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Eclipse you ignored almost everything that's been said so far. Besides, just because Bizz has a scummy role that she doesn't plan to use doesn't mean everyone does. Why is she supposed to be happy about something that can neutralize the town's strongest power roles? Case in point: Sho. And calling Bizz out for saying she has a scummy role, when IIRC, both you and Marth did the same, doesn't make much sense to me.

If someone says "There are 15 town members in the game", asking that person if they're Numbers isn't filler. If I suddenly said "Marth is a Kidnapper please lynch him", wouldn't you ask me if I was a Rolecop? Also, I heavily disliked that last post by Snike. Let's sum up what he said about everyone. BBM: some good points but also some bad things, so mixed feelings Shinori: town (for claiming a role that can be faked by most mafia teams) Sho: pseudo-town but coasting and not saying anything, so mixed feelings Helios: apathetic tone but a good point, so mixed feelings Everyone else: post moar plz He took both sides on the bulk of his scumhunting, against me and Helios.

"Bizz might not be voting Marth" is what I meant to say. Lucina, how is making a serious vote instead of a non-serious vote a scummy thing? That last post of your's didn't really say anything, and you didn't back it up with a vote either. If you don't want to vote Marth because he's not here, why not vote me, if you find me suspicious? I'm here and can respond to a vote.

Are you claiming Numbers, Shinori? I'm disappointed that Helios has nothing better to offer than Sho rolespec and what's basically a random vote against Scorri. Helios, what do you think of Marth and the Marth wagon?

FE has had difficulty levels since FE6, so there's a pretty good chance at it.

Sho, mafia could have been given AC as a fakeclaim. Whatever, there's no point to arguing this. Either way, don't coast. Bizz- Claiming Announcer was a mistake; I've said that several times. Whatever. Nor was I engaging in cult spec; I was trying to point out to Sho that he's not cleared. Rocker's post bothers me. Bizz might not be voting but at least she's analyzing what people are saying. Rocker just said "oh shucks we lost the cop" and then left it at that.

I don't think that he's assuming that there's a role thief. It looked more to me that he wasn't discounting the possibility of one, instead of just calling it a role deleter. Sho, I hope that you don't use the excuse of you getting your role downgraded to coast. We don't even know if you're telling the truth. You might have been culted and lost your role, for all we know. Why exactly are you voting Marth?

>_> Well then. I think Snike's case against Marth is a good one, and since Mancer isn't here and isn't likely to respond much to any pressure put on him right now anyways, ##Unvote, ##Vote: Marth. What also struck me as a bit off is that while D1 starts have become the norm lately, Marth has played in many N0 starts before, and he never seemed so eager to start things off then. ~meta but I don't really have anything better at the moment.

I'd probably make a SK immune to a role like that, but eh. Sho, do YOU have anything to say other than to report the loss of your role? Also, wrt Mancer, people posting to say that they won't be able to post in the future is a bit of a pet peeve of mine. If you were able to make that post, you could have at least dropped an RVS vote if nothing else.

Well, actually, it's probably better you not specify your role, so that the mafia won't know not to fake it. I'm sad nobody recognized the announcement. Bizz do you have nothing else to say?

Sun probably won't hit 40, even with Elite, especially since a good bunch of the latter chapters can be Warpskipped. And even if she does, it'll be in a portion of the game where she won't be as useful. I'd go ahead and promote her as soon as you can, as her promo gains are pretty good, if not Narron level.

ALMOST everyone with some type of magical abilities does get a prf of some kind, actually, or something else to set them apart. Lee- magic Jeigan Enteh- Save Staff Plum- Dance + Defence Staff Maruju- Wundergust Mel- Magic Staff Katri- Muse/Neuron Meriah- Starlight/Aura Rain Alicia- Brenthunder Lyria- Sing + Power Staff Rishel- Sunflame Sierra- Warp + Dark Magic Leteena- Silence Staff Rebecca- let's pretend she gets something okay Renee- Warp Staff Tia- Seiken Leda Alfred- barely counts as a unit So I wouldn't say EVERYONE, but it's a good majority of all the magic users of any kind. And if you look at just the unpromoted Mages, it is everyone.

So you were a Tracker and you lost your role?

The announcement was all me. I'll try making the transitions more seamless next time. And the links inside the announcement didn't work; Elie u r the wurst. Bratwurst, even. ##Vote: Mancer Manix, I think that trying extra hard to seem town when you're mafia is something a lot of scum do- it's not something that's unique to my play. I don't see this vote as based off meta, personally. Anyways, I'll say again that even though Mancer said he wanted to start scumhunting N0, he didn't comment on anything in the second half of N0, even though there was a lot less threadspam there, for the most part. He could have made a lot more insightful comments than the ones he did when he posted earlier just saying that Manix's posting style seemed weird or something. He might have been busy, and apparently he's going to be busy for the rest of the weekend, but I see him in the thread right now so I want him to say something.

So a few people requested another one. I personally won't be joining unless I have to to make the numbers work out, because I don't have the time to complete it and I know it'd just end up being another draft on my backlog. Someone suggested banning Warp (and then making Renee free). What would people say about this? Directing this towards the likes of Dio. Drafting: 1. This draft is for 5 players. 2. Runan, Holmes, Enteh, Katri, Shigen, Plum, Lyria, Renee, Sennet, Alfred, and Tia are free for everyone. 3. Drafting will be done in the usual 1234554321 snake draft. Rules: 1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, trade, visit Shops and Armories and dig up items in the desert. 2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, and opening Doors or Chests. 3. Map shopping is allowed. 4. Skirmishes/use of the Tower is disallowed. Skirmishes that are blocking your path and cannot be avoided must be fought and are counted as a stage. The Mandatory Tower levels are also counted in this manner. 5. Narron may only be picked during the second visit to Verje (Holmes Route). 6. The Krisheenu item duplication glitch is NOT allowed. 7. Kreiss and Leteena are drafted as one unit. Penalties: 1. Undrafted units have a 4 turn penalty, per unit per chapter. If you drafted Raquel, Mahter may be used to block and kill the thieves and thieves only in this map. 2. Usage of Muse/Neuron has a penalty of 10 turns per usage. Exceptions: 1. Female units may be used to block Roger in map 4. 2. Usage of Neuron is free in map 8. Xeno and Yuni is also free for this map. 3. Samson and Alicia are free for map 11. 4. Kate is free for map 38/39. 5. Barts is free for map 2. 6. Muse is free for map 36. 7. Krisheenu is free for map 13. Units Left Teams: 1. BBM- Raffin, Narron, Lee, Sierra, Loffaru, Garo, Rennie, Xeno, Rebecca, Bud 2. Xinny- Mahter, Barts, Lionel, Rishel, Roger, Lionnheart, Mel, Billford, Verna, Thomas 3. Jedi- Arkis, Vega, Ezekiel, Maruju, Julia, Rina, Raquel, Yoda, Zachariah, Ruka 4. IceSage- Kreiss/Leteena, Zeek, Meriah, Frau, Samson, Shirou, Yuni, Attrom, Maerhen, Krisheenu 5. Sharpy- Ester, Sasha, Alicia, Sun, Mintz, Norton, Kate, Sharon, Hagaru, Narcus

Mancer hasn't posted in a while, but his last one was about how people should contribute on N0 because that's when scum don't have their guard up. The interesting thing about this is that for the most part, there is more relevant stuff after he said that than before he said it, but he hasn't commented on any of that despite the attitude he's espousing. As for Marth, it feels weird that he seems to suddenly want to spark discussion right now when he seemed content to spam earlier in N0. He could have just gotten bored, I suppose, but eh. I suck at using meta so I don't really know about the Marth not being tryhard bit. Over the last few games, I've tried not to keep those things with me coming in because I feel I play better without meta.

Mancer and Marth are kind of pinging me a bit as reminding me of my play in Mystery on N0- I tried to look extra town by trying extra hard to scumhunt on N0 even though there wasn't really a need to do so.

It was dumb of me, and I admit that. Do you really think that whether I was town or mafia, if I'd known it was full NOC, I'd have claimed N0?

I sent mine in ages ago. We're probably waiting on people like Rocker.

There isn't really much to be said until the game starts, though I have an idea of who I'm going to vote based on gut off N0.

Happy birthday Elie!

It'll be revealed tomorrow with my announcement, I believe, but I'm Kiwi.

If you think I'm hiding part of my role, why draw attention to it?

I'm not sure any of us knew the item thing, but if you look at just roles, we basically had to unload ourselves on Elie for at least 2 night phases, and we ourselves were just told that he would be "disadvantaged", which doesn't really justify us deciding to do that. To be fair, the need to eliminate Elie was exacerbated because of the role he took, but even the items he made were a large threat.

cam what have we told you about not posting in games you're not playing in