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I'm not, but I think Othin and Elie are worse. Anyways, I'll be back in a while, but I want Othin to actually come up with something. He's just going along with what others are saying right now.

To sum up my complete thoughts about him, I see the reasons for the case but I don't think that they're as strong as what could be said about Elie, Othin, or even Psych.

WRT Prims's Manix case- I don't fully agree with it. Manix did have a lot of comments about policy-lynching Kiryn, which I pointed out yesterday, but he also did comment on other stuff while he said it in most of his other posts. Also, as far as policy-lynching Kiryn goes despite him not having a scumread on him, I agree with that. Most vigs are limited shot, so why should one shoot someone who, if telling the truth, is an Eagle Eye? It was a pretty unbelievable claim, but eh.

Like, look at this post. "I couldn't find anything I could use to push a lynch on Manix, so please do the work for me so that I can jump on the wagon later."

Bizz, why do you think Manix is worse than Elie or Othin?

Unless you're counterclaiming the Mason claim, I don't see what problem you have. ##Vote: Othin I actually feel better about this than Elieson. Othin was right about Kiryn, but him voting Kiryn for 2/3rds of the phase, offering no opinions in the meantime, and then voting Prims for tunneling on her is still bad. And he hasn't done anything this phase other than vote Shinori, which he retracted pretty quickly anyways. On the other hand Elie has at least been giving consistent reads.

13th, when you gave MK Innes, did you count Mage Knight as a promo of Mage or Troubadour? Also, take Fighter Knoll. I'll pick Cormag and Duessel.

I have a feeling that this game will either be absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible.

In but only if I'm town.

I have the BIGGEST SWORD.

Have Monk Kyle. Josh and Tana for me

Have fun with Archer Franz. I'll take Garcia and Artur.

Wait, to clarify, are we just promoting the trainees to those classes, and fixing them there, or adding new Shaman, Knight, and Fighter slots?

Also I think that Ephraim should focus on MAG and RES instead of MAG and DEF. Though I'm fine with thwomp Mage Eph, lol. I took the liberty of seeing how many of each class we can assign: I don't know how it's going to work with the trainees. If people want you can replace those with appropriate first-tier options. I also made Duessel count for the Knight path instead of the Cavalier path because I felt there were enough Cavalier slots. I also deducted one slot from Merc, Mage, and Myrmidon, since Eirika, Ephraim, and Seth, respectively, will take those automatically. So Merc is the new Lord class gg.

In, as long as someone else is willing to make the patch.

I said that about them because I didn't actually have much of an opinion on either of them apart from what was said. Considering I still gave opinions on almost everybody in the game who had more than like five posts, saying I don't have much of an opinion on 3-4 guys doesn't mean much to me. And I didn't cut them out because the whole point of the post was to say what I thought about the entire game if I died, which I thought there was a small chance of happening. Plus I wanted to do something mafia related after the big Void that had opened in my life after dying in the other game, and nobody here was really saying much.

My apologies Manix, I was just skimming the last few pages and I saw a lot of instances of you saying things like "We're testing LP", "Don't flavourspec", or "Masons are town". You did say those things a lot, but you also had other stuff in there that was okay which I kind of missed because I was skimming. So that makes me feel a bit better about you I guess. I'd probably bump Mancer up to the bottom of the next tier though because it's not good to be too trusting of him.

Rapier is just being Rapier, I think (as in flaking and going inactive). I also think that the mafia should kill me N1 so I can sub back into the game for Rapier. Listpost of reads because I'm bored and dead in the other game: Manix: Early play was a bit ehh and then he disappeared for a bit (though I'm not in a position to say much about that) and stopped really saying much but the obvious, or general stuff like "Othin don't flavourspec". He also just had a couple posts where he was like, A is scummy but Elie is worse. Leaning scum. Kiryn: I think I am in a position of authority to say that Lynchproof is a claim that should be tested. Plus, Eagle Eye is strong enough that it doesn't need Lynchproof as an extra. GG if you're Fool though. I'm pretty sure Kiryn is not town and if she is then this set-up can probably be treated at the least as unorthodox, if not bastard. Bizz: ~Vibes, but she seems too eager to respond to everything. I might just be being paranoid though. Null overall I guess. Rein: Rein, I'm pretty sure that if you had time to talk to me for hours every day in Void, you have more than enough time to post more here. BBM: Is probably scum, because listposts are scummy. Elie: Didn't say much early on and then voted Prims citing "reaction test". I feel that this is something scum do if they want to make a vote and can't be bothered to come up with much of a reason afterwards. After that he said Prims was his main scumread, just because he was pushing Kiryn hard, which is a kind of shitty reason for someone to be your main scumread. Makes me think he was trying to cover up his previous crappy vote. Shinori/Prims: Town because lol at fakeclaiming Masons. If they get to talk to each other in OC (please confirm this) they should work on presenting a more unified front now that they're outed anyways, since they seem to have differing opinions on everyone other than Kiryn. Othin: He's letting flavour play too much of an impact in his reads. He seemed to know what he was doing in RVS, so the fact that I can't really remember anything out of him at all is a bit disturbing. He RVS voted Kiryn and then just sort of stuck his vote there, saying that he saw no problems with it, but didn't actually try to get other people voting for her too. Then he voted Prims afterwards for pushing Kiryn too much, and said that she was a bad lynch target. If she was a bad lynch target, then why were you voting for her for 2/3rds of the phase? Psych: I never really know what to say about Psych, because his play is fairly similar in a bad way whether he's town or scum. Pushed on Prims for tunneling on Kiryn, saying that Prims wasn't commenting on anything else. He was though, and in fact it was Psych who was just pushing Prims. In fact I still haven't seen him find anyone other than Prims scummy. Even his vote for Kiryn was just "since Prims claimed mason". He also called Prims out for using experience as an argument when voting for Kiryn, but then also used the fact that she was new to defend her. So I'm kind of suspicious. Obviam: Hasn't really posted anything of worth at all, but he's also only had like two posts. Rapier: Hasn't really posted anything of worth at all, but he's also only had like four posts. Mancer: I think he's being a bit too jumpy with regards to acting as if everything is a scumslip, but that's just kind of how Mancer plays, so meh. tl dlr; have a more or less ordered list Would Lynch Kiryn Elieson Othin Would be Wary of Psych Manix Bizz Would not Lynch Mancer Prims/Shinori BBM Needs to Post More Rein Obviam Rapier

I think that everyone should just vote for Kiryn because lynching anyone else clearly isn't happening, unless someone claims scum.

Generally the mafia are given both character fakeclaims when the flavour is something that other people might know (and Scorri alluded just now that she did). So I really don't think that flavourspec is going to make a difference here, especially as Scorri would probably want people to be able to do as well regardless of their knowledge of Homestuck.

Othin, you shouldn't let your knowledge of the flavour cloud your judgement. Jesters that end the game when they win are kind of lame anyways and I doubt Scorri would include one. Anyways I still think Elie is scum but for some reason people are unvoting Kiryn and after the lynchproof claim I don't think anyone else should be lynched today. So ##Unvote, ##Vote: Kiryn Sorry for being a bit inactive, I had a long day of classes today and then I paid attention to Void first.

Basically, the moral of the story is that whenever I claim Vig, I'm actually ITP, even when I really am Vig.

Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Once I was a very young Vig, and very young Vigs are none too clever Sailed across to faraway lands And faraway towns of Werewolves and the Void Ran amok in a town called Antioch Lost my mind in the depths of the Void Now I’m going to the graveyard Help me up move right, left foot forward Oh we had a merry old time, but merry old times don’t count for nothing Culting, plots and women and wine Memories blur and they make me shudder Bed in the morning, eight, four, five, couple of days to get my head off Now I’m going to the graveyard Help me up move right left foot forward To Were Were Were Were Were Were Were (Oooo ooo oooooo oooo) I’m troubled by Were Were Were Were Were Were Werewolves in Void Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Far below the best players, the best players won’t live for ever Take your soul and you can go far, Unless you get consumed by the Void The best players are those who die You can take now and I’ll take never Now I’m coming on back Help me up move right left foot forward To Were Were Were Were Were Were Were (Oooo ooo oooooo oooo) I’m troubled by Were Were Were Were Were Were Werewolves in Void Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Were Were Were Were Were Were Were I’m troubled by Were Were Were Were Were Were Werewolves in Void Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Oooo ooo oooooo oooo Soon I’ll be a very old Cult Leader, and very old Cult Leaders they dream of winning Spent with cultbuddies in postgame While the rest of the game screams in frustration Ran amok in a town called Antioch Lost my mind in the depths of the Void Now I’m going to the graveyard Help me up move right left foot forward

Werewolves for town mvp

It's not actually the weekend anymore here, but it is in some timezones, so pretend that's where I live. Chapter 14x! Pretty easy overall, other than Ohtz raining Boltings down that 2HKOd everybody and even ORKOd some people coughclarineroytatecough