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This is my vote. Magnemite gets a 5.75/10

I forgot about Iris, which is why I said later that I need to rethink. I still think that there are a lot of conflicting claims in this set-up, and I strongly feel that one of you, Manix, and Bizz is lying scum. The alternative is a Blitz/Iris scumteam who're making this stuff up about her being a lyncher.

Not necessarily. I think Kaoz was scummy, but if someone came up with a really bullshit reasoning for voting for him/Elieson, I'd probably accuse them of bussing or something.

Hmm... need to rethink.

Did Iris ever say that Yugi is her target?

Blitz, if you think this is possibly our last day phase, why do you want people to claim tomorrow instead of today? What use will that do? By the way, if a mislynch today means a loss, that is a further reason to vote SB today. Even the worst case scenario ensures we are still in the game tomorrow, while the worst case scenario of any other lynch means we lose.

The game counts defend chapters that can't be ended early as one extra, but we don't for drafting purposes. Also, meatshielding is allowing people to get attacked without counterattacking. Additionally, the Kenneth/Jerme route split is determined by levels gained, not experience. So the change gained by meatshielding a bit won't make a difference, as the default is Kenneth. And I didn't give you any Jerme units, so you're going to Kenneth.

Also, Blitz, which posts of Rapier's do you think looked weird? His posts, although low in quantity, were actually looking okay to me for the most part.

So we have a one-shot deathproof AND a bomb? This really doesn't sit right with me. That's two people out of 7 who would screw the mafia over if they were targeted for the nightkill. So now SB's claim conflicts with Bizz's AND Manix's. We should really lynch him.

@Blitz- I actually don't like that post of his much. His point in regards to Manix doesn't mean anything, and his question towards Marth isn't really scumhunting either. His points against Prims and Aere are good, but the wording of the point against Prims implies that he doesn't find Prims scummy for playing both sides regarding Snike. Then when he gives scumreads at the bottom, he says he prefers a lynch on Core to a lynch on Marth, even though he hasn't said a single thing about Core the whole game.

Blitz, why do you think Kaoz looked better near the end of D1?

err ##Unvote, ##Vote: Elieson

Okay, I ISOd most of the people on Marth's wagon, and I think Kaoz looked the worst. Not only did he post very sparingly, his posts weren't very good. His first couple posts are RVS and stuff, nothing much to say there. His first serious vote is on Marth, for not contributing. This is earlyish in the phase, so it is a fair opinion, but considering that this is also HIS first post of any contribution, it's sort of hypocritical. Then he says the line about only giving player opinions when he finds them relevant. His point about not outing town reads is fair enough, but it doesn't explain why he isn't outing very many scumreads. The ones that he DOES have are Marth, Boron, Jedi, Aere, all major wagons, and his reasoning is the same that others have given. He sort of plays both sides when giving his opinions about the Jedi/Manix player slot later on. Says Manix is solid, but Jedi was bad, so he wouldn't mind lynching them. Then he says Core looks worse than Marth, and will vote for Core if a Manix wagon doesn't take off. However, while he's poked at Narth before, he hasn't said anything at all about Core- looks like bussing to me. Plus, when the time comes, he votes for Marth instead, and gives no reason for the switch except for Marth's claim and "looking back". But he doesn't say what exactly he found while looking back that made him decide once more that Marth was scum. Kaoz and Core for scumbuddies, I think. ##Vote: Kaoz

No Doctor is possible also.

Like I said, that's the worst-case scenario. I admit that a NL wouldn't be ideal, but I don't think we should let the claim slide this easily considering we have a second role that can stop lynches. Why was nobody this hesitant to test a lynchproof claim when I made one?

Ah, nvm, I didn't read the wiki thread properly. Yeah, going with what Excellen said, try PSXFin, it worked well for me (although I haven't tried it after the patch).

Alternatively, one of the people claiming kill preventation is lying. Godfathers/Millers can have a different role upon inspection as well as just a different alignment. For example Rapier in MoMM.

See Training Mafia for a minimafia game with a Tailor in it.

TRS is for the Playstation, no?

Really? I've never been an active member of a Pokemon-based forum, but the Pokemon fanbases on all the forums I've been a part of have been pretty cool.

Flipping votes? This is only my second vote of the phase. scumscumscum. Also, asking for a report is stupid because Godfathers and Tailors exist. If it happens to be a nolynch, then I don't know at the moment.

##Unvote, ##Vote: Serious Bababas

So SB is a one-time deathproof AND Bizz is a one-time lynch canceler? That's two townie deaths town can stop. IMO, that's too strong in a minimafia. It gives me the feeling that one of them are scum. Aere has inspected Bizz, and while he hasn't said yet that Bizz is fakeclaiming, Bizz wouldn't risk it (unless they were scumbuddies). ##Unvote, ##Vote: Serious Bananas Best case scenario, we lynch scum, worst-case scenario, it results in a no-lynch.

Chapter 11: 6/6 So standard it hurts. Chapter 12: 4/10 Same as above. Chapter 13: 6/16 Meh, Marcus went south the first time and got double crit, and I just couldn't be bothered to try that route again after that. Chapter 13x: 7/23 Yeah. Chapter 14: 4/27 There was some screwed up glitch where the PKs spawned at the beginning of Turn 4 EP, which made the chapter take 6 turns, but I'm not counting that because they're not supposed to be there. Chapter 15: 7/34 Haha Matthew got a perfect level. Chapter 16: 6/40 I didn't position Marcus correctly Turn 3 and was too lazy to do it again. Honestly, no flier and no warper means I'm not going to win this, so I'm really just doing this draft because it affects other people's scores. Chapter 17: 9/49 Yeah. Kent and Sain aren't adept enough at fighting yet to do better, even as a duo. Chapter 17x: 4/53 Can be done in 3 turns, I guess. Oh well. Also, fail, I just realized Marcus can be used for C17. Oh well.,

I agree that my hop from Aere to Marth wasn't very good. But I'd been sick and busy for most of C1 and the only person I'd been able to form any sort of scumread on was Aere. So late in the phase, when I started realizing that my reasons for voting for Aere weren't that good, neither the town nor I had much time to pick a wagon other than the ones that were currently on the table. I ISOd both Core and Marth, and I decided that Marth looked worse out of the two.