Vicious Sal

So I thought, why not just draft according to numbers? Numbers? Yes, Numbers, best example is POr and RD draft. Normally you say: I want Marcia, Jill, etc. However, IF you say: I want the 20th character, which would be Jill in Por (Ike and Titania are not taken into the calculation ofc), you would end up with Leanne in Radiant dawn. This way you compromise more, and there are probably less broken options. (I haven't checked if there are broken combo's like Reyson in POR = Haar in RD). Ofcourse this gets tricky with things like multiple recruitments from the start (Chapter 1 Por (Boyd and oscar join at the same time)). This could be placed according to the tier list. So oscar would be counted as first recruit, and boyd second. Or something like that. Anyway, I wanted to throw it in here before I start a draft, so, discuss. =D Rules: 1. 7 contenders: The obvious objective is completing Path of Radiance (Fixed Mode & Hard Mode) & Radiant Dawn (Normal Mode) in the lowest turncount you could imagine. 2. Units that are free for all to use are: Ike, Titania(PoR), Micaiah, Sothe(RD). Black Knight may be used freely at the starting pointin 1-E, as soon as he climbs up, he faces a 10 Turn penalty. Free for other chapters Titania(RD) and Sothe(PoR) will be drafted & Black Knight will be drafted for 1-E, so he who drafts him can have him climb stairs. 3. You may transfer data of this draft playthrough from PoR to RD. No other transfers may be used. 4. Undrafted units are not allowed to: enter combat (no meatshielding), shove/smite/rescue drafted units/enemies/NPCs, build supports, use staves, steal, visit villages, open/break chests/doors, find hidden items (this includes PoR Chapter 15 & RD 4-3), sing Galdrar, give Daunt/Pool/Tide bonuses, shift, etc. [unless stated otherwise] 5. Undrafted units may: trade with units and shove/rescue other undrafted units. 6. Other and Partner/Ally units may do as they please without penalty. 7. 4 turn penalty for using an undrafted unit in PoR. 8. Limits placed on PoR BEXP are also listed below (use this topic for reference; here to, changes have been made). POR: - At the beginning of each chapter, you may 'cap off' any character except Titania to their next level if they have more than 50 EXP. If they have less than 50 EXP, you may BEXP them up to 50 EXP. You may NOT however, keep Bexp-ing DRAFTED units without entering them in combat. - Units that you use in RD may be freely* BEXP-ed to get transfers. This however, may only be done in "Endgame, Repatriation". - Don't BEXP abuse for good level ups. RD BEXP is free to use. 9. Exception to rule 4: Reyson and the Hawks may be used to get Naesala to retreat in PoR Chapter 19. Make sure they stay out of combat if you don't draft them. Ulki and Janaff may enter combat if they are untransformed until Neasala retreats. Reyson may always enter combat without penalty. (Though not practical) Teams: (Order randomized) Vicious Sal: Oscar/Edward, Reyson/Mordecai, Ulki/Geoffrey, Volke/Muarim, Fe10 Mia,<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Silver Harpoon: Marcia/Zihark, Tanith/Lucia, Callil/Kieran, Tibarn/Shinon, Janaff<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Toon Link: Jill/Marcia, Lucia/Titania, Shinon/Laura, Fe10 Reyson<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Soul: Tormod/Haar, Rofl/Jill, Makalulz/Nealuchi, Mordecai/Tormod<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Mysterio: Rhys/Nolan, Stefan/Nephenee, Nephenee/Rafiel, Kieran/Vika<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Mr. Game And Watch: Soren/Aran, Boyd/Leonardo, Sothe/Elincia, Astrid/Leanne<br style="color: rgb(7, 55, 2); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(239, 255, 240); ">Rapier: Ilyana/Volug, Mist/Tauroneo, Gatrie/Ilyana, Mia/Meg [spoiler=RD Penalties]Penalties: Forced Character Penalties 1-P: Edward(3) Leo(2) 1-1: Edward/Nolan (3) Leo(2) 1-2: Edward/Nolan/Laura (3 ) Leo(2 ) 1-3: Edward/Nolan/Laura/Illyana (3) Leo/Aran(2) 1-4: None* 1-5: Volug(5) it's a defend map so don't let him attack 1-6-1: Tauroneo(5) Volug(4) 1-6-2: Same as above^ 1-7: Volug/Muarim/Tormod(4) Vika(3) 1-8: Nailah (6), Rafiel/Tormod/Maurim, Volug/Vika(3) 1-9: None* 1-E: Volug (3) 2-P : 3 for everyon. However, you can use 1 unit free of penalty. 2-1 : Neph/Brom(3) 2-2 : Lucia (4), The rest(3 each) 2-3 : Kieran/Geoffrey(3) 2-E : Elincia(5) Marcia/CRK(3) 3-P : Titania(5) Gatrie/Shinon/Oscar/Boyd/Mia(4) Rhys/Mist/Soren/Rolf(3) 3-1 : Titania(5) Gatrie/Shinon/Oscar//Boyd/Mia(4) Rhys/Mist/Soren/Rolf(3) 3-2 : None* 3-3 : None* You can deploy one undrafted 6 move unit to 3-3 without penalty. 3-4 : Ranulf(4) 3-5 : None* 3-6 : None* 3-7 : Ranulf/Zihark/Janaff/Ulki(4), Jill (2) 3-8 : Ranulf(4) 3-9 : Geoffrey(3) 3-10 : Ranulf(4) 3-11 : Ranulf/Leanne/Sigrun/Tanith (4) 3-12 : Tauroneo (6) 3-13 : Same as 3-12 3-E : Ranulf/Sigrun/Zihark(3), Jill (2) 4-P : Skrimir/Naesala(5) Sigurn/Sanaki(2) 4-1 : None* 4-2 : Tibarn (7) Elincia (3) Pelleas (2) 4-3 : Naesala (5), Skrimir(4) Sigrun/Stefan(3), Sanaki (2) 4-4 : Muarim (3), Vika/Tormod (2) 4-5 : Tibarn (7) Elincia/Volke (3) * The chapters with no penalties do NOT mean you can use anybody in that chapter. They just mean that no one besides Ike/Micaiah/Sothe are forced, and therefore the only people in play should be them and the people you drafted. [spoiler=PoR BEXP limits] Chapter Character BEXP <BR>8 Ike +0.X <BR> Boyd +0.X <BR> Oscar +0.X <BR> Rhys +3.X <BR> Soren +2.X <BR> Mia +2.X <BR><BR>9 Ilyana +2.X <BR> Mist 6/- <BR> Rolf 7/- <BR><BR>10 Lethe +0 <BR> Mordecai +0 <BR> Marcia +2.X <BR> Volke +1.X <BR><BR>11 Kieran 11/- <BR> Brom 10/- <BR> Nephenee 11/-<BR> <BR>12 Zihark 10/- <BR> Sothe 8/-<BR> <BR>13 Jill +1.X<BR> <BR>14 Astrid +4.X <BR> Gatrie +2.X< BR><BR>15 Makalov +3.X <BR><BR>16 Muarim +0< BR> Tormod 9/-< BR> Stefan +0< BR><BR>17 Danved +2.X< BR><BR>18 Tanith +0< BR> Janaff 9 <BR> Ulki 9 <BR> Reyson +0 <BR><BR>19 Shinon +4.X< BR> Calill +0< BR><BR>22 Tauroneo +2.X<B R><BR>23 Ranulf +0 <BR><BR>24 Haar +0 <BR><BR>25 Lucia +2.X <BR> Bastian +2.X< BR> Geoffrey +0< BR> Largo -/9<BR ><BR>26 Elincia -/6<B R><BR>28 Ena 13< BR> Nasir +0 [spoiler=The drafting List:]First Line = Por Second = Rd Quite obvlious 12 Lethe = Fiona<BR> 16 Brom = Nailah<BR> 18 Zihark = Black Knight<BR> 24 Muarim = Brom<BR> 26 Devdan = Heather<BR> 29 Janaff = Lethe<BR> 32 Tauroneo = Astrid<BR> 33 Haar = Makalov<BR >34 Ranulf = Danved<BR> 35 Bastian = Calill<BR> 37 Geoffrey = Soren<BR> 38 Largo = Mist<BR> 39 Elincia = Rolf<BR> 40 Nasir = Boyd<BR> 41 Ena = Oscar<BR> 43 Nealasa = Gatrie<BR> 44 Giffca = Rhys<BR> 46 Ranulf<BR >47 Kyza<BR> 48 Lyre<BR> >51 Ulki<BR >52 Sigrun<BR> 53 Tanith<BR> 54 Skrimir<BR> 55 Neasala<BR> 56 Sanaki<BR> 57 Tibarn<BR> 58 Pelleas<BR> 59 Stefan<BR> 60 Oliver<BR> 61 Bastian<BR> 62 Volke<BR> 63 Caineghis<BR> 64 Giffca<BR> 65 Kurthnaga<BR> 66 Ena<BR> 67 Renning<BR> 68 Nasir<BR> 69 Gareth<BR> 70 Lehran From mia on, it's all the normal recruitment of Radiant dawn.

VOlug also has no Gauge issues in NM. He has wildheart, with which he does KO. Bexp praying for his strenth isn't needed since he increases damage with his strike level. As long as he can keep doubling enemies, he'll be fine. And he's got HP enough to compensate for eventual def & res failure.

" in addition, I'll alow any Heron of your choice to be free for Endgame." Rafiel is more practical. :3

Oh yes, how his water pokemon spit fire and raze villages. His only Water type is kingdra. 8D I think you're mixing him with wallace, who does water, Drake does dragon. Lance should've, but Drake is a very nice replacement. ;o

Chapter 14 3 Turns, With a spirit dust, Laguz lance, Laguz bow, red gem & killer axe. Zihark used full Move, Ike shoved him once, Killing edge fun ended it on PH. Since Makalov would always attack after gashilama. =/ 3 turns. CHapter 15 Some Zihark Shoving Put him in range of muarim on turn 5, leaving Muraim with 3 Hp after laguzslayer. Volke got boots & physic for cash, neph got the shine, cash. Rolf & Ike failed at guard. =/ 5 Turns Chapter 16: [Resolved] Titania took Ike & arrived in the throne room turn 4, dropping Ike. Volke got some shoves etc. and opened the room turn 5, turn 6 he got full guard for tanith. Ike seized after that. Nephenee promoted using a seal. 6 Turns Right now, I'm only taking 1 Turn more than Xander, I hope Full guard is worth it.

Playable only, exception made for Uwee hee hee Por: Astrid and her endless being killed. Makalov for looking like ronald mac donald. That's it? Well, yeah every senator except hetzel. I dunno, don't really dislike any except Makalov, and astrid for that one chapter. Though that's actually more Hate towards the Myrmidon. =/

See, just like I said, It doesn't fit him. 8D

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IS It safe to post again. *Shivers* Anyway, I've given up on getting vantage, red gem & 3-turn Kill. Titania can't reach the vantage house before Zihark kills gashilama. I'll post soon with an update.

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Best: Pookums Honorable mentions to: Silver- Haired Maiden, Maiden of Dawn, Wittle Ikey, Ike-poo, Fireman, Father of sothe's children, Worst: Sub-Human

##Unvote: Wen Yang ##Vote: Anouleth Again, thanks for the update on the situation Eclipse. Just saving myself. =/

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Not to the dutch versions. 8D Where people actually sleep during the night phase and don't talk. Where dead people are dead and where there aren't several factions that really confuse me. ;o [This was actually quite pointless, I really need to open a WVW somewhere soon] About the twelve Hours however, once I'm off to bed. (half an hour, maybe 1?) I'll won't be awake before the verdict. So these are the last posts I can give. (Given the current conditions)

If I have learned one thing in mafia's, Reacting, overreacting, underreacting, bargains, begging, everything you say is received in a way that is unbeneficial. Aslo, state the Super overreact part, i only wanted to know about Wen tang his situation, and get punished. =/ Anyway, since I'm as good as dead, I might activate my role and take some of you with me.

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