Reikken

Gonzales and Lugh are debateable vs Echidna. I was listing only the ones that are easily better. Some of their main problems are that Lugh joins pretty weak and has weak defenses, and Gonzales has some serious issues with hitting things.

You actually don't have to use him. He never has to attack or get attacked at all outside of the prologue. EDIT: Aww, beaten by a few seconds. Also, I've done it before.

Indeed. But Ike still wins that, with Sigurd a close second. Or the other way around. It's arguable. Ike having an earth affinity and 3 leadership stars and therefore making others pwn as well sells him for me. That and getting Ragnell halfway through or earlier this time around.

Indeed. But not with getting a few others to 10 as well. And you can also have her be the one getting fewer kills, leaving her at ~5 and instead getting Kent and Sain, and/or Erk, Lucius, Florina, Matthew, Dorcas to 10+. While Eliwood isn't wtfpwning a bunch of rubbish units like Lyn gets to do in her mode, he's still helping. You need all the help you can get in those early chapters.

Alan is h4x, too. And to a somewhat lesser extent, Percival, Miledy, and Dieck. And that about concludes the h4x characters. After that, there aren't many better than Echidna, and if they are, it probably isn't by much. Her spd is high enough that lol1 AS loss doesn't keep her from doubling. She's still faster than other doods with good spd like Alan or Dieck.

Whaaat... This looks rigged. Like someone with power is messing with the poll, keeping it tied for lulz.

Ike (FE10) Good atk, spd, def, and avo. Right from the start, he's extremely durable and has great offense, and he only gets better. Not being mounted isn't even bad since most of the mounts have pretty severe problems: horse units can't cross gaps, rivers, etc., and pegs get wtfpwned by bows. But he would be better if he were on a wyvern. Those things are OP'd. Anyway... Ike also makes whoever he supports with much more durable thanks to his earth affinity. And he also has 3 leadership stars, making him pwn even more.

for a completely different reason: Their transform guage drops when they get attacked. And yes, I do care. One of the reasons Reyson is so much better than the other two is that he doesn't fold after a single hit. He usually never gets attacked, but when I slip up, and an enemy gets to him, he stays alive. If my mage can take multiple attacks without kicking the bucket, I'm more able to attack with it on player phase since I don't have to keep it away from enemies, and I can cover ground faster. And counterattack damage/kill more enemies on enemy phase. By "problem", I mean something that makes for a great improvement if fixed, not something that renders the character unuseable.

That could be nice, given that the rules are specified before the debate begins and are not changed midway through.

The quotation marks is too much as it is...

Many things he doesn't need to double due to killing in one hit. With his prf axe, Nomad and most Cavaliers go down in one... magic doods and pegs die in one hit from a normal axe...

Her level shouldn't be higher.. (assuming you got S or something in lyn mode instead of boss-abusing). If it is, it's not by much. And it very well could be lower. She has twice as many chapters, but those chapters also have about a third as many enemies in them.

huge skl/spd + axes for offense full defense supports for defense Also being already promoted in a game where promotion items are scarce. She's not h4x like Lance or Rutger, but she's better than most.

It doesn't.

Merlinus is deployed in order to sell lots of items. Or if you want to use more weapons/items than everyone on the team can hold, which seems a bit unlikely to me. Or unlikely that you would want to use all those items badly enough that you would use a spot for Merlinus. Unless you're only using fewer than the unit limit in the first place.

If all the archers stay alive, you get an Orion's Bolt. If all the pegs stay alive, you get an Elysian Whip. something like that And yeah, 11A is hard to get everything in. Tate is especially annoying. She'll just sit up at the top of the map where I can't get to her, out of range. Maybe bringing Thany would have helped...

The reason to use Clarine is that her avoid quickly exceeds 9000. Or may as well be over nine thousand since nothing can hit her. Like literally can't hit (she often faces 0 hit rates).

They do on HHM. Failure defenses is crippling on a melee unit.

tie-breaker...!

Indeed. But the current discussion doesn't seem to be about that.

If no one's taking damage, you can always just make yourself take damage. Attack melee with your mages, go against the weapon triangle, don't use defensive terrain, etc.

You can get Serra to lv 11+ in Lyn mode while still getting S in tactics. It's not the easiest thing to do, though. She can at least get to 8-9 if you don't want to put in that much effort. That would put her at 10-11 (or 13...) by the time Priscilla joins. Enemy density is so low in Lyn mode that refreshing an attacker with Nils doesn't help you the vast majority of the time. You just end up with several your attackers sitting there with nothing to attack. Therefore, Nils should go to Serra most of the time. That way you get more exp for Serra at no cost to anyone else.

and a good one, too

hector hard mode: Geitz normal mode: Dorcas