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Bleh, I didn't really understand how to scumhunt in OC and Prims seemed so confident that what he said seemed to make sense. Ughhhhh that was a bad game (for me, not set-up wise).

FML gg

>_> I dislike how Lucy CPed reasoning for her vote from someone else. I'm not saying all the reasoning for my votes have been 100% mine either, but I didn't do it to that extent. She's just following along with what other people are saying and not really giving her own opinions about anyone.

I feel like the scum are between SB/Mancer/Lucina. I thought Lucy was the townier of these three, but I was going through what she said, and: [5:05:26 PM] Doofina: why would you be okay with a cam lynch? [5:06:34 PM] Rohan Kulkarni: PoE i guess [5:06:45 PM] Doofina: okay [5:07:06 PM] Doofina: I didn't see much of a reason to lynch Cam, but I guess PoE works Then she voted for him. On main IRC she said that she thought he was going to get lynched anyways, so she voted for him to hurry it along, which doesn't feel very townie to me. ##Vote: Lucina

Chapter 7: 6/52 Runan fullmoved every turn while Raffin came down from the top to help break the door and Lee came from the bottom. Then Raffin went ahead and killed everything. Chapter 8: 10/62 Xeno got a few levels off going up and clearing everything in Runan's path. Lee took care of most of the left side, with some help from Raffin. Yuni got the Thunder Sword, Iron Shield, and Agi+. Basically had to choose between the Thunder Sword and Knight Proof, and took the former because I only have Narron as a Knight Proof unit, while I have several swordies who might like the Thunder Sword. Chapter 9: 12/74 All my hate. Stoopid Narcissus. Didn't help that I had to reset to the army split like three times because of dumb stuff I forgot to do. Hurricane Raffin was great in this chapter against the Dark Mages and Witches, he OHKOd them before they could even damage him. He also ORKOd the boss and pretty much cleared most of Runan's path for him. He also gained SPD a few times this chapter and then Combo Attack near the very end. Runan fullmoved almost every turn. I guess it's possible to 11 turn this while still recruiting Narcissus, but it's difficult. I can't remember how many turns I got last time, but I had Zeek last time as well, whereas this was just Runan/Enteh/Plum/Raffin/Lee, as Garo and Xeno went over to Holmes. Lee was pretty useful with his ability to pick off stragglers who left the main enemy assault to heal, and Enteh provided some good backup with the Far-Healing Staff. Lee also gained his first two stat level! Too bad it was LUK/HP.

My current scumreads are a lot of PoE, mainly. I don't think Prims or Elie are scum and Prims seems to think Shinori is town, so I'm trusting him for the moment. I know I'm not scum, so that leaves Cam/SB/Mancer/Lucy. Cam and Lucy both feel apathetic to me in that though they have reads and tell me them when I ask for them, they don't actually try pushing for anything at all. I've already said stuff about SB, and as for Mancer, his reaction to the turbowagon on him before he logged on felt fake to me. It seemed too uncaring about the fact that he had 3/5 necessary votes already. I would have expected Mancer, whether town or scum, to react more to something like that. His reaction was so joking though, especially since his opinion is that all votes, even ED1 jokevotes, matter. It makes me think that his scumbuddy told him not to react before he posted.

I hate DDR... ##Vote: SB IMO we should go back to this.

##Unvote, ##Vote: Shin

SB's defence seems fishy and I didn't really like his (or Prims's, for that matter, but I don't think Prims is scum) attitude about the Mancer lynch. I think I jumped the gun a bit with the Shinori vote, so: ##Unvote, ##Vote: SB Also we need to hurry up if we're actually going to lynch 3 people tonight. I guess I could go for a Shin lynch as the first one if nobody wants to lynch SB right now. Can we get votals?

If you're town, that's horrible play SB.

Are you seriously voting for the equivalent of a nolynch Elie?

I assumed you left in the meantime as well, and since I didn't see you say anything in the general chat either I didn't continue.

Yeah, so we're not randomlynching, we're lynching the people we find scummy based off these interactions.

Shinori, you said that you told me and Prims different things. From what it says from the logs you posted, you told both of us the exact same thing- that you'd be willing to vote Mancer. Except you didn't. You're also completely missing the point of Prims's plan. It wasn't about turbolynching Mancer, it was about lynching multiple people today. I didn't say much because someone came to the door and I had to go for 10-15 minutes. ##Unvote, ##Vote: Shinori Since SB won't be here for a while anyways.

ED1 scumteam guess: SB/Shinori SB based off what I said earlier and Shinori because in the convo I had with him he didn't really say much. He also indicated that he'd be okay with piling votes on Mancer for reactions and then never actually did it.

That doesn't answer my point at all. My point is why didn't you do that right away instead of waiting for somebody else to do it first? My vote stays for now: playing TRS.

SB what do you have to say wrt what I said?

##Unvote, ##Vote: SB This is unrelated from Mancer's point. I didn't like how you thought that turbolynching was a good idea but then didn't actually vote to lynch him until after I did. Seems like a way to push off the blame of a possible mislynch.

Everybody should tell me what they think of turbolynching Mancer.

@SB- That's not really what I asked for, but I sense you don't want to tell more so whatever.

derp wrong person ##Unvote, ##Vote: Mancer I should stop thinking about other things while typing.

Let's see where this goes ##Vote: Prims

The thing is, a mafia redirecting SB over someone like Lucy/Bal makes little sense because he hasn't claimed, so for him to be redirected, he was either redirected by a town redirector, or he was Rolecopped N0 and the mafia decided that his role should be redirected for whatever reason. But generally on N0, mafia want to Rolecop a player who doesn't often get lynched, or someone who breadcrumbed something, neither of which SB is. And a town redirector wouldn't mess with the claimed Vig variant in any case.

That makes it even less likely that there's a Driver because then multiple people would have been redirected.

IMO we should just do one lynch today and then see who gets killed at night, because it let's us know who the mafia think is town. Not a randlynch because that's lame, but we play this somewhat as we would play an NOC game, so we get interactions and all da good stuff.