer enough? \o/
You mean the same maiden that Inigo is trying to fuck in his Paralogue?Well there are specific reasons people like Chrolivia. They like the family dynamic more, Blue Haired Inigo, Inigo as Lucy's younger bro, FE4 reference. So "people do what they want" isn't answer enough lol.
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It takes strategy to troll everyone like that.
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Well played.
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We forgot Stahl and remembered Kellam.
'Tis a sad day for Serenes Forest.
Anyway, Happy Birthday Kellam!
I forgot what he gave me.
The Pairing Thread
in Fire Emblem: Awakening
Posted · Edited by Ownagepuffs
For Inigo: Replace RFK and Lethality with Astra and Luna. Honestly, Lethality is worthless. I don't see the appeal. If the lead has Brave Weapons and the support has Brave weapons you will get the kill before the enemy can attack. Astra+Luna yields is much more reliable than RFK+Lethality. Unless this is for streetpass.
For Cynthia you don't need Mag +2 because you already have Limit Breaker. Stick Anathema on there or something. You could even use something like Pass from Assassin.
Edit: Damn it Czar you ninja'd me. :(