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Are there not enough votes on SB? Eclipse probably just hasn't seen the thread yet, but ##Unvote, ##Vote: Serious Bananas in case.

You guys didn't think I forgot about this, did you!? I've just been busy, but here's Chapter 10!

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I think when he said he was giving up he just meant that he personally was giving up, not that he was the last member of the scumteam and was surrendering.

Well, generally when people talk about which Cavalier is the best, they talk about HHM, where Lowen's cruddy offensive stats catch up to him fairly soon. In HNM the enemies are piss easy though, so his offensive stats being just barely adequate is good enough. Also, I've never had Raven get in the way of Hector, even when I have neither Priscilla nor Raven drafted.

Someone better explain stuff to me in postgame because I have no clue wtf is going on right now. Also, Paper, how did you find out that Marth is a Survivor if you're only an Alliance Checker? Or are you a fullcop?

You can claim your role name and what your role does. So you have a one-shot ability that lets you reflect all kills targeting you back to the person targeting you? Or is this all actions? Also this sounds kind of like a fakeclaim, but it's not that hard to test, so.

Also, ##Vote: Marth so you can claim.

I hooked SB last night. If we're lynching between them, he should probably be our target, although I'd question why they sent him on the kill, knowing he was one of my potential hook targets, unless both him and Mancer were scum. Also, I made a mistake while claiming that I didn't realize until I opened my role PM to send in my night action. I'm actually a 3-shot Hooker, not a 2-shot Hooker, meaning I still have 2 shots left. Marth, when you run out of Watcher shots, do you get to use your Amnesiac power again, or no?

24 hour day phases sound really short, especially because with timezones and school and stuff, most people would miss half the day phase, and being able to talk at night doesn't really make up for it.

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But if teams that have Lowen beat even the best teams that don't have him by at least 1 turn, that implies that most teams lose out to Lowen teams by at least 2 turns, so probably at least half the drafters can recruit Lucius without losing any turns.

Possibly, but my point was that his lower SPD mitigates his higher CON. The case for Lowen > Kent/Sain is basically just more availability -> higher level- his stats are worse than both of their's.

He has the worst SPD though, so not really.

##Unvote, ##Vote: Manix I'll probably flip a coin and hook one of them- that way if they're both scum they won't know who to send on the kill.

Paper called for a vig shot, and just about everyone in the game had said that they thought I was scummy at one point or the other- I thought there was a decent chance I'd get vigged. Whatever, like I said, I didn't think it through fully.

Should I just hammer?

The spotlight wasn't on me? Paper had just called for my vig shot. And yes, when you say "Paper would look...not so town", that implies "Paper would look scummier". Whatever.

Also, do the town actually want me to hook anyone, or should I idle again?

Manix's apathy is making me reconsider my thoughts about him! This will probably be seen as an attempt to distance myself from Manix after spending a phase saying I didn't think he was scummy, but oh well! Note: Even if Manix flips scum I don't think that it really makes Paper and Elie look better- remember Theatre? He got himself pretty thoroughly bussed there.

Thing is, I'm pretty sure Renault costs turns too.

Well, I'm back earlier than I expected, although I need to study so I won't be here fully. Paper, Elieson, and everyone else, have you forgotten that Marth is actually an Amnesiac, and not a Watcher? There isn't actually a counterclaim here. This is why I can think of both Marth and Manix as neutral, because I'm not actually considering this a counterclaim! Also, Elieson, note how I didn't say Mancer was playing in a townie way, I said I was putting him at the top of my neutral list because of Eclipse's tendency to not make new players scum. And why exactly do I deserve to be shot in the face for this? Why would scum think like this? I will apologize for my claim though; I didn't think it through fully. I just thought it would be better to get my claim out, since I didn't think I'd be back before phase end. I found that post by Elie pretty terrible. First he says Helios was doing nothing, then he says he actually is, but doesn't say why? Instead he says what he's not doing. And then he says that Paper would look scummier if I flipped town- although I think he's scum, that doesn't make him scummier if I flip town- and you've pushed harder for my lynch than he has, I think, and I've pushed harder for yours recently than I have for Paper's. By your logic, the town should find you scummy if I flip town. Then that bit about SB was just weird- you say you still think he's scum but he's more likely to be bad town? I didn't understand it at all. I think SB is scummy too, btw- it seems like he's coasting.

Like I said, I did it in case he did turn out to be there. Also, I purposely timed it so that I'd be able to check the thread when I did, because that's when I'd have to stop studying and start getting ready to go out. Also, I'm probably not going to be back before phase end, and I sense that I am either going to lynched or vigged, so I'm going to claim. I'm the town 2-shot Hooker. I idled N1 because I didn't want to hit a town PR, although I seriously considered hooking Paper. I didn't think he'd be sent to take the kill if he was scum though, and thought that the risk of hitting a town PR was worse than the benefit of possibly hooking a scum who wasn't going to kill anyone. My list of reads in case I die, in order of most likely to be town to least likely. Sadly, I don't have enough time to explain these beyond what I've already done. Haze Mancer Helios Marth Manix SB Paperblade Elieson I've mainly dropped my Helios scumread. Mancer doesn't actually look townie but I have a bunch of null reads and I think Eclipse doesn't like making new players scum. That being said he needs to be pushed harder for proper reads.